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MQ2Bst

Plugin - MQ2Bst 3.1.52471.11

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Im obviously missing something, My group make up is now (after more playing about) 22 SK, 22 SHM, 21 BRD, 18 BER, 16 ROG, 16 BST

So while I was levelling up the BST / ROG I wasn't healing, I found this eventually (when it didnt matter so much) in the toggles, however now that I can group up, Ive found that I am constantly casting Strengthen on my pet / SK

What have I messed up? and can I resolve it :)

EDIT, found how to block spells, but think I may have blocked a wrong one, is there a way to find what buffs I have blocked? I should have disbanded the Shm to do it
 
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shawry said:
Im obviously missing something, My group make up is now (after more playing about) 22 SK, 22 SHM, 21 BRD, 18 BER, 16 ROG, 16 BST

So while I was levelling up the BST / ROG I wasn't healing, I found this eventually (when it didnt matter so much) in the toggles, however now that I can group up, Ive found that I am constantly casting Strengthen on my pet / SK

What have I messed up? and can I resolve it :)

EDIT, found how to block spells, but think I may have blocked a wrong one, is there a way to find what buffs I have blocked? I should have disbanded the Shm to do it
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you can check your blocked spells by the eq menu
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Ran into an interesting issue during a raid where two spells would get into an endless memorize/forget loop during a battle rez. The two spells "Panthea's Aggression" and "Korah's Mending" get into a loop of memorizing and forgetting each other on the same spell gem when rebuffing after a battle rez. I'm able to break the loop by temporarily enabling BYOS to allow a buff to complete casting and then unchecking BYOS for the plugin to continue as normal.
 
eqsubi15 said:
Ran into an interesting issue during a raid where two spells would get into an endless memorize/forget loop during a battle rez. The two spells "Panthea's Aggression" and "Korah's Mending" get into a loop of memorizing and forgetting each other on the same spell gem when rebuffing after a battle rez. I'm able to break the loop by temporarily enabling BYOS to allow a buff to complete casting and then unchecking BYOS for the plugin to continue as normal.
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i'll take a look.

also - i *strongly* recommend not using usemending - I can't possibly imagine you need to use mending at all while in a raid. you're likely hurting your raid by doing so
 
Sic said:
i'll take a look.

also - i *strongly* recommend not using usemending - I can't possibly imagine you need to use mending at all while in a raid. you're likely hurting your raid by doing so
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It's rare when I need to. Usually in cases where a bit of spot healing to help the group survive after our healer was just rez'd.
 
I have had an issue lately on raids. When my pet dies and I have combat summon checked my bstie goes into an endless loop of cycle trying to mem Pathea's Aggression and Vampyric Endemic. As soon as I turn off combat summon my bstie will start to dps again and stop trying to mem,
 
Irulann said:
I have had an issue lately on raids. When my pet dies and I have combat summon checked my bstie goes into an endless loop of cycle trying to mem Pathea's Aggression and Vampyric Endemic. As soon as I turn off combat summon my bstie will start to dps again and stop trying to mem,
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yep, it'll be in next update
 
New purchase here and read the FAQ's. However, current BST @lvl 120 is spaming Comrade's Unity. Both BST and pet are buffless and just cycles. Not sure what to make of it. Currently is a silver account and im not sure if that is it or not.

Any help is welcome.
 
Grpsmashin said:
New purchase here and read the FAQ's. However, current BST @lvl 120 is spaming Comrade's Unity. Both BST and pet are buffless and just cycles. Not sure what to make of it. Currently is a silver account and im not sure if that is it or not.

Any help is welcome.
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Update, i have blocked the spell from Comrade's Unity of "Unsurpassed Velocity Rk. II" This has stopped the spamming currently. Again not sure what it is trying to check for as the spell sticks and reads as Rk. II. Unless this has to do with the account being silver.
 
Grpsmashin said:
Update, i have blocked the spell from Comrade's Unity of "Unsurpassed Velocity Rk. II" This has stopped the spamming currently. Again not sure what it is trying to check for as the spell sticks and reads as Rk. II. Unless this has to do with the account being silver.
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This is because you went silver.

This is an eq issue where it doesn't cast the spell it says it does
you can go gold, buy the tank unlocker, or block the spells like you mentioned
 
Sic said:
This is because you went silver.

This is an eq issue where it doesn't cast the spell it says it does
you can go gold, buy the tank unlocker, or block the spells like you mentioned
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Ok cool. as i was looking at everything, i figured that was it. Thanks for the update.
 
