Plugin - MQ2Bard (1 Viewer) 3.1.52471.11

[Texas Weasel]

Ok thanks for the info Sic , will keep all of that in mind .

I re-rolled over on a pretty under utilized server as I never see anyone in the zones I goto.

Stay in SicTank mode all others in ChaseAssist mode.

And yes I was just worrying about it - it’s pretty eye catching to see a bard popping a squat like that every 5 sec or so.

I need to set up my EQBCS movement and function keys this weekend , will be able to fine tune a bit more . I have absolutely nothing set up yet other then throw on ChaseAssist and SK go smash stuff keys.

Just thought I would reach out and ask as I haven’t played since the new CWTN UI was implemented, thanks again

 

[Sic]

Ok thanks for the info Sic , will keep all of that in mind .

I re-rolled over on a pretty under utilized server as I never see anyone in the zones I goto.

Stay in SicTank mode all others in ChaseAssist mode.

And yes I was just worrying about it - it’s pretty eye catching to see a bard popping a squat like that every 5 sec or so.

I need to set up my EQBCS movement and function keys this weekend , will be able to fine tune a bit more . I have absolutely nothing set up yet other then throw on ChaseAssist and SK go smash stuff keys.

Just thought I would reach out and ask as I haven’t played since the new CWTN UI was implemented, thanks again

hell yeah dude, sounds like a good time

bard never skippin leg day ya know

 

[kronoislife]

Silly question. Do these plugins override the normal kissassist config file or do I need to edit my config files in a way that makes it not compete with the plugin?

 

[Sic]

Silly question. Do these plugins override the normal kissassist config file or do I need to edit my config files in a way that makes it not compete with the plugin?

You do not want to run any conflicting automation. This isn't kissassist and you don't run it at the same time at all

 

[kronoislife]

You do not want to run any conflicting automation. This isn't kissassist and you don't run it at the same time at all

Thanks Sic. That makes way more sense than me over complicating things in my head.

 

[Myysterio]

Something weird while in hunter mode on bard. Every once in a while it will be singing songs and try to refresh aura and i will get a spam of "You can't use that command while casting...." and it will not stop until i manually click on a spell gem to stop what it's doing. When whatever it's singing is over, it will refresh aura and then go on with whatever its doing. I haven't noticed this in any other mode.



Also, will click Lute of Flowing waters, Breath of Harmony, and Darkened Breath of Harmony endlessly anytime they are ready unless something is agro on you, had to deactivate them from downtime. They are instant refresh song clicks.

 

[Sic]

Something weird while in hunter mode on bard. Every once in a while it will be singing songs and try to refresh aura and i will get a spam of "You can't use that command while casting...." and it will not stop until i manually click on a spell gem to stop what it's doing. When whatever it's singing is over, it will refresh aura and then go on with whatever its doing. I haven't noticed this in any other mode.

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Also, will click Lute of Flowing waters, Breath of Harmony, and Darkened Breath of Harmony endlessly anytime they are ready unless something is agro on you, had to deactivate them from downtime. They are instant refresh song clicks.

also - we utilize darkened break so you should remove it from downtime as it is already a special.

you should remove anything else that conflicts or overwrites - otherwise you're just going to continue to overwrite stuff.

there isn't anything in huntertank mode that says "fuck my shit up fam" so i don't know what to tell you other than "you shouldn't just fill up your clickies with nonsense, you can and will bug out bard casting by clicking too many things too quickly, i know of at least 2 different ways to break bard casting manually (with no mq)"

 

[Warking2]

Byos is off and I have Slumber of the Mindshear Rk II and Wave of Slumber Rk II both memorized. Both mez to 88 the mobs were are all dark blue or even con and I was in an instance of the foundation doing underfoot progession quest.

Im having this issue today on live. Bard just not mezzing at all, blue con to 125. It isn't even trying to mez any AoE. Will do single, but not AoE.

Attached is the options I have selected.

 

[Sic]

Im having this issue today on live. Bard just not mezzing at all, blue con to 125. It isn't even trying to mez any AoE. Will do single, but not AoE.

Attached is the options I have selected.

you quoted a reply to someone who was on a special server with a special spell.

what spell are you expecting it to aoemez with, specifically, because we wouldn't memorize wave of slumber at 85

you didn't mention if you checked that it wasn't on the immune list, you do have auto mez immune turned on

we only use aoemez if you have more than 2 targets.

