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Plugin - MQ2Mage (1 Viewer) 3.1.52471.11

Soon as I get home I'll go take it for a spin with some combat
oh definitely don't go out of your way if you weren't doing that. i just wanted to hear "still doing it" or "fix'd" so feel free to hollar when you notice something

<3
 
oh definitely don't go out of your way if you weren't doing that. i just wanted to hear "still doing it" or "fix'd" so feel free to hollar when you notice something

<3
Not out of my way at all, I'm very excited to try it out. I've been working on Tradeskilks since your update so have not had any combat time. As for the moment, I'm just not home...out looking at a home to hopefully buy, wheee.
 
I can take a look
Hello Sic, Question to this topic. Is there a way that you can verify the XTargetBuffing on the plugin? i have 3 characters on XTARGT 2,3, and 4. it will buff XTARGET2 but not 3 and 4. If i switch the toons around it seems it just will buff the first PC on the xtarget window. Just asking if there is a way of course when you get a chance to check on this since u added the XTARGET buffing option to the magician. Thanks
 
Hello Sic, Question to this topic. Is there a way that you can verify the XTargetBuffing on the plugin? i have 3 characters on XTARGT 2,3, and 4. it will buff XTARGET2 but not 3 and 4. If i switch the toons around it seems it just will buff the first PC on the xtarget window. Just asking if there is a way of course when you get a chance to check on this since u added the XTARGET buffing option to the magician. Thanks
yes, it works.

can confirm it does xtarget buffing as intended.

it checks all your xtarget slots. (and i stopped what i was doing to test all of them just for you) :p

the plugins all use the same function for xtarget buffing, mage doesn't have its own special xtarget buffing code. and the only thing we use for group/xtarget buffing is damage shield

but you also didn't say what specifically >>> CWTN How to request help <<<

because i'd wager that what you're thinking you are going to buff isn't something that is going to be used. like damage shield which we buff on tank classes. and your xtarget slot 2 is a tank, but 3 and 4 is not
 
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yes, it works.

can confirm it does xtarget buffing as intended.

it checks all your xtarget slots. (and i stopped what i was doing to test all of them just for you) :p

the plugins all use the same function for xtarget buffing, mage doesn't have its own special xtarget buffing code. and the only thing we use for group/xtarget buffing is damage shield

but you also didn't say what specifically >>> CWTN How to request help <<<

because i'd wager that what you're thinking you are going to buff isn't something that is going to be used. like damage shield which we buff on tank classes. and your xtarget slot 2 is a tank, but 3 and 4 is not
okay thanks then in that respect it does make sense. it does buff my tank which is probably why when i move the tank to 3 or 4 it doesnt buff him because he alrady has it on him. I didnt relaize that it just buffs the tank class with the DS. thanks for the clarification
 
okay thanks then in that respect it does make sense. it does buff my tank which is probably why when i move the tank to 3 or 4 it doesnt buff him because he alrady has it on him. I didnt relaize that it just buffs the tank class with the DS. thanks for the clarification
so as a follow-up on the "asking for help" thing

if you said

I'm trying to usextargetbuffing and i have a warrior, wizard, a blacksmith, and a bugbear rogue in my 1, 2, 3, and 4 xtarget slots, and i'm trying to get the damage shield on them.

I would have been able to answer with a "well we only do damage shields on tanks" instead of the time doing what you asked, which is verify every xtarget slot and all the xtargetbuffing in mage :p
 
@Cannonballdex @Redfrog happy friday ya'll

can you let me know if you still run into an issue.

what *should* happen is summoned item stuck on cursor, but we do the autoinventory like we would if something random ended up on cursor, instead of instantly autoinventorying it like we *try* when we have a summoned item we just summoned - where we do the countdown and autoinventory it.
@Sic Hi hi, ok I tried it out, still the same for my issue. I rebooted the computer just to make sure I'd clear out other issues. I may have forgotten this, or forgotten I've ever mentioned it..😄 but I want to mention it just case...
Normally mage casts the weapons pack and it goes into a bag, then he unpacks it and you can see the summoned items on the cursor, bag, then swords. Empty summoned bag goes into another bag,, then the extra swords. He gives out the swords to pets.
When I die (hover timer runs out and he zones to bind) he does his routine, but gets stuck after the unpacking of the summoned pack. The error in normal EQ window is no empty slots available. I cannot manually drop the weapons bag into another bag as its a bag full of swords. He gets stuck doing that endlessly, so no combat or anything happens.
I keep all main bag slots full, but always have room for all the summoned swords and empty bag. It normally is fine.
It happens on other mages of lower levels also (that summon weapon packs).
 