What kind of burn cycle is built into MQ2Bst? Been noticing that in a group environment (SK, Brd, Mag, Bst, Clr, Ber), my burns are showing excellent DPS numbers 1m-1.5m. However, when on raids, it seems to drop into the 400k-700k. Normally, in a raid, my bst gets grouped with (Shm, Rng, Mnk, Brd, Rog/Ber). So, I'm sure there are ability/spell overlaps that are preventing maximizing DPS burns on a raid.

Difference on plugin settings I use between group vs raid is the following:

On raids:

1. Use Alliance is turned on
2. I turn off Paragon settings to manually control when I need to MGB Paragon.
3. I turn on Raid mode and set the MA on the drop down.
4. I turn off UseFocus, SOW, Snare, Feign.
5. I change the number of mobs to initiate burn from 5 to 15 so not to auto trigger burn cycle accidentally.
6. I turn off BurnAlways and BurnonNamed so I can manually control when to activate burn cycle.

Are there any plans in the future to help streamline this so group makeup would help maximize DPS on raids and not possibly hinder it?

Attached is a pretty nice write up on Bst burns. Just tossing in for aid.
 

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I do excellent on raids with MQ2BST burns. It might be as you say your comp. I have done great in bst/brd/shm/zerkx2 (rando class). Also done excellent in necx2, brd, shm (2x random).
 
eqsubi15 said:
What kind of burn cycle is built into MQ2Bst? Been noticing that in a group environment (SK, Brd, Mag, Bst, Clr, Ber), my burns are showing excellent DPS numbers 1m-1.5m. However, when on raids, it seems to drop into the 400k-700k. Normally, in a raid, my bst gets grouped with (Shm, Rng, Mnk, Brd, Rog/Ber). So, I'm sure there are ability/spell overlaps that are preventing maximizing DPS burns on a raid.

Difference on plugin settings I use between group vs raid is the following:

On raids:

1. Use Alliance is turned on
2. I turn off Paragon settings to manually control when I need to MGB Paragon.
3. I turn on Raid mode and set the MA on the drop down.
4. I turn off UseFocus, SOW, Snare, Feign.
5. I change the number of mobs to initiate burn from 5 to 15 so not to auto trigger burn cycle accidentally.
6. I turn off BurnAlways and BurnonNamed so I can manually control when to activate burn cycle.

Are there any plans in the future to help streamline this so group makeup would help maximize DPS on raids and not possibly hinder it?

Attached is a pretty nice write up on Bst burns. Just tossing in for aid.
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there is not a different routine for 1 (group) vs the other (raid). cwtn and i certainly understand how bst functions and works and are very satisfied with how it functions and works, and absolutely do not have any current plans on changing the burn routine. thanks for the 'how to beastlord' but really not something that we need.

re: any plans to streamline for your group makeup? no, bst is gonna bst as best it can. you didn't articulate anything specific things with what you think is overlapping, but it sounds like you are assuming some things that may or may not be true.

if you're not burning, then it can't do the tier'd burn routine that it offers, it is going to do non-burn stuff.

mq2bst does exceptionally well on raids, certainly not half or a quarter of group dps (fight dependant obv)
Here's a parse with all cwtn plugins, for example.
(this is obv dps and not sdps)
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zel
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goranga
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less gear'd raid force
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also, you didn't mention if you have usemending on or not - you're hurting yourself if you're keeping that memorized.

I've seen 400-600k raid parses from silver bsts - so my low-context thought is either a: it went silver and is using rk i stuff and/or f2p gear or b: it died and you never cleared MA to re-gain target to reassist, and their fight time was missing a bunch of the fight.

definitely make sure you have usebandoswap setup - a h2h/1h set and a 2h set - pref mnk/bst weapons so you can swap to 2h for vindi/composite etc.

Make sure you are maxing heroic dexterity
Make sure you're adding your chest to your burns unless you want to manually use it
Make sure you were adding your veil, your familiar, and your mount to add clickiesyour raid group is fine. Make sure s and bard have their 2.0s



I don't recommend using the 2.0, despite what your guide says.

if you have any *specific* things that you think could be improved, feel free to comment/post and they can be looked at, considered, and added/adjusted if needed - but your question is premised on your assertion to be factually correct - that mq2bst in a raid does half to quarter the dmg of in group setting (either do to routine or do to group overlap).

edit: added some parses
 
Sic said:
there is not a different routine for 1 (group) vs the other (raid). cwtn and i certainly understand how bst functions and works and are very satisfied with how it functions and works, and absolutely do not have any current plans on changing the burn routine. thanks for the 'how to beastlord' but really not something that we need.

re: any plans to streamline for your group makeup? no, bst is gonna bst as best it can. you didn't articulate anything specific things with what you think is overlapping, but it sounds like you are assuming some things that may or may not be true.

if you're not burning, then it can't do the tier'd burn routine that it offers, it is going to do non-burn stuff.

mq2bst does exceptionally well on raids, certainly not half or a quarter of group dps (fight dependant obv)
Here's a parse with all cwtn plugins, for example.
(this is obv dps and not sdps)
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zel
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goranga
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less gear'd raid force
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also, you didn't mention if you have usemending on or not - you're hurting yourself if you're keeping that memorized.