 

[Warking2]

you quoted a reply to someone who was on a special server with a special spell.

what spell are you expecting it to aoemez with, specifically, because we wouldn't memorize wave of slumber at 85

you didn't mention if you checked that it wasn't on the immune list, you do have auto mez immune turned on

we only use aoemez if you have more than 2 targets.

Would hope Wave of Stupor RK II as a lvl 125 bard. (which is loaded by the plugin)

There were no immune targets on the list for the zone.

Pulling more than 4 at a time. sometimes 5 mobs.

When I swap Enchanter in same zone, it is mezzing fine so mobs most certainly can be mezzed.

just uninstalled/deleted and reinstalled plugin and it fixed...

 

[Sic]

just uninstalled/deleted and reinstalled plugin and it fixed...

Glad it is working. There's nothing that redownloading the same .dll file would work, unless somehow you got hit with a solar flare or somethin

 

[Warking2]

Glad it is working. There's nothing that redownloading the same .dll file would work, unless somehow you got hit with a solar flare or somethin

HAHA True, I will blame Microsoft Windows

 

[ChatWithThisName]

Those solar flares are the absolute worst!

 

[Texas Weasel]

A different perspective may be needed on the inner working of the bard while using CWTN UI settings.

Currently using a melee 6box on live sk/shm/brd/bst/2xrog all lvl 99 all CWTN all Gold

As far as song loadout should i be using Melee or MeleeDots i tried to parse and compare , the only difference i've noticed is the bards increase in DPS , the others seem to hold pretty consistent numbers.

The same question would revolve around which Aura to use Dmg or Regen ? Currently using Dmg Aura , but find myself swapping Auras back and forth. My SK and Bst seem to ride the line of always wanting to run OOM while the Shm never goes OOM.

Have also noticed that the Bard never seems to use rallying solo or rallying call .
I do have the options selected in the settings. As example the Bard is spouting " Group still needs rest , please wait ".
Bard was currently at 27.0 endurance and so stopped pulls. Both AA state you need less the 30.0 endurance or mana to use.
Currently i have under the pulling tab set EndMedStart = 5.0 and EndMedEnd = 45.0

Shouldn't the bard stop pulls at 5.0 endurance and pop Rallying solo at that point ?

Any insight would be helpful as i'm not a bard person. I've always stuck with an enchanter up till now. The Bard is growing on me tho i love the pulling and ADPS . Some Bard abilities tho just make me want to stove my head into a tree stump.

A very confusing class for sure.

 

[Sic]

As far as song loadout should i be using Melee or MeleeDots i tried to parse and compare , the only difference i've noticed is the bards increase in DPS , the others seem to hold pretty consistent numbers.

use meleedots if you want more personal dps, other if you want to buff others

The same question would revolve around which Aura to use Dmg or Regen ? Currently using Dmg Aura , but find myself swapping Auras back and forth. My SK and Bst seem to ride the line of always wanting to run OOM while the Shm never goes OOM.

i use dmg aura full time - you're in a weird level range and things will normalize a bit soon. so pick what you need as you're doing.

Have also noticed that the Bard never seems to use rallying solo or rallying call .

it does - but would only use them on local toons on same pc etc etc etc

adjust your RallyingMana / RallyingEndurance

Currently i have under the pulling tab set EndMedStart = 5.0 and EndMedEnd = 45.0

that is your pulling setting, has nothing to do with rallying settings. make sure to adjust your rallying settings.

RallyingMana default is 30, RallyingEndurance is 5, so if you stop at 5, but you're over 5 on your endurance, you're not going to use it as you're over 5.

Any insight would be helpful as i'm not a bard person. I've always stuck with an enchanter up till now. The Bard is growing on me tho i love the pulling and ADPS . Some Bard abilities tho just make me want to stove my head into a tree stump.

it sounds like you're likely overthinking things a little bit because of where you're at in the game.

once you're playing the game with gear/aa/levels that match the content you're doing, things will feel better.

your bst and sk running out of mana aren't going to be saved by adjusting settings on your bard

 

[Texas Weasel]

Ok thanks Sic , will adjust settings as suggested.

 

[ChatWithThisName]

ChatWithThisName updated MQ2Bard with a new update entry:

5/02/2025

- UseLowestInsults setting added
- - recent change allowed for any insults to trigger synergy
- - this will use the lowest push/non-push (respectively) insult you have and save mana

Read the rest of this update entry...

 

[98bcobra]

Really love this Plugin so far!! Increased my bard's DPs over KA immensely. Easy to switch his role if I need to as well. Great work!

