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Question - Sk or warrior for 6 box team live

Sk if you primary bot - Macroquest controls shadowknights 100x better than it does warriors. Or should I say Kissassist/Auto Warrior controls Shadowknights better than Warriors not Mq2.


Warrior if you plan on playing the character/play the tank 50% of the time at least. Warriors are the best tanks in the game... period. The only issue is Macroquest2 isn't human and it can't read a situation as well as a human can and pop cooldowns appropriately. Thus, it plays Warriors worse than it plays Sks.
 
For 6 box, I'd go war. They are more specialized to tank where SK trades some of that for utility.

I've had both and the SK would get overpowered by bad pulls easier than war.

If your play style is more after hunter achievement or you're 3 boxing, the SK may be better (self invis, feign, pet pulling for bad zone geography, etc)
 
Depends on what you are doing I suppose. I have both but almost always use my SK for the utility. I love being able to drag a mage and then FD and rez him for group COH. I also love charging deep into a zone to FD and hail a guy for a task instead of clearing there with a group.
 
For my 6 box team I use an SK it was eluded to above but I feel MQ does a better job with an SK and its more utility and serves in a number of situations. Warriors better pure tanks if you're going to play it manually Go War.. if you're going to let it bot 100% my option is SK.
 
SK for the utility. You can write a holy so that he'll summon the puller's corpse should he die on a pull. With the appropriate gear, aa and other support group he'll tap for around 2m
 
i run two teams, pretty much identical setups, wizzys/zerks,/clerics and chanters, but my main is a war who raids and my sk isn't, since the warrior is by far beefier I find it easier to punch out harder stuff with him, and do some grinds/farming with the sk. I like both but lean towards war for those oh shit moments
 
Warriors represent ;)

I stand by warrior, but at the same time a well played shadow knight is better in EQ then a well played warrior.

Both better then dirty nasty pallies
 
a well played sk isnt a well played sk if you make a mistake ;P sk has so many save my ass buttons its not even funny
 
I've tanked with warrior and sk, and there is absolutely no comparison because the sk will require gearing. The warrior doesn't require gearing that well, because the discs and AA are so damn good. Its extremely noticeable when you pull 5-7 tier2 EoK mobs into camp and see how they handle the initial part of the pull into camp before the mobs are locked down. Gear both exactly the same and see how they stand up, the warrior will be able to tank like 3-4 mobs more than the sk easily.


If you want to spend oodles of time getting good augs and gear, go with sk.


If you want to gear subpar and function decently (not extremely well), then go warrior. If you gear your warrior beyond decently it will be a beast. The AA's and discs are so damn good for tanking requires hardly any gearing. You could be wearing TDS gear I bet in EoK and tank tier1 EoK as a warrior, try that with an sk, it won't work.
 
Lol.... save my ass buttons.... war dont need em.... they just Wade into Battle ae taunt... fight.... keep fighting... pop a disc... keep fighting.... hold agro better... and did i mention.... they keep fighting..... they dont need to lay on their backs like ho's in heat they go till the healer goes oom... they dont care to pull 1.... pull em all.... they dont need to do anything but soak damage (which they do in spades above and beyond any other class out there) and hold agro which they do easier and better.
 
I agree that a war is by far the best tank, but I can not get KA or even autowar to come close to doing what I can when I manually play. I find the warrior team dead quickly if I let them afk without clearing initial spawns first.

Do any of you have a good KA/melee file you could share to make it a little better?
 
I am completely split on this one, I LOVE my Sks, I mean I freaking love them! but my Warrior can take a hit and I can raid with him as MT as well. So if you just farm, SK, if you want to do more then just farm then Warrior.
 
I think all the group content can be done by any tank class. There is a threshold though for incoming DPS on the tank where heals are just not going to keep up and a shadowknight or paladin will fold to that well before a warrior.

If you're careful, you'll rarely ever see that. If you never do new stuff like RoS at level 105 in EoK gear, it won't matter too much. But if you want to run head first into hard content before everyone is leveled and geared up for it, a warrior may actually make that a success while the other tanks go splat.

For trivial farm mode grind status camps, any tank will do and a paladin or shadowknight have some useful utilities that makes them more useful. Hell, if you gear up a ranger well enough, you can use a ranger as tank for all the group content in EoK.
 
As far as ini is concerned i have an ini out there i use on my lesser warriors when pulling. Other than that autowarrior suffices. Never have a problem. The pullers are tbm geared just farmers. My main war i have is t2 eok and good augs and some chases. The difference between him and a raid sk would suprise u... he lives sk dies or feigns (tough pulls). Either way he is on his back like a ho in heat. I dont doubt that an sk is controlled better than a warrior in kiss but i do not run my mt on kiss. I use kiss as my group (healer and dps) i play my warrior just like i always have.
 
Razkle said:
I am completely split on this one, I LOVE my Sks, I mean I freaking love them! but my Warrior can take a hit and I can raid with him as MT as well. So if you just farm, SK, if you want to do more then just farm then Warrior.
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Blasphemy I raid with my SK all day long, can MT anything in TBM! He is completely EoK raid geared tho so I guess that plays a big factor.
 
NOT saying SK cannot raid tank, just saying for MOST raids you want the warrior to MT.... My main sk is my 2nd favorite toon next to my Wiz of course...
 
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WELL, I broke into eok with augest armor and no augs and heroic gear on the rest of the crew , we are almost all in t1 now so a sk must not be too bad :)
 
Sk are only good for tradeskill item farming:D I run 5 heroic tradeskill bitches just for that.
 
for an sk to raid tank it takes more resources to do it, its a bigger strain on ur guild. and overall a waste of any warrior around. Resources = at least 1 more cleric more likely 2 to 3 more and more armor support over time = less time for guild to play and lvl (cause they have to handhold the sk supposed main tank) and less dps for the raids (cause of the cleric issue)... as for that statement why dont u just make a ranger mt, bout the same , lmao or a monk... wait i got it, a necro they have many get out of death buttons
 
I second a warrior. SK's are just to slow at everything with cast times and stuff, + a decently geared dual wielding warrior with Wurmy and chanter/BST buffs will DPS on par with Razkle's EoKnuke on a wizard in raid gear with the same buffs.
SK's are great for swarming and solo/molo farming however, and probably more useful in a 2-box or 3-box setup. Use Emericas enchanter INI and you will never have problems with AE aggro and that sort of crap.

If you're concerned about snap aggro, get a few Rune proc augs and your problems will be forever solved.
 
Nothing in particular, I just like squirreling away well-written guides for reference and I haven't seen a solid one for sks or wars for a few xpacs.
 
toots said:
Nothing in particular, I just like squirreling away well-written guides for reference and I haven't seen a solid one for sks or wars for a few xpacs.
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I can take a shot at an SK guide, been my main a looooong time. It will be mostly from a group tank point of view though. I'll either pm ya of start a new thread so I dont shat up this wonderful debate with useful info or anything lol.
 
well i can definately provide warrior tips if u want them, ive played a war since beta. not much on writing but if u want tips u got em
 
Rich (BB code): 
/if (${SpawnCount[${Group.Puller} corpse]} && ${Me.XTarget} < 1) /multiline ; /timed 5 ; /squelch /tar ${Group.Puller} ; /timed 5 ; /alt act ${Me.AltAbility[Summon Remains].ID}
 
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