@Sic Hi hi, ok I tried it out, still the same for my issue. I rebooted the computer just to make sure I'd clear out other issues. I may have forgotten this, or forgotten I've ever mentioned it..😄 but I want to mention it just case...
Normally mage casts the weapons pack and it goes into a bag, then he unpacks it and you can see the summoned items on the cursor, bag, then swords. Empty summoned bag goes into another bag,, then the extra swords. He gives out the swords to pets.
When I die (hover timer runs out and he zones to bind) he does his routine, but gets stuck after the unpacking of the summoned pack. The error in normal EQ window is no empty slots available. I cannot manually drop the weapons bag into another bag as its a bag full of swords. He gets stuck doing that endlessly, so no combat or anything happens.
I keep all main bag slots full, but always have room for all the summoned swords and empty bag. It normally is fine.
It happens on other mages of lower levels also (that summon weapon packs).
the error in the normal eq window means we're cycling bags trying to place the item - we also use autoinventory.

you should 100% use 10(12 if perks) bags, as long as you have bag slots to place items, we will try and place them in your bags.

the additional autoinventory check that i added was specifically so if something ended up on your cursor in between us trying to do stuff, we would still autoinventory it in 15 seconds.

I sincerely hope you didn't turn off autodrop.

you also definitely didn't mention the above that you said.

are you dying while trying to hand stuff out and getting bugged?

why are you dying and hover time running out?

I can't replicate this during regular normal usage even if i'm using an enchanter charming mobs and handing out pet weapons all day
 
the error in the normal eq window means we're cycling bags trying to place the item - we also use autoinventory.

you should 100% use 10(12 if perks) bags, as long as you have bag slots to place items, we will try and place them in your bags.

the additional autoinventory check that i added was specifically so if something ended up on your cursor in between us trying to do stuff, we would still autoinventory it in 15 seconds.

I sincerely hope you didn't turn off autodrop.

you also definitely didn't mention the above that you said.

are you dying while trying to hand stuff out and getting bugged?

why are you dying and hover time running out?

I can't replicate this during regular normal usage even if i'm using an enchanter charming mobs and handing out pet weapons all day
Autoinventory works fine, stuff drops in when looting etc., just to help clarify what is autodrop?
No, not dying while handing out items, dying just cause I get unlucky or Leeroy Jenkins stuff. Plus kids and grandson...hey hey look at this drawing of the dog making a poo...umm, good color I guess, well damn I died..
then I wipe or some nonsense, and I dont get back in time for rez or I let them go to bind to get back together easier.

I never thought of just restarting the plugin...this happened, it reset which is nice:
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Upon the problem happening I would just turn pet weapons off and not even worry. unloading and reloading the plugin might be fine too... for the sake of wanting to provide you some info I noticed in the screenie above that the first 4 lines of red show the ultra spam after the death and getting stuck...
Then you see I have to delete the Pouch of Quellios (a full bag of swords and unsure why it gets stuck). Here is where I /mag UsePetWeapons Off and just continue to play. But upon being a smarticle I reloaded the plugin and got the following Yellow lines in addition to the red lines. See it still says you have no room, etc. But it works..and empty pouch of Quellious and extra swords all in my 40 slot bag. Pet was equipped.
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A little odd.
Just proving the info, I wish I had another computer to test it on. I have a house bid in (yes please wish me luck), hopefully I'll have another computer again soon and I can test it there. :)
 
Thx for the infos, I wish you super good luck on the house! May your dog poo pictures bring you good luck!

When you get a chance, can you tell me about your bags, that does not fit message looks suspect
 
If you die with a full bag of stuff on your cursor it's not going to autodrop as a single item unless you have an open main slot.
 