I've seen 400-600k raid parses from silver bsts - so my low-context thought is either a: it went silver and is using rk i stuff and/or f2p gear or b: it died and you never cleared MA to re-gain target to reassist, and their fight time was missing a bunch of the fight.

definitely make sure you have usebandoswap setup - a h2h/1h set and a 2h set - pref mnk/bst weapons so you can swap to 2h for vindi/composite etc.

Make sure you are maxing heroic dexterity
Make sure you're adding your chest to your burns unless you want to manually use it
Make sure you were adding your veil, your familiar, and your mount to add clickiesyour raid group is fine. Make sure s and bard have their 2.0s



I don't recommend using the 2.0, despite what your guide says.

if you have any *specific* things that you think could be improved, feel free to comment/post and they can be looked at, considered, and added/adjusted if needed - but your question is premised on your assertion to be factually correct - that mq2bst in a raid does half to quarter the dmg of in group setting (either do to routine or do to group overlap).

edit: added some parses
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Sorry, if anything in my original posting might of come off as insulting. That is not my intention at all.

My Bst is not a silver acct. Has max AA and is using mix of CoV/ToL raid gear. I do have bando swap enabled. I'm not using mending. Spells are a mix of RkII and RkIII. hDex is 3800ish.

I never added my BP clicky to the plugin, but usually click it manually. Is there a way to add it automatically?

Next raiding I do, I'll see if I can get some parses and screenshots of the plugin settings. Maybe I'm just missing something or have it setup incorrectly. I definitely would like to be dishing out some better dps like you are in your parses.

Thanks!

P.S.
What parsing plugin are you using for the breakdown of DPS, aDPS, average hit, etc.?
 
eqsubi15 said:
Sorry, if anything in my original posting might of come off as insulting. That is not my intention at all.

My Bst is not a silver acct. Has max AA and is using mix of CoV/ToL raid gear. I do have bando swap enabled. I'm not using mending. Spells are a mix of RkII and RkIII. hDex is 3800ish.

I never added my BP clicky to the plugin, but usually click it manually. Is there a way to add it automatically?

Next raiding I do, I'll see if I can get some parses and screenshots of the plugin settings. Maybe I'm just missing something or have it setup incorrectly. I definitely would like to be dishing out some better dps like you are in your parses.

Thanks!

P.S.
What parsing plugin are you using for the breakdown of DPS, aDPS, average hit, etc.?
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https://github.com/kauffman12/EQLogParser is handy.

If you're not using that, what are you parsing with?

If you're using dpsadv, I'd definitely suggest using a full depth parser like gamparse or eqlogparser, I prefer the second one.

I put the BP as addclicky for burn, and let the plugin burn - in your case I hope that means issuing burnnow on mobs you want to burn on.

Re insulting: I didn't think it was insulting, but it add layers to helping folks when we get "i don't know how it works it should do xyz here's a guide", because that has a lot of assumptions that prohibit conversation on things that are likely greater issue. Typed conversation also doesn't always translate super well either.
 
Not sure what's going on here, but after getting rezzed during Aten Ha Ra raid, seems my auto memming spells stops working. I see this in the MQ window, but the Bst plugin seems to work with attacking and cycling as normal with the spells that are on the gem bar.

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eqsubi15 said:
Not sure what's going on here, but after getting rezzed during Aten Ha Ra raid, seems my auto memming spells stops working. I see this in the MQ window, but the Bst plugin seems to work with attacking and cycling as normal with the spells that are on the gem bar.

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That is not from mq2bst
 
Sic said:
That is not from mq2bst
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Do you know what it might be that could cause that message and for Mq2Bst to stop memming the pre-defined spell lineup? I'm not using BYOS on MQ2Bst, but that seems to be the only thing affected when this occurs on a battle rez during that raid.
 
eqsubi15 said:
Do you know what it might be that could cause that message and for Mq2Bst to stop memming the pre-defined spell lineup? I'm not using BYOS on MQ2Bst, but that seems to be the only thing affected when this occurs on a battle rez during that raid.
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no...we cant tell what you are running....its from a macro or a lau I would think.
 
eqsubi15 said:
Do you know what it might be that could cause that message and for Mq2Bst to stop memming the pre-defined spell lineup? I'm not using BYOS on MQ2Bst, but that seems to be the only thing affected when this occurs on a battle rez during that raid.
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I don't, but can take a look this afternoon. Keep in mind to re-assist after a rez your ma needs to reacquire target.

