Plugin - MQ2Shaman (1 Viewer) 3.1.52471.11

[Sic]

Thanks. I will have to delete that spell then.

the useslow and useaoeslow are specifically meant for the AAs - I'm going to likely just take out the aoe slow from the spell list - the shm slow lines are a bit weird, so for the time being i'll likely just remove tigir's and plague

 

[Chain]

Question.
What setting/configuration must the shaman have its properties at to be full DPS.
I am struggling to get dots to land. Heals great but DPS not so much. Im using cleric plugin in group.
Thanks for the help/advice.

 

[Robban]

Question.
What setting/configuration must the shaman have its properties at to be full DPS.
I am struggling to get dots to land. Heals great but DPS not so much. Im using cleric plugin in group.
Thanks for the help/advice.

quick look in the commands

Combat Assist - MQ2Shaman - Extra info

www.redguides.com

Stances:
/shm stance - 0, 1, 2 - healing, hybrid, dps

 

[Chain]

As per a private conversation:

“Yes. Correct. I am in DPS mode (stance); spell set changes but dots aren’t casted. I’m not a fast kill mob person either. I’m group geared paladin, cleric and shaman with 3 rogue mercs.
So I was wondering what settings under numerical values needed to be changed to lessen healing and more dots.”
Aka: Most heals come from cleric and manually played Paladin and DPS toon/heal in pinch shaman.
Thanks!

 

[ABDon]

Not sure if something has changed, but lately it feels like Direct Heals are at the bottom of the pile for priority (Shaman has let my tank die needlessly quite a few times over the last couple of days)

Things I'm witnessing are refreshing Ennui / Growth / Renewal mid fight, despite health being dangerously low, same goes for casting Bite / Venin / Roar.

Often I'll Flash and hope a direct heal comes in time after it's finished faffing with buffs, only for it then to just try and fire Gift / Squall and I'm dead before that lands.

Here's my settings and loadout



Example today: Tanking a named
[Sun Dec 27 14:46:40 2020] The Captain of The Guard tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sun Dec 27 14:47:01 2020] You have been knocked unconscious!
[Sun Dec 27 14:47:01 2020] You have been slain by The Captain of The Guard!

In that 21 seconds, Shaman expected me to survive with one 1 direct heal (spent the rest of the time slowing, casting Venin, Bite, Renewal, Chucked a Primordial cause it let me get low doing those, then Roar, Ennui, Growth) then it tried to Squall after all that, while I was languishing at 20%, game over.



Should there be some logic to put buffs/dps on the backburner if tank is below a certain threshold? especially in Heal mode (cause if there is, I think something broke)

p.s. I've tried a BYOS and knocking the dot and nuke out, but it's still prioritising Ennui/Growth/Renewal/Roar over a heal

 

[Sic]

I would double check you're using the file in a couple posts above - where I said some stuff was broken and i fixed it.

Sounds like you didn't

 

[ABDon]

I would double check you're using the file in a couple posts above - where I said some stuff was broken and i fixed it.

Sounds like you didn't

I did download that and overwrote the "old" one

 

[Sic]

Dunno then - sounds like perhaps you didn't have your tank set to ma?

re: the "perhaps it should check" - it literally checks all of that stuff before it goes to check buffs, or slow, or dps section. these checks happen faster than you can count, so its not like its just "not doing it" this time.

I definitely don't have issues like that, so its hard for me to comment as to why yours would be that way.

 

[ABDon]

Tank set as MA/MT always

It's not doing this all the time, but each time it does I check the parses and it's obvious that the Shaman goofed spectacularly in the same way (running its dps/buffs while the tank dies a slow death)

It's not like my tank takes such a beating it can't keep up on those occasions.... 20 seconds is a long time to slack on heals

 

[Sic]

I'm not sure how to answer you.

I tossed in some debugs and ran a few fights so you can see just how frequently we check for stuff.

Now of course these debugs aren't spitting out all what is happening in the subs - just some of the sub calls.
This is also not an extensive list of everything happening in the heal check - just some of the sub calls
And this, of course, doesn't spit out any of the buffs, slow/debuff or dps checks (which happen after the heal cycle makes its check)
So where it says "checking entire group for blah" its checking each group member for whatever

The debug messages are hastily written and aren't the point i'm trying to make, look at the time stamps - this is just a few of the debug statements from a small fraction of what mq2shaman is doing. but the heals are checked before anything else.