If you die with a full bag of stuff on your cursor it's not going to autodrop as a single item unless you have an open main slot.
yup, I definitely understand that you can't autodrop a full packed bag. my response was to the information that i had.

dying with a full bag on your cursor is a problem.

it should also be something that doesn't happen regularly, and if it is, then it might be worthwhile not doing stuff where you're juggling bowling ball pins and killing and surviving instead =p
 
I have two questions, but first, thanks so much! I'm having a total blast with this. I thought I'd come back and see how EQ was doing after something like 20 years and now I'm not sure if I'm having more fun with the game or playing with all these tools you've provided / tweaking my setups.

Question One: I added the MQ2Mage plugin last night, I'm having fun with it, but I don't have the settings panel. I watched the video and I may have missed it, but I didn't notice a command to bring it up, other than the one used to launch the plugin, which doesn't launch the settings interface. Using the PluginManager to start the plugin doesn't launch the interface either. How do I get access to all the check boxes of fun?

Question Two: What happens with the kissassist_charname.ini file when the plugin runs? Before I added the MQ2Mage cwtn plugin I was just editing the ini with my own settings. I'm still running Kissassist, but now launching the MQ2Mage plugin after and I'm ignoring the ini file because the plugin seems to have the behaviour handled. Is that correct?
 
I have two questions, but first, thanks so much! I'm having a total blast with this. I thought I'd come back and see how EQ was doing after something like 20 years and now I'm not sure if I'm having more fun with the game ore playing with all these tools you've provided / tweaking my setups.

Question One: I added the MQ2Mage plugin last night, I'm having fun with it, but I don't have the settings panel. I watched the video and I may have missed it, but I didn't notice a command to bring it up, other than the one used to launch the plugin, which doesn't launch the settings interface. Using the PluginManager to start the plugin doesn't launch the interface either. How do I get access to all the check boxes of fun?

Question Two: What happens with the kissassist_charname.ini file when the plugin runs? Before I added the MQ2Mage cwtn plugin I was just editing the ini with my own settings. I'm still running Kissassist, but now launching the MQ2Mage plugin after and I'm ignoring the ini file because the plugin seems to have the behaviour handled. Is that correct?
Welcome back to EQ and RG Dracoda! we're lucky to have you

and from CWTN and myself, thanks for checking out our stuff, we appreciate it sincerely <3

Please see >>> Getting Started with CWTN plugins! (Movement, UI Window, Clickies, Pulling, ETC) Check Here First! <<<

1: please check the link above, it is in a video, and in the commands page and FAQ of each resource. The UI vid is the first thing suggested there. that'll get you right.
2: you don't use kissassist with any of the cwtn plugins. you should /end and not run conflicting automations together as they would be fighting trying to do things. you absolutely will have a bad time if you try and run something else that is going to do opposite of what mq2mage is trying to do
3: please make sure to post in the correct location. mq2mage has a discussion thread
 
Please see >>> Getting Started with CWTN plugins! (Movement, UI Window, Clickies, Pulling, ETC) Check Here First! <<<

1: please check the link above, it is in a video, and in the commands page and FAQ of each resource. The UI vid is the first thing suggested there. that'll get you right.
2: you don't use kissassist with any of the cwtn plugins. you should /end and not run conflicting automations together as they would be fighting trying to do things. you absolutely will have a bad time if you try and run something else that is going to do opposite of what mq2mage is trying to do
3: please make sure to post in the correct location. mq2mage has a discussion thread
Thank you! That was extremely fast and sorry for missing that info, there's a LOT of it. Nice work!
 
i've mostly avoided ground target type spells because i just dont like the mechanic of having to click twice to cast a spell but i recently learned from another thread here that you can use /cast "remote roiling servant" to automatically cast at your target. not that this plugin would care 1 way or the other but it got me thinking.

my question is would it be worth using remote servant by default in this plugin simply to remove travel time to mob?
 
i've mostly avoided ground target type spells because i just dont like the mechanic of having to click twice to cast a spell but i recently learned from another thread here that you can use /cast "remote roiling servant" to automatically cast at your target. not that this plugin would care 1 way or the other but it got me thinking.

