Taunt still has an odd social aggro component.... you can taunt a NPC and run him thru other NPC's that would normally aggro you..... as long as you dont riposte or strike the NPC you taunted you wont get social aggro
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Discussion - The earliest bug or exploit you remember
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Sum1
Warriors are inferior (read: crybaby) tanks
Which one was that?
Someone was selling OMM gear when it was current raid gear because (please correct me if I'm wrong... I only got part of the story here) they figured out they could edit the brews by messing with the hex code or whatever... which meant as long as you could purchase gear they could get you whatever you wanted. I ended up getting the smackdown from a GM and having all the gear (including legit stuff) ganked from my account.
Sum1
Warriors are inferior (read: crybaby) tanks
Guessing you mean Temple of Veeshan the zone.
Sigh stroke brain problems i actually meant Vex Thal
Distant Light
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Do you guys remember when the Sleeper was woken up and was getting killed then the DM's showed up and stopped it. It was on a PVP server no less. Everyone that played back then Thought surely the guild Valon or another on a care bare server would have been the first to bring it down. There was a BIG uproar about the DM's stopping it. Sony EQ(back then) said it was an unkillable mob (as it was designed to be too strong for players to kill) but it was getting killed so they thought the players were cheating and stopped the fight. A few week(s) later the same three PVP guilds go together again, this time without interference from the DM's and they downed it. People were dying so much they were told by raid leaders to run back in and pick up their epic 1.0 or most powerful weapons and just keep fighting. The worst part about that is that it dropped no loot at and the DM's (i.e. Sony) never even said grats, at least that I recall.
This was not the first time Sony said a mob was unkillable but was proven wrong. I'll share about that one later unless someone posts about it. As a hint it dealt with the first epic.
This was not the first time Sony said a mob was unkillable but was proven wrong. I'll share about that one later unless someone posts about it. As a hint it dealt with the first epic.
I've been watching aVeryLovingRobot on Twitch while playing, he's a former EQ Lead Designer and he is streaming and talking to other EQ devs, this has come up in conversation a few times, I think he was in the CS pit with all the GMs when this happened, something like the call came down from above (Brad McQuaid?) to depop the sleeper so it couldn't be killed and they knew there would be carnage when they did it. They are interesting videos/interviews to watch, a bit slow but lots of interesting nuggets comes up.
Someone mentions the VT invisible bridge above, the designer of that zone is interviewed, says he designed VT in his last week with Sony before moving to another game company, didn't have time to test it. He was a high level raider himself at the time so after leaving he was raiding the zone and trying to give balance feedback to his old colleagues but never got a reply, something about AE blind not being a good mechanic. I wonder if he designed in a back door for himself like this for easier farming, I'm sure there's a lot of that went on but they had to keep it low key. These were guys in their early twenties and not well paid remember.
I recommend watching those videos on twitch anyway, aVeryLovingRobot, just a random link below to his channel
So my earliest memories of "bugs" and or glitches would be from the summer of 1999. I have vivid memories of my friend who played a druid was really getting into the roleplay aspect and was healing wolves that other players were trying to kill for experience. She wasn't trying to be mean just playing out what a druid would do.
Another glitch... a quick way from North Karana to Keynes: leave NK to WK and then immediately get in the river on the South side of the zone and swim underwater back to NK, this would zone you to the Qeynos Hills zone line in WK.
The last bug I remember was that it required magic spells or magic weapons to kill willowisp and I remember either Chanters or Necros charming them in NK to kill giants. The Giants could not kill the charmed pet because the giant didn't have a magic attack.
Another glitch... a quick way from North Karana to Keynes: leave NK to WK and then immediately get in the river on the South side of the zone and swim underwater back to NK, this would zone you to the Qeynos Hills zone line in WK.
The last bug I remember was that it required magic spells or magic weapons to kill willowisp and I remember either Chanters or Necros charming them in NK to kill giants. The Giants could not kill the charmed pet because the giant didn't have a magic attack.