 

[ABDon]

That's cool, but what I'm experiencing is happening, confirmed with logs. I've literally watched it do it when tabbing over after tank is dead and a Mage pet has picked up the slack... it let that die too while it cast non-heals.

These aren't soft targets either, a 600k+ 11kac buffed Warrior and EM27 Mage pet... so we're not talking about getting one rounded

Is it possible you don't notice the blips cause your tank is an SK and his plugin fills the gap with taps etc?

 

[Sic]

That's cool, but what I'm experiencing is happening, confirmed with logs. I've literally watched it do it when tabbing over after tank is dead and a Mage pet has picked up the slack... it let that die too while it cast non-heals.

These aren't soft targets either, a 600k+ 11kac buffed Warrior and EM27 Mage pet... so we're not talking about getting one rounded

Is it possible you don't notice the blips cause your tank is an SK and his plugin fills the gap with taps etc?

well if its already in the middle of casting a spell it doesn't stop if you get hit, but no, like I said it literally checks these things many times a second. saying it just does other stuff for 20 seconds - i have no idea how to answer that.

so again, I'm not sure how to answer your question

re: the sk - I can literally just have the sk stand there and do nothing and the shm will keep healing as its supposed to - i actually accidentally do that frequently when i forget to resetcamp or turn on attack.

I've sat here all afternoon and gone through everything several times and tried to recreate what you're saying and i can't replicate it.

like i've said a few times - I'm just simply not sure how to answer your quesiton - this doesn't mean i don't care, or haven't just spend my afternoon on it - i just don't have an answer for you.

As always I would double-check you don't have your boxes on min background fps - because if you do (or have other frame limiting happening) that will make eq skip "doing stuff". of if you're lagging / poor server response.

 

[Hylander]

ABWar,

what fights or where is this behaviour happening ? is your healer getting silenced / stunned ?

I have SHM + WAR in my group, and i can see the healing happening.
I run MQ2Shaman and MQ2Cleric. The results below are in DPS stance.
Row 1 is total, Row 2 is cleric, Row 3 is shaman. Most healed is MA/MT.
Shaman is delivering circa 50% of the healing.




What i don't understand about all this stuff above, is that these plugins work, out of the can. Set the parameters (MA/MT) and they do their job.

 

[ABDon]

It's not an FPS issue, they are all set to max and I use eqwire

It's not a silence or stun issue either, it just occasionally does other things when it should be healing, the issue I'm seeing is as straight forward as that.

The vast majority of the time, it's spot on perfect.... it's only happened 3 times over this weekend, which isn't much considering the amount of play time, but it's enough to irritate me dying to one mob.

I love these plugins, I really do, I've used 4 other paid ones every day for quite some time. So believe me when I say I'm not criticizing, I'm just feeding back my experiences with this one

 

[Sic]

It's not an FPS issue, they are all set to max and I use eqwire

It's not a silence or stun issue either, it just occasionally does other things when it should be healing, the issue I'm seeing is as straight forward as that.

The vast majority of the time, it's spot on perfect.... it's only happened 3 times over this weekend, which isn't much considering the amount of play time, but it's enough to irritate me dying to one mob.

I love these plugins, I really do, I've used 4 other paid ones every day for quite some time. So believe me when I say I'm not criticizing, I'm just feeding back my experiences with this one

I getcha - and again Its not that i don't care or don't believe you or somesuch - but its just that i can't replicate it and don't know how to replicate it because of how it is designed (where its checking every x before it moves on to y repeatedly) - it does all the checks when its needed in the same way every time.

3 times over the course of the weekend? - it sounded like you were talking about a quite frequent issue all the time maximum no heals

Not sure if something has changed, but lately it feels like Direct Heals are at the bottom of the pile for priority (Shaman has let my tank die needlessly quite a few times over the last couple of days)

re: not an fps issue - if you have max backgroundfps set to min and you're trying to use automation in the background, yes 100% is an issue and you can and will have situations like you're describing.

I'll of course keep an eye on it so hopefully it was just something unusual and not a regular thing

 

[burdsjm]

Not sure if he’s having the same issue I had this weekend but jumping in and out of hunter raids did the same thing for me. The raid mode to group mode seem to stall it. I had to reload the plugin to make it play right.

