Guide - Shei Vinitras - ToL Mission - New Zlandi level easiness farm?

[durango773]

I don't see a way for lua script to interrupt casting, nothing I have tried seems to work. /stopcast, /sit, /keypress x, nothing works

there is a Lua for this? or AHR?.. should have the command structure.. also LEM (tm) has some prebuilt events, might already have one.

Also, there are Lua people who can most likely just give you the command :p

 

[njk70]

Sorry, mq2events for the cure.

 

[njk70]

Finally won. I got to get the cures reliable before this will be easy. Bard mez was spot on this run.

 

[dpanaben]

I keeps wiping at 2% even no add on aggro list....=.=a

 

[njk70]

Is it locked at 2%, if so then you might be killing it too fast. Otherwise there is nothing new happening that I noticed. I didn't even burn, it was a LONG fight for me when I configured my group for defense/healing rather than DPS.

 

[knave23]

Yeah I generally get it to 2% and it locks until a few seconds before the first healer dude reaches him. Always feels artificially closer than it should be, but whatever I guess

 

[Tangtown]

I keeps wiping at 2% even no add on aggro list....=.=a

I doubt this is the issue, but I have had the adds spawn down in the little nook at the bottom of the steps where the blue guys are. Very rare though.

 

[Sic]

Rare, but definitely can get a healer add non aggro under the platform. Really dumb

 

[FrankFlyWillCutYou]

Anyone experiencing a lot of bugs in this mission recently? Seems like randomly shit will just not work in the instance. Have now had 2 where my Bard single target mez just refused to finish casting, so I wiped. Was manually running the Bard.

Also just had one where mq2eskay Tank mode wasn't doing anything. No casting, attack, AA usage. Nothing. Switched back to Manual and back to Tank and still just sat there.

Pretty annoying.

EDIT: Cause of the mq2eskay issue was the plugin being paused, but not showing the "Paused" text overlay. Switched to the output tab and saw it was actually paused. So, answers that part at least...

 

[Sic]

Anyone experiencing a lot of bugs in this mission recently? Seems like randomly shit will just not work in the instance. Have now had 2 where my Bard single target mez just refused to finish casting, so I wiped. Was manually running the Bard.

Also just had one where mq2eskay Tank mode wasn't doing anything. No casting, attack, AA usage. Nothing. Switched back to Manual and back to Tank and still just sat there.

Pretty annoying.

EDIT: Cause of the mq2eskay issue was the plugin being paused, but not showing the "Paused" text overlay. Switched to the output tab and saw it was actually paused. So, answers that part at least...

The only way that is possible is if you paused it while your window is big, and then you resized your window smaller.

Also should consider using mq2status and doing a /dgae /status before pulling

 

[Trapper]

Anyone experiencing a lot of bugs in this mission recently? Seems like randomly shit will just not work in the instance. Have now had 2 where my Bard single target mez just refused to finish casting, so I wiped. Was manually running the Bard.

Also just had one where mq2eskay Tank mode wasn't doing anything. No casting, attack, AA usage. Nothing. Switched back to Manual and back to Tank and still just sat there.

Pretty annoying.

EDIT: Cause of the mq2eskay issue was the plugin being paused, but not showing the "Paused" text overlay. Switched to the output tab and saw it was actually paused. So, answers that part at least...

I had this happen to me the first time yesterday, what it ended up being was something with being inside the platform. but SK wouldn't do anything, I paused and tried to manually do it and noticed I was getting "you can not see target"

Ended up tanking it on Rog, SK died and rezzed.. when he popped in from the rez he was actually inside the platform, It let me just run out the side of the platform and run back up ramp to the boss and then was able to agro.

I have not tested this at all but I just started using MQ2Autosize, if it happened again I was going to see if it was maybe that.

 

[Sic]

the instance is chronically bad for mobs under the geometry

 

[FrankFlyWillCutYou]

The only way that is possible is if you paused it while your window is big, and then you resized your window smaller.

Also should consider using mq2status and doing a /dgae /status before pulling

I definitely could have paused it and then resized it for whatever reason. Hadn't heard of mq2status, but I'll take a look at it. Thanks!