 

[nordiceggy]

Is anyone running their Bard out-of-group with the plugin? I'd like to bring my Mage back into the main group and have the Bard just follow the healer around and sing support songs. What would be the best setup or hotbutton configuration to make this work smoothly?

 

[Sic]

Is anyone running their Bard out-of-group with the plugin? I'd like to bring my Mage back into the main group and have the Bard just follow the healer around and sing support songs. What would be the best setup or hotbutton configuration to make this work smoothly?

Your best bet is to look in the FAQ about how that would work, your best bet is to paint it with a healer who is aggressively xtarget healing so as to get the mob on xtarget asap

 

[nordiceggy]

Your best bet is to look in the FAQ about how that would work, your best bet is to paint it with a healer who is aggressively xtarget healing so as to get the mob on xtarget asap

I could have the tank/puller as the xtarget and the bard would start doing things if it was set on assist?

 

[Sic]

I could have the tank/puller as the xtarget and the bard would start doing things if it was set on assist?

Did you take a sec to check the part in the sticky I mentioned? Cause no, that's not how that works

 

[nordiceggy]

Did you take a sec to check the part in the sticky I mentioned? Cause no, that's not how that works

yeah i looked at the faq but didnt see anythign about my question, i'm sure its there i just struggle iwth lots of words. I decided to drop my druid and have it xtarget healing and buffing and kept eh bard in the party

 

[staring6]

I enjoy playing the lower levels using MQ, and I'm wondering if there's a recommended level range for using this plugin.

I understand that many of its features aren’t available at low levels, but I’d love to experience how the Bard gradually becomes far more competent than I could ever pilot manually as I level up.

 

[ChatWithThisName]

I enjoy playing the lower levels using MQ, and I'm wondering if there's a recommended level range for using this plugin.

I understand that many of its features aren’t available at low levels, but I’d love to experience how the Bard gradually becomes far more competent than I could ever pilot manually as I level up.

It works at level 1. Any level should be fine.

 

[staring6]

It works at level 1. Any level should be fine.

Thank you !
Hearing that, I’ve finally decided to purchase the plugin. This will actually be my first time buying any plugin. Until now, I’ve always enjoyed tweaking KA INIs myself and thought, “That’s part of the fun!” — but Bard has always been the exception for me.

I kept thinking, “Which songs should I use?” “What order should I queue them in? I have no idea!”
Ever since this plugin was announced, I’ve been following the thread with excitement, thinking, “Maybe this will finally free me from the chaos.”
So now, I’m really looking forward to trying it out. Thanks again!

 

[etherealmist]

What's the best way to try and get 100% uptime on something like Frost Inlaid Lute of Boreal Wind ?

It's an instant click group mana regen and I'd like to use the item w/o a cast time instead of the regular spell so I can twist extra songs instead of mana regen. I've tried adding it to some of the item clicky things but it has a hard time actually clicking it consistently in a song rotation. it'll be up maybe 20% of the time I feel like.

 

[Fargrim]

What's the best way to try and get 100% uptime on something like Frost Inlaid Lute of Boreal Wind ?

It's an instant click group mana regen and I'd like to use the item w/o a cast time instead of the regular spell so I can twist extra songs instead of mana regen. I've tried adding it to some of the item clicky things but it has a hard time actually clicking it consistently in a song rotation. it'll be up maybe 20% of the time I feel like.

Go grab EQLogParser and check your actual uptime it might be more than you 'feel'.
That said, those instant clicks have been a problem for some people adding them randomly to clickies.
Darkened Breath of Harmony for example.

I don't know if the plugin automatically puts the Frost Inlaid Lute of Boreal Wind in add clickies but check the
special section there. If it's there leave it there and only there.
Duplicating locations may cause unintended results like spamming that and only that.
If it's in the special section, the plugin should use it as soon as it's able without interrupting higher priority actions.

Outside of the plugin you can tie it to a button that you frequently use whether you're playing the bard or not.
If you have a spam key on the toon you drive from just add something like the following:
For Dannet: /dex AwesomeBardName /useitem Frost Inlaid Lute of Boreal Wind
For EQBCS(I believe it's): /bct AwesomeBardName /useitem Frost Inlaid Lute of Boreal Wind

 

[etherealmist]

Go grab EQLogParser and check your actual uptime it might be more than you 'feel'.
That said, those instant clicks have been a problem for some people adding them randomly to clickies.
Darkened Breath of Harmony for example.