You need combat memorization turned on to combat mem
 
Reviewed the log file and it seems the BAD events seemed to start upon dying during the Vex Thal Aten Ha Ra raid instance and stop after we won.

spam said:
[2022/11/18 20:31:45] [Nav] Successfully loaded mesh for vexthaltwo

[2022/11/18 20:47:54] BAD

[2022/11/18 20:48:39] BAD

[2022/11/18 20:49:25] BAD

[2022/11/18 20:50:11] BAD

[2022/11/18 20:50:58] BAD

[2022/11/18 20:51:50] BAD

[2022/11/18 20:52:35] BAD

[2022/11/18 20:52:57] [MQ2Rez]:: Received a no exp call to my corpse

[2022/11/18 20:52:57] [MQ2Rez]:: Accepting Rez

[2022/11/18 20:52:57] [MQ2Rez]:: Respawning

[2022/11/18 20:53:20] BAD

[2022/11/18 20:54:05] BAD

[2022/11/18 20:54:50] BAD

[2022/11/18 20:55:35] BAD

[2022/11/18 20:56:20] BAD

[2022/11/18 20:57:05] BAD

[2022/11/18 20:57:50] BAD

[2022/11/18 20:58:35] BAD

[2022/11/18 20:59:20] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:00:05] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:00:50] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:01:36] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:02:20] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:03:05] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:03:50] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:04:35] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:05:20] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:06:05] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:06:50] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:07:35] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:08:20] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:09:05] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:09:51] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:10:36] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:11:22] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:12:07] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:12:52] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:13:37] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:14:22] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:15:07] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:15:52] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:16:37] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:17:22] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:18:07] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:18:52] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:19:37] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:20:27] BAD

[2022/11/18 21:21:38] [MQ2Rez]:: Received a rez from xxxxx for 96 percent.

[2022/11/18 21:21:38] [MQ2Rez]:: Accepting Rez
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Some of the things I was trying to do to fix it mid-battle:
1. Switching modes (Manual, Chase, Assist, Vorpal)
2. manually un-scribed a spell. No change. It was acting like MQ2Bst was paused or BYOS was turned on (which it wasn't).
3. When turning on auto-attack, MQ2Bst battle functions will continue as normal (pet engaged, toon would auto-path to the main assist's target, and cycle combat abilities and spells that were scribed)
4. Unchecking/rechecking BYOS didn't do anything.
5. Checking/unchecking combatsummonpet didn't do anything. (I actually manually summoned pet this time since I didn't want the spell mem loop to happen again like last time. I didn't know it was just recently fixed though)

When raiding on my Beastlord, I only use MQ and MQ2Bst and I tend to leave it in manual mode to control movement. There are no other plugins, macros, or Lua scripts. I have seen during the Aten Ha Ra raid, if my toon gets called for the AE silence, he'll automatically run to the door away from the raid. I don't think that was the issue for this though as I didn't get called a single time.

If there is anything else I can provide to help track down the possible source of the issue, let me know.

Thanks!
 
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eqsubi15 said:
Reviewed the log file and it seems the BAD events seemed to start upon dying during the Vex Thal Aten Ha Ra raid instance and stop after we won.




Some of the things I was trying to do to fix it mid-battle:
1. Switching modes (Manual, Chase, Assist, Vorpal)
2. manually un-scribed a spell. No change. It was acting like MQ2Bst was paused or BYOS was turned on (which it wasn't).
3. When turning on auto-attack, MQ2Bst battle functions will continue as normal (pet engaged, toon would auto-path to the main assist's target, and cycle combat abilities and spells that were scribed)
4. Unchecking/rechecking BYOS didn't do anything.
5. Checking/unchecking combatsummonpet didn't do anything. (I actually manually summoned pet this time since I didn't want the spell mem loop to happen again like last time. I didn't know it was just recently fixed though)

When raiding on my Beastlord, I only use MQ and MQ2Bst and I tend to leave it in manual mode to control movement. There are no other plugins, macros, or Lua scripts. I have seen during the Aten Ha Ra raid, if my toon gets called for the AE silence, he'll automatically run to the door away from the raid. I don't think that was the issue for this though as I didn't get called a single time.

If there is anything else I can provide to help track down the possible source of the issue, let me know.