my question is would it be worth using remote servant by default in this plugin simply to remove travel time to mob?
no plans on looking into that at this current time. very happy with how things function at this time
 
my mage isn't auto closing her spell book and she isn't casting her group damage shield buff
 
my mage isn't auto closing her spell book and she isn't casting her group damage shield buff
you didn't say what you're using for automation and you didn't post in a location that would indicate what you're using.

please help people help you :)

I'm going to assume you're using mq2mage, since you've recently downloaded the plugin, but please confirm

you should always check the information for the resource, in this case there is an item in the FAQ that specifically mentions this potential issue if you have your eq settings set to min for max background fps (yes even with frame limiter).

Please see >>> Getting Started with CWTN plugins! (Movement, UI Window, Clickies, Pulling, ETC) Check Here First! <<<

it also talks explains buffing - in this case you didn't say specifically which spell, or on whom, etc - but my guess is either a: the character isn't a local character, or b: is not a tank class
 
yes, its the mq2mage that i recently bought. she doesnt always close her spell book after she mems a new spell or changes spells. not sure what you mean by automation. windows? she doesnt cast her group damage shield,,,any of them. my other 5 toons work just fine. zerk, shd, bst, sham, cleric
 
yes, its the mq2mage that i recently bought. she doesnt always close her spell book after she mems a new spell or changes spells. not sure what you mean by automation. windows? she doesnt cast her group damage shield,,,any of them. my other 5 toons work just fine. zerk, shd, bst, sham, cleric
hi peanut

thanks for confirming.

the automation would be "what automation you're using to automate your toon, kissassist, muleassist, rgmercs, entropy, modbot, xgen, cwtn plugin, mq2melee, etc)

did you take a look at the things i suggested? if you have your max background fps set to min, you can run into this as you're starving your background toons from being able to do do work - it is in the FAQ as i mentioned.

I haven't heard this happening to anyone in a while - but you can and WILL get all sorts of bad stuff having it set to min - which is why it is in the FAQ

Q. I sometimes get stuck in my spell book?
A. This is often due to your background fps not being high enough. It is strongly advised to utilize at LEAST 30 fps for background, recommended 60+ background fps. The fps cycle for eq is where "work" is done. If your background fps is set to "min" you can and will have undesired results with all sorts of automation activities.
Alt-O -> Display -> Advanced - > Max Background FPS
You will also need to check if you are using any external background fps limiting software - like isboxer - and adjust that accordingly.


Re: the other thing - please take a look at the things i mentioned (the sticky has a thing about how to ask for help - which includes being specific about what/where/when/how/why and what your expected behavior vs actual) example: "my mage is not casting cool_Group_DS on my druid who is the main tank on another computer" --- answer would be "we only cast cool_Group_DS on actual tank 'classes' pal, shd, war - toons also have to be 'local

buffing is pretty straightforward. Toons have to be local toons on mq2cwtnbuffs (not another computer/directory), they have to be toons that match toons we'd cast those buffs on (tank classes for DS), and they have to not have the spell blocked, and mq has to stay the spell stacks with their current buffs, the buffing toon needs to not be in byos (or be in byos-custom).

nothing really more to it than those things.

definitely when you get a chance, check the thing i shared previously. not only are there a lot of plugin specific things - but broad eq things that many folks don't realize are important. EQ is a complicated game, and we try and make as many decisions and choices for you where we can

Please see >>> Getting Started with CWTN plugins! (Movement, UI Window, Clickies, Pulling, ETC) Check Here First! <<<
 
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Question: UseSelfPetWeapons OFF

Hello,

Question, when UseSelfPetWeapons us set to Off, what is the average distance for the mage to distribute pet weapons within the group? thanks
 
thx Sic, yes to Off to distribute weapons to other pets within the group. appreciate the information
yep.

i was making sure we were talking about the same thing because the words you used are not a setting, but it sounded like you were asking about the thing i was asking clarification about

thanks
 
My mage is lvl 101 and is meming Beam of Brimstone in gem 1, when UseAOE is on. On single pulls he is casting Beam of Brimstone, AoECount isn't respected.