Distant Light
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The first time I heard that Sony said a mob was unkillable was Inte in the Plane of Sky. When the first Paladin epic was forged the guild completing the quest decided to kill Inte and see what weapon he used. Well it was a 150/2 delay weapon back in the Kunark era. It was randomed out to a warrior who got it. I think it was the next day or so and a DM showed up and told the warrior to give it to the DM or he would kill the warrior and take it. Of course the warrior gave it up and got a nice item in return for his trouble. The sword exists to this day, that I know and I did not check as of writing this, but it was made no rent so as long as you can stay logged in you can play with it.
yeah, was on video. Watched it, so much dieing =)
Well, if you're going to count things like MQ2, then technically ShowEQ came before that I believe. If I remember it right, originally you even had to do a complicated passthrough setup where your network traffic came into your network, passed through one computer, and then got forwarded to the one you were playing on. In a game with no ingame map system, where you had to navigate by only what you saw in a small 3D box in the center of the screen, it was truly amazing to see a representation of where all the mobs were in a zone - if you could get it setup correctly.
Distant Light
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Yes, you had to use a packet sniffer to show what was going on thus the name ShowEQ.
MustangMark83
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There was a dungeon, can't remember the name of it.... I think maybe it was in the times of classic or Kunark? but you could go in and aggro a goblin, drag it back to the entrance, within 1 step of the zone-out and he wouldn't be able to get to you. You could range DPS it without having to take any melee damage. It was just stuck standing there staring at you while you pew pew'd it. Eventually a GM showed up and told me to knock it off.
My first exploit ever was editing the buff effects on my druid so that I could give myself lev and sow with clicky buffs so I could quad kite without needing to stop and buff ever. It was super easy to do, I did it in cheatengine (this was well before mq2 or even mq).
Haha that sounds soooo fun
This is the only exploit I knew of and used before they changed things to make it not work. Go to whatever zone that has lots of trash mobs to fight through before you get to a camp. Camp has a safe spot. Unplug your internet connection from computer. Run your mage (of course you have a mage or 12) to the safe spot, the mobs will not react to you. I think you had @2min before game disconnects. When EQ crashes ( I forget, maybe I logged out before crashing), reconnect internet, log back on and mage is at safe spot ready to CoTH group. I forget how long ago that was.
SomeTester
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This one is current. I like to take my toons to old raid mobs and get the kills I never got back in the day. As such I never got the Arx key. Well with a gnome illusion my bard can see inside Seru’s castle, sing a low damage air song and get summoned inside.
SomeTester
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Oh let’s not forget the lord and savior of exploits Fancy the Famous Bard. There was a “no rules” Good vs Evil PvP server and 80% of the server was evil. The only rule was level 5 and lower could no be attacked by players.
Enter Fancy who would stay at level 5 singing Selo’s so he was faster than all the mobs and then train groups of mobs into the bad guys, aka, evil team players. There was nothing they could do to harm him in retaliation because there were no rules, training and briefing was allowed and he was under the PvP level limit.
After enough complaints, they changed the rules and removed the level 5 PvP limit in mid/high tier zones. All because of one Fancy bard supporting the good team.
Enter Fancy who would stay at level 5 singing Selo’s so he was faster than all the mobs and then train groups of mobs into the bad guys, aka, evil team players. There was nothing they could do to harm him in retaliation because there were no rules, training and briefing was allowed and he was under the PvP level limit.
After enough complaints, they changed the rules and removed the level 5 PvP limit in mid/high tier zones. All because of one Fancy bard supporting the good team.
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yangwenlii
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Back in 1999 we used to pull the plug with autorun on to get to different islands in plane of sky. Worked great
the one i used most must have been: camping close to a wall, logging back inside the wall, doing it again and ending up at succor point. IE the sirens grotto skip
first exploit(able thing) i ever saw was when i friend died and zoned at the same time (purple bar) in crushbone, when he ran back into cb he had a clone of himself there on the ground with all the gear on it. he got scared (didnt want to get banned) and never looted it though.
first exploit(able thing) i ever saw was when i friend died and zoned at the same time (purple bar) in crushbone, when he ran back into cb he had a clone of himself there on the ground with all the gear on it. he got scared (didnt want to get banned) and never looted it though.
A legend, I think I still have screenshots on an external from his chat log “adventures” that got posted.
that was my sever lol. The battles that would ensue were epic. His charming the Priest of Discord is one of the best exploits without actually cheating I've ever seen. He was just more clever than he devs
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Killing gms.