Thanks!
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nope, but like i said i'll look at combat mem, but no, that isn't mq2bst doing the BAD - and we don't run to the door for any reason either, so you definitely have other stuff happening
 
eqsubi15 said:
Reviewed the log file and it seems the BAD events seemed to start upon dying during the Vex Thal Aten Ha Ra raid instance and stop after we won.




Some of the things I was trying to do to fix it mid-battle:
1. Switching modes (Manual, Chase, Assist, Vorpal)
2. manually un-scribed a spell. No change. It was acting like MQ2Bst was paused or BYOS was turned on (which it wasn't).
3. When turning on auto-attack, MQ2Bst battle functions will continue as normal (pet engaged, toon would auto-path to the main assist's target, and cycle combat abilities and spells that were scribed)
4. Unchecking/rechecking BYOS didn't do anything.
5. Checking/unchecking combatsummonpet didn't do anything. (I actually manually summoned pet this time since I didn't want the spell mem loop to happen again like last time. I didn't know it was just recently fixed though)

When raiding on my Beastlord, I only use MQ and MQ2Bst and I tend to leave it in manual mode to control movement. There are no other plugins, macros, or Lua scripts. I have seen during the Aten Ha Ra raid, if my toon gets called for the AE silence, he'll automatically run to the door away from the raid. I don't think that was the issue for this though as I didn't get called a single time.

If there is anything else I can provide to help track down the possible source of the issue, let me know.

Thanks!
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do you have a LAU running or a LEM running?
 
It is prolly the movement LEM/Lua for the event erroring out when dead (so printing BAD as it tries to recover), and maybe? stomping all over MQ2BST as it tries to do its job? so not BST issue (would be my WAG).
 
Sic said:
nope, but like i said i'll look at combat mem, but no, that isn't mq2bst doing the BAD - and we don't run to the door for any reason either, so you definitely have other stuff happening
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I don't use Lua at all. Never installed it. Only thing else I can think of is maybe MQ2Events. I installed that a long time ago for Kael group mission. I haven't ran it since though. Would that auto load?
 
eqsubi15 said:
I don't use LUA at all. Never installed it. Only thing else I can think of is maybe MQ2Events. I installed that a long time ago for Kael group mission. I haven't ran it since though. Would that auto load?
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You said earlier that your toon "automatically runs" when called out for the AHR emote. You def have something running whether you know it or not. But it's def not MQ2Bst because A) you have output going to the MQ window and not the MQ2Bst output window and B) none of the CWTN plugins output "BAD" for anything, as Sic has already pointed out.
 
combatmemorization appears to be working here as expected - which doesn't mean it is, it just means "the circumstances i tested to replicate what you're saying are working as intended and expected which leads me to believe you have some other issue":

re: byos - you would still do combatmem if you have a byos custom set
mode has 0 influence on this other than what would be memorized (like if in a tanking mode or assigned tank for example)

you would combat memorize as long as:

you have combatmem turne don
you either a: have a camp or b: are not invis
you will summon a pet if you don't have a pet
you will then buff and replace your gems afterwards.

I would make sure you didn't have a familiar out - if you already have a pet, we're not going to summon one, and we can't buff it with buffs either

eq has a built-in "dismiss familiar" option, make sure to utilize that

re: BAD - again this is not a cwtn plugin thing and/or specifically an mq2bst thing - and i can't find it in any plugins or mq as a whole - which leads me to believe you are using an mq2event, a react, an LEM, or some other means of "automatically running" somewhere, and that is where your BAD is coming from

re: no other plugins - an avg user likely had 30-50 total plugins running at any given time
 
Hey guys,

Just wanted to make note of a buffing issue where the BL will continue to cast Spirit of Tala'Tak during when not in combat when characters have Spirit of the Falcons is up. I have a BL /Druid combo with the Druid using RG Merc.

While reading through the comments i see where Sic mentioned adding a spell to the blocked spell list which seems to work fine so far. The druid doesn't seem to be spamming SotF with this setup.
 
Eridor said:
Hey guys,

Just wanted to make note of a buffing issue where the BL will continue to cast Spirit of Tala'Tak during when not in combat when characters have Spirit of the Falcons is up. I have a BL /Druid combo with the Druid using RG Merc.

While reading through the comments i see where Sic mentioned adding a spell to the blocked spell list which seems to work fine so far. The druid doesn't seem to be spamming SotF with this setup.
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Yup, you (kinda?) msgd me about this being a new thing, unfortunately it isn't a new thing, and isn't anything that needs to have a note for, because it is a know thing as we discussed.

This is one of those buffs that has conflicts in mq/eq. I sincerely don't recommend using levitation of any kind while automating - but if you don't want mq2bst doing sow line, you can turn it off with usesow or block what spell you don't want
 
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