 

[Medicman]

I'm not curing it, I'm not sure it is curable

I should have turned off attack, but didn't

Shaman can cure it.

 

[Sic]

yup.

 

[Psy]

For those who may need an Enchanter version of the script, here's what I use:

[CODE lang="lua" title="Shei Vinitras: Running With Shears"]local mq = require("mq")

while mq.TLO.Task('Shei Vinitras')()
do
if mq.TLO.SpawnCount("datiar xi tavuelim npc")() > 0 then
mq.cmd("/boxr Pause")

while mq.TLO.SpawnCount("datiar xi tavuelim npc")() > 0 do
mq.cmd("/tar datiar xi tavuelim npc")
mq.cmd('/cast "Addle"')
end

mq.cmd("/boxr Unpause")
end

mq.delay(10)
end[/CODE]

tyvm for the Lua. Was exactly what I needed. Tried this run several times and between playing the SK, trying to mez with enc and using dru/shm to cure, I was never able to finish. Finally did it tonight, so thank you! Felt good to win this one.

 

[Shadow]

tyvm for the lua. Was exactly what I needed. Tried this run several times and between playing the SK, trying to mez with enc and using dru/shm to cure, I was never able to finish. Finally did it tonight, so thank you! Felt good to win this one.

Check out the Lem version. https://www.redguides.com/community/threads/mighty-lua-event-manager.82347/ also one for Bard there too.

 

[Psy]

Check out the Lem version. https://www.redguides.com/community/threads/mighty-lua-event-manager.82347/ also one for Bard there too.

Thanks, I will!

 

[B_I_G__D_A_D_D_Y]

I know I'm late to the party here, but I'm just now attempting these group missions with my normal group of 120s. As mentioned in another post I have some of my group on a different computer using ISBoxer's computer-to-computer keystroke broadcasting rather than using any MQ components. I gathered a lot of help from this thread and just wanted to return the favor if anyone finds this useful.

My tank is using KA, as is one DPS class and my Shaman. My normal KA profiles work fine, and I just added an Event for the shaman to do the DT cures using an MQ2Event. (I cast the 110 cure since it's slightly faster casting for almost the same counters! And I cast it twice rather than wasting a spell slot to Blood of Mayong!)

[CODE title="Shaman Cure for Shei group mission"][SheiCure]
trigger=#1#Shei Vinitras shouts, '#2#, You are unworthy.'#3#
command=/multiline ; /g Curing; /timed 1 /mqp on ; /timed 2 /stopcast ; /timed 16 /cast "Blood of Tevik Rk. II" ; /timed 76 /cast "Blood of Tevik Rk. II" ; /timed 101 /mqp off
[/CODE]

Then I use a mapped ISBoxer keystroke to my 'chanter who has a corresponding social button...


Finally, my cleric also monitors that same keystroke and performs...


So I camera out with my tank and visually look for the alien to pop and then hit the keystroke that goes to the other PC and mezzes the alien and does a group cure and heal.

KissAssist and Mq2Events handles the rest just fine.

 

[dpanaben]

My bard cast mez on the alien once they aggroed, Is that possible to debuff them before they become aggro?

 

[Many_Whelps]

My bard cast mez on the alien once they aggroed, Is that possible to debuff them before they become aggro?

yes, you can manually target them and cast mez and they instantly die without ever agroing

 

[FB]

Hi All,
I have had a first go at Shei today, my group is 120 and I got her down to 20% comfortably, Bard Lua doing a great job at mezzing the adds. Then several other adds kept coming and healer Shei, often from 10% up to 20% or so. After 3 or 4 heals, my warrior ran out of disk and I failed.
Is there a way to deal with the healers? I read through the thread, but mostly people say just ignore them. That did not work for me, though.

 

[One Cool Trick]

Hi All,
I have had a first go at Shei today, my group is 120 and I got her down to 20% comfortably, Bard lua doing a great job at mezzing the adds. Then several other adds kept coming and healer Shei, often from 10% up to 20% or so. After 3 or 4 heals, my warrior ran out of disk and I failed.
Is there a way to deal with the healers? I read through the thread, but mostly people say just ignore them. That did not work for me, though.