I used brewed Trumpy tonic turn-ins on Groflah Steadirt to level an alt back in 1999 before they nerfed it into the ground. I hated that boat ride from Freeport to Butcherblock though! I was also able to recharge my soulfire twice using a bug involving giving it to one of the miltia guards but the third time I tried it, it ate the sword and I had to do the quest all over again.
I missed out on all the cool stuff like item dupes and tradeskill exploits though.
This seems like ages ago!
I missed out on all the cool stuff like item dupes and tradeskill exploits though.
This seems like ages ago!
Bug: Ak'Anon -- Some of the necro merchants from the back, would "overlap" the map, and be at the entrance instead. As soon as a good race spawned in, it would aggro. If you were really fast, you could run around the corner before it aggroed and avoid it. My wood elf Ranger had to deal with that every time I went to go buy banded molds.
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That's the kind of thing I liked about EQ though. Those tough to deal with circumstances inspired cleverness
Budhakissy
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Best exploit I remember was a pathing one we called tank dancing although any class could do it. You had to run behind a mob and do quick small circles. It would bug the mob and prevent it from doing anything. You could solo epics but you may have carpool tuñnel by the end
This isn't really an exploit, but mostly a result of me being young and the internet being relatively new still.
I found a forge in Dalnir called No-Fail Forge when I was exploring. I never once thought to try and verify it was in fact a no fail forge (spoiler: it wasn't) but my imagination ran away immediately.
I thought I had stumbled upon something nobody knew about. How else could you explain it never being mentioned by anyone? Or the lack of people lining up to use it.
I made plans to create an Enchanter. Get materials for great armor and just use the forge to guarantee success. Make lots of platinum. Deck out some characters. I had it all figured out, except I didn't want to actually level this Enchanter. I would need an escort to the forge on this character. Well I can't do that and risk giving away my secret!
None of this plan seems sensible reflecting back on it. If it was no fail why not use the character I found it with, who could clearly get there without an escort? Idk. I was like 12 years old. At the time though I thought I was big brain 1000 IQ about to get mega rich.
In the end I spent so much time planning what I would do, what I should craft, etc that I never ended up going there again.
I found a forge in Dalnir called No-Fail Forge when I was exploring. I never once thought to try and verify it was in fact a no fail forge (spoiler: it wasn't) but my imagination ran away immediately.
I thought I had stumbled upon something nobody knew about. How else could you explain it never being mentioned by anyone? Or the lack of people lining up to use it.
I made plans to create an Enchanter. Get materials for great armor and just use the forge to guarantee success. Make lots of platinum. Deck out some characters. I had it all figured out, except I didn't want to actually level this Enchanter. I would need an escort to the forge on this character. Well I can't do that and risk giving away my secret!
None of this plan seems sensible reflecting back on it. If it was no fail why not use the character I found it with, who could clearly get there without an escort? Idk. I was like 12 years old. At the time though I thought I was big brain 1000 IQ about to get mega rich.
In the end I spent so much time planning what I would do, what I should craft, etc that I never ended up going there again.
knave23
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This is the one I remember first and only real exploit I think I've ever done, but it got my monk alt a Vish staff lol. Any others I'm usually too late to hear about
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Shadow
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The first exploit I came across involved both Tormax and AoW. There was a wall you could pull both to and as a gnome warrior, you could tank both without ever taking any damage. You could hit them and hold threat, they couldn't touch you, and everyone could straight burn them down.
Ok, I know it's ASSumed it's EQ related but........
Around 1970 infront of Tic Toc(7-11, Circle K) there were 3-4 pay phones. You could call the operator and say "Dimes Credit". That would mean you lost your dime and the operator could refund you. There were gas stations on 2 of the corners there as well with pay phones. My brother and I would be eating fat from the candy scored at Tic Toc. A snickers was 5 cents and a soda was 15 cents(you got a nickle back for the bottle return). Life was good! Let the exploits begin!
Around 1970 infront of Tic Toc(7-11, Circle K) there were 3-4 pay phones. You could call the operator and say "Dimes Credit". That would mean you lost your dime and the operator could refund you. There were gas stations on 2 of the corners there as well with pay phones. My brother and I would be eating fat from the candy scored at Tic Toc. A snickers was 5 cents and a soda was 15 cents(you got a nickle back for the bottle return). Life was good! Let the exploits begin!