 

[Sic]

shrug i dunno - thats not how any of the cwtn plugins work.

and if that *was* broken, it would break all of the plugins as all the state management/checks is part of the library

 

[burdsjm]

shrug i dunno - thats not how any of the cwtn plugins work.

and if that *was* broken, it would break all of the plugins as all the state management/checks is part of the library

sorry can’t reproduce it either.

 

[Mogs]

How can I block AA from being used, My sham is in an endless loop of the AA Lupine Spirit IV casting on my Tank

 

[burdsjm]

How can I block AA from being used, My sham is in an endless loop of the AA Lupine Spirit IV casting on my Tank

Uncheck usesow

 

[Sic]

How can I block AA from being used, My sham is in an endless loop of the AA Lupine Spirit IV casting on my Tank

this is likely fixed in next update.

it turns out lupine spirit is like 1 of 5/6 abilities in-game that is target type 51, and it uses aerange instead of range --- so currently we have it casting lupine spirit if your target is within 100, when it should be 50.

likely resolved next update.

outside that - we already check for stacking, and blocked buffs

 

[SomeTester]

I notice my shaman casts Unity of the Kromif A LOT. is there a short term buff or something that is overwriting this on my other toons so the shaman recasts it?

 

[K9carter]

Hi,
i just started suing this, and it amzaing, so amazing, I purchased mq2bst too
I was wondering if it is configured to cast AA Spirit Guardian?
I cant seem to find it.
Thanks

 

[Sic]

Hi,
i just started suing this, and it amzaing, so amazing, I purchased mq2bst too
I was wondering if it is configured to cast AA Spirit Guardian?
I cant seem to find it.
Thanks

yes

update: but there appears to be an issue on the stacking check, but i have a fix!

wonder what's different because it *was* working, but clearly now not. the stacking check was saying it wouldn't stack even with 0 buffs lmao.

oh well, will be in next update

 

[ABDon]

I notice my shaman casts Unity of the Kromif A LOT. is there a short term buff or something that is overwriting this on my other toons so the shaman recasts it?

Got a Mage in group? their Aura overwrites the Mammoth portion of that buff on their and all other pets near it (solution: block mammoth on pets)

 

[Gibevad]

first off love the plugin i do have a situation and im not sure how to resolve it. my group is warrior shaman bard cleric mage and zerker that said my bard is my driver toon i have him set as main assist and puller while im pulling i frequently am having a problem with mobs being pulled while im pacifying or fading aggro while splitting i have retort turned off on the cleric as i know it will pull mobs i have targeted and for the longest time i could not figure out what was doing it finally i was able to scroll back and see that the shaman is casting restoring counterbias on me which hits the mob i have targeted and also slows the mob and thus puling my target weather im ready or not. i have reviewed the video again and searched through my options on the SHM interface and i can not figure out how to keep him from casting it. its likely im over looking something but any help would be appreciated as this is frequently getting my group or more over my shammy killed, thanks all

 

[Sic]

first off love the plugin i do have a situation and im not sure how to resolve it. my group is warrior shaman bard cleric mage and zerker that said my bard is my driver toon i have him set as main assist and puller while im pulling i frequently am having a problem with mobs being pulled while im pacifying or fading aggro while splitting i have retort turned off on the cleric as i know it will pull mobs i have targeted and for the longest time i could not figure out what was doing it finally i was able to scroll back and see that the shaman is casting restoring counterbias on me which hits the mob i have targeted and also slows the mob and thus puling my target weather im ready or not. i have reviewed the video again and searched through my options on the SHM interface and i can not figure out how to keep him from casting it. its likely im over looking something but any help would be appreciated as this is frequently getting my group or more over my shammy killed, thanks all

howdy Gibevad, happy new year.
yeah definitely not your fault or anything you missed.
it is something that is already patched for next VV build - will only counterbias if you have xtarget mobs - in the same way we dont invervention if you don't have xtarget mobs with mq2cleric. was just a mistake on my part.