By the time you come off Shei, you'd still probably lose in DPS after trying to down the healers, though they have smaller health pools... best bet, dps dps dps on Shei, mez/root adds, keep burning Shei and ignore the healers... I'm guessing it's either a group setup issue or gear issue here...

 

[FB]

By the time you come off Shei, you'd still probably lose in DPS after trying to down the healers, though they have smaller health pools... best bet, dps dps dps on Shei, mez/root adds, keep burning Shei and ignore the healers... I'm guessing it's either a group setup issue or gear issue here...

Quite possible, my group did 3.1m on Zlandi but only 1.5m dps on Shei. I guess I need to go upgrade some gear...

 

[One Cool Trick]

Quite possible, my group did 3.1m on Zlandi but only 1.5m dps on Shei. I guess I need to go upgrade some gear...

Zlandicar, you NEVER come off, Shei the ONLY person to come off will be your mez/root person (bard in your case)... otherwise, it's another straight burn pretty much... so it can be gear cause she is a level 124 boss (i believe)...

 

[Tangtown]

Hi All,
I have had a first go at Shei today, my group is 120 and I got her down to 20% comfortably, Bard lua doing a great job at mezzing the adds. Then several other adds kept coming and healer Shei, often from 10% up to 20% or so. After 3 or 4 heals, my warrior ran out of disk and I failed.
Is there a way to deal with the healers? I read through the thread, but mostly people say just ignore them. That did not work for me, though.

There is only 3 healers total. One option is to go full burn on one of the healers to avoid the 10% heal and fight through the other two healers. When I first started this mission I would harm touch the first healer and just fight through the heals of #2 & 3. As time goes on and you gear up, gain AA's, etc. you can just ignore the healers if they have a chance to come at all.

At this point in time my group can DPS him down to 2% so fast we have to wait for the aliens to pop, it seems like there is a set amount that need to spawn before you can kill Shei. Fastest we've gotten is around 72 seconds and I am doubtful it is possible to do it much faster. (would love to hear otherwise though)

 

[One Cool Trick]

There is only 3 healers total. One option is to go full burn on one of the healers to avoid the 10% heal and fight through the other two healers. When I first started this mission I would harm touch the first healer and just fight through the heals of #2 & 3. As time goes on and you gear up, gain AA's, etc. you can just ignore the healers if they have a chance to come at all.

At this point in time my group can DPS him down to 2% so fast we have to wait for the aliens to pop, it seems like there is a set amount that need to spawn before you can kill Shei. Fastest we've gotten is around 72 seconds and I am doubtful it is possible to do it much faster. (would love to hear otherwise though)

I didn't think there was a total count, but you MUST kill all the ORANGE ALIENS that have spawned BEFORE you can drop her below 2% and ultimately kill her... that said, normally I burn to 2% then AE mez and/or AE root (and then deal with any singles that keep me from unlocking her 2%)

 

[Tangtown]

I didn't think there was a total count, but you MUST kill all the ORANGE ALIENS that have spawned BEFORE you can drop her below 2% and ultimately kill her... that said, normally I burn to 2% then AE mez and/or AE root (and then deal with any singles that keep me from unlocking her 2%)

I am at the point now where we can get him down so fast he will lock with no aliens up and then we have to wait for them to spawn. I'd have to check my logs to confirm but I would say it's a set number required.

 

[One Cool Trick]

I am at the point now where we can get him down so fast he will lock with no aliens up and then we have to wait for them to spawn. I'd have to check my logs to confirm but I would say it's a set number required.

When you say "wait for THEM to spawn" do you mean ONE or many... the reason I ask, if you burn to 2% it will AUTOMATICALLY LOCK regardless... it's almost as if you must allow the alien to explode so-to-speak upon its death to break the lock shield that shei puts up... so if you were truly burning to 2% with ZERO spawns, then i would posit two questions 1. geometrically spawn (