Is this the expected behavior?

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Feature or "improvement" request - Summon Modulation Shard AA likes to cast whether we're in combat or not. This has lead to the situations of: 1. Losing DPS during a fight when we still have plenty of mana left, 2. In a "MQ2grind" situation where mobs are dropping fast, this will be repeat casted as a function of moving around a lot.

Would you consider making this an OOC function instead?

Edit: I'd also like to note that this is with UseMelee enabled
 
Feature or "improvement" request - Summon Modulation Shard AA likes to cast whether we're in combat or not. This has lead to the situations of: 1. Losing DPS during a fight when we still have plenty of mana left, 2. In a "MQ2grind" situation where mobs are dropping fast, this will be repeat casted as a function of moving around a lot.

Would you consider making this an OOC function instead?

Edit: I'd also like to note that this is with UseMelee enabled
hi csguy,

sorry about that. unfortunately, we have no plans on doing that at this time.

the whole point of having the mod rod when you can is the reuse timer on the mod rod itself, so you have a mod rod to use when you need it. Since you don't have a mod rod, we're going to cast it the moment you no longer have one and we can. We don't cast it when you already have a modrod (unless it is forced via command), so it likely means you just used it, meaning you're actively using the mod rods and have mana as a result of using it, not as a result of not using it.

if you have some automation like grind, dragging you around, you're going to run into something like that if it doesn't not-drag you when you're already casting a spell - that isnt' an mq2mage thing, and unfortunately we're not going to change the functionality because of that. changing to an out-of-combat only thing isn't going to chage this if you're being interrupted by getting dragged around
 
i'm still having trouble with my mage not closing his spellbook sometimes when he changes his spells. i've tried reloading the UI and even changing the UI to a custom one. i've tried the settings under options to increase cpu speed and still no help. Any help would be greatly appreciated
 
i'm still having trouble with my mage not closing his spellbook sometimes when he changes his spells. i've tried reloading the UI and even changing the UI to a custom one. i've tried the settings under options to increase cpu speed and still no help. Any help would be greatly appreciated
the stuff in the FAQ mentions what to do about it if you're having it.

you almost certainly have your max background fps set to "min" - you should have it set to at least 30 (pref 60).

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make sure to do that and then set up framelimiter

> Framelimiter <

If you have any external programs restricting your background performance (like isboxer) you should change that as well
 
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i'm not using isboxer or anything but the program from redguides. i set those background frames to max and its still hanging up after he opens his book to change spells. it doesnt happen everytime and i even went back to the default EQ UI to see if it changed anything and it didnt. i'm running 5, sometimes 6 toons from the same PC. This isnt a gaming PC, cant afford one, but it does have 8 ram so the graphics arent wide open like some computers can be set to. i also have a wifi signal that isnt the best in the world. i live out in God's country where they pipe=in sunshine lol. Do you think the wifi might be the problem? I do get quite a bit of LAG during the day. i hope that helps you figure out whats going on. Thanks Sic
 
i'm not using isboxer or anything but the program from redguides. i set those background frames to max and its still hanging up after he opens his book to change spells. it doesnt happen everytime and i even went back to the default EQ UI to see if it changed anything and it didnt. i'm running 5, sometimes 6 toons from the same PC. This isnt a gaming PC, cant afford one, but it does have 8 ram so the graphics arent wide open like some computers can be set to. i also have a wifi signal that isnt the best in the world. i live out in God's country where they pipe=in sunshine lol. Do you think the wifi might be the problem? I do get quite a bit of LAG during the day. i hope that helps you figure out whats going on. Thanks Sic
it is *possible* it is the wifi, but it is more likely that if your pc is struggling (maxing out cpu) that that is what is causing the issue.

there is no reason to put those to max btw, do 30 or 60 for maxfps and maxbgfps.

you can also just turn on UseMelee on the mage, and combat would force him to come out of the book for fighting
 
Not a huge thing and TLP specific at least but when you have use Paradox on and have UseFire turned off mage still summons and uses Molten Orb (Mage currently level 75). He still uses wintry paradox which is great but is still taking the time to summon and then weave in the molten orb which are resisted.
 
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