 

[Gibevad]

howdy Gibevad, happy new year.
yeah definitely not your fault or anything you missed.
it is something that is already patched for next VV build - will only counterbias if you have xtarget mobs - in the same way we dont invervention if you don't have xtarget mobs with mq2cleric. was just a mistake on my part.

no worries its only slightly annoying at this lvl my tank can easily tank three or four in the time it takes me to aoe mez thanks for the reply and its a wonderful plugin as with the rest of the plugins i have to say not messing with inis is awesome thank for all of you and your teams hard work and keep it up! happy new year

 

[Many_Whelps]

my bard is my driver toon i have him set as main assist

Maybe not related to your issue, but having the bard as MA is generally *not* what you want to do. MA should really be on the tank. If you're using CWTN plugins for healing, they have separate heal points for the MA and notMA. If your tank is not the MA, he's getting healed at the lower heal points. With a zerk in the group, you're going to want that notMA heal point to be lower than the zerk HP cap. But that is not at all good for your tank. Old content may not be a problem, but once you get to current stuff, you'll def want the tank to be healed at ~95% while everyone else gets healed somewhere in the 60-80%s.

 

[Gibevad]

Maybe not related to your issue, but having the bard as MA is generally *not* what you want to do. MA should really be on the tank. If you're using CWTN plugins for healing, they have separate heal points for the MA and notMA. If your tank is not the MA, he's getting healed at the lower heal points. With a zerk in the group, you're going to want that notMA heal point to be lower than the zerk HP cap. But that is not at all good for your tank. Old content may not be a problem, but once you get to current stuff, you'll def want the tank to be healed at ~95% while everyone else gets healed somewhere in the 60-80%s.

so when i make the tank the MA when i pull a mob and start the fight none of my toons do anything they only start fighting when i am the ma (i play the bard) same thing happens if i die before the mob get down to 99% (which is rare) they just stand there unless i switch to the tank and start her fighting

 

[Gibevad]

so when i make the tank the MA when i pull a mob and start the fight none of my toons do anything they only start fighting when i am the ma (i play the bard) same thing happens if i die before the mob get down to 99% (which is rare) they just stand there unless i switch to the tank and start her fighting

it all makes since what your saying my warrior takes an a$$ wiping all the time and barely makes it through boss fights but im not sure how to play my bard and still make the warrior mt unless im in tank mode which is ok but im doing HAs to xp and am constantly moving

 

[Gibevad]

i tried making the tank MA in tank mode during a boss fight and the heling was night and day from me being MA in vorpal mode is there a way to make the tank MA in vorpal mode while i still play the bard?

 

[jonnygymnic]

I am working on leveling some new twinks, I have shaman setup on xtarget buffing / healing. I noticed it doesn't use squall at all. Is that intended? anyway to have it squall with or with out gift?

 

[Sic]

i tried making the tank MA in tank mode during a boss fight and the heling was night and day from me being MA in vorpal mode is there a way to make the tank MA in vorpal mode while i still play the bard?

vorpal is an assist mode - not a tank mode. if you want the tank to pick targets and "ma" then he should be in a tank mode, mode 4, 5, 7, or 8.

now if he's assigned as main tank in the group window he'll still do tanking stuff, but would need to be MA to do MA stuff, and in a tank mode to pick targets for the team.

 

[Sic]

I am working on leveling some new twinks, I have shaman setup on xtarget buffing / healing. I noticed it doesn't use squall at all. Is that intended? anyway to have it squall with or with out gift?

it doesn't use squall on out of group xtarget healing

 

[SomeTester]

Got a Mage in group? their Aura overwrites the Mammoth portion of that buff on their and all other pets near it (solution: block mammoth on pets)

Bingo. You get done redcents

 

[Many_Whelps]

i tried making the tank MA in tank mode during a boss fight and the heling was night and day from me being MA in vorpal mode is there a way to make the tank MA in vorpal mode while i still play the bard?

set you tank char in mode 4 and give him the group MA and MT roles. Set your camp radius to something like ~35-45. Pull mobs to him and he should jump on them as soon as they get within range.

 

[Gibevad]

vorpal is an assist mode - not a tank mode. if you want the tank to pick targets and "ma" then he should be in a tank mode, mode 4, 5, 7, or 8.

now if he's assigned as main tank in the group window he'll still do tanking stuff, but would need to be MA to do MA stuff, and in a tank mode to pick targets for the team.
[/QUOTso i will need

 

[Gibevad]

I made hot buttons form camps on and off and everything works like a charm

 

[darkomen42]

Any solutions to keeping the shaman from getting stuck in the spell book constantly? It's happening at least a couple times an hour.