I don't know if the plugin automatically puts the Frost Inlaid Lute of Boreal Wind in add clickies but check the
special section there. If it's there leave it there and only there.
Duplicating locations may cause unintended results like spamming that and only that.
If it's in the special section, the plugin should use it as soon as it's able without interrupting higher priority actions.

Outside of the plugin you can tie it to a button that you frequently use whether you're playing the bard or not.
If you have a spam key on the toon you drive from just add something like the following:
For Dannet: /dex AwesomeBardName /useitem Frost Inlaid Lute of Boreal Wind
For EQBCS(I believe it's): /bct AwesomeBardName /useitem Frost Inlaid Lute of Boreal Wind

It does not automatically add it. The uptime that I was watching was the actual song window. It's only in the window about 20% of the time, and that was with adding it manually to basically every item click category one by one until it would trigger as often as possible.

The main thing i would like is to have it casting only while the bard plugin is actually running, and for sure not casting when I'm running around invis :P

 

[Fargrim]

It does not automatically add it. The uptime that I was watching was the actual song window. It's only in the window about 20% of the time, and that was with adding it manually to basically every item click category one by one until it would trigger as often as possible.

The main thing i would like is to have it casting only while the bard plugin is actually running, and for sure not casting when I'm running around invis :P

In that case, at most, I'd add it to offensive and then accept the fact that there are more important things for the plugin to do than click it for 100% uptime,
while simultaneously adding it to a hotkey as described above from my driver if I really wanted to push for more uptime.

The only other option I can think of would be to get that item added to the special clicky section.
Even then it will fall wherever it lies in the priority list.

 

[Sic]

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The only other option I can think of would be to get that item added to the special clicky section.
Even then it will fall wherever it lies in the priority list.

...

So anyhow.

Yah that isnt an item that we add to special clickies, so if it isn't in special, then it isn't a special clicky.

Multi worded items should be put in quotes for a /use item.

What's the best way to try and get 100% uptime on something like Frost Inlaid Lute of Boreal Wind ?

It's an instant click group mana regen and I'd like to use the item w/o a cast time instead of the regular spell so I can twist extra songs instead of mana regen. I've tried adding it to some of the item clicky things but it has a hard time actually clicking it consistently in a song rotation. it'll be up maybe 20% of the time I feel like.

Well. You'd probably want to add it to both offensive (while you're actively fighting something) and downtime, when you're not. Or you could even add it to manaself or managroup with a high value.

We check for the buff, and for if it stacks with other buffs, if we think you already have it (due to eq) or we do t think it stanks (from eq/mq interaction) then we wouldn't use it.

Those get checked very frequently.

 

[etherealmist]

With a tune stuck in your head AA, how many songs should I expect the bard to twist effectively? I might have been overloading it with too many songs.

 

[burdsjm]

With a tune stuck in your head AA, how many songs should I expect the bard to twist effectively? I might have been overloading it with too many songs.

Are you byos or byos custom?

 

[etherealmist]

Are you byos or byos custom?

I was running custom.

 

[burdsjm]

I've had 10 songs going simultaneously with it and clickies. Out of curiosity, what are you doing with your song lineup that the regular plugin doesn't do?

 

[Kosu]

I have a dumb question, if i'm running the plugin and I just want my bard to play travel song, how would I do that? Right now i have the bard set to manual but i can't tell the bard to do anything manually.

 

[Sic]

I have a dumb question, if i'm running the plugin and I just want my bard to play travel song, how would I do that? Right now i have the bard set to manual but i can't tell the bard to do anything manually.

If you're talking about the old time invis/selos you just pause the plugin and then sing it manually.

Modern game has invis/movement aa, so you'd just hit that and off ya go.

A spell that you want to continue to sing but maybe/maybe not break on combat or invis fading what tricky, so we don't automatically do it

 

[Kosu]

If you're talking about the old time invis/selos you just pause the plugin and then sing it manually.

Modern game has invis/movement aa, so you'd just hit that and off ya go.

A spell that you want to continue to sing but maybe/maybe not break on combat or invis fading what tricky, so we don't automatically do it

Ok, thanks a lot for the info. Appreciate it. Super new to all this.

 

[Kosu]

Is there a way to make the bard use slow (i.e. Requiem of Time)?

 

[Sic]

Is there a way to make the bard use slow (i.e. Requiem of Time)?

no, universally if the plugin doesn't say it uses something - it doesn't.

we have a single "Binding" and aoe "AoE Binding" group for the combo slow/snare/etc spell

since it is 55% and by it's lonesome - it really should have its own group (and my notes was that i did intend to do that), so i'll take a look at adding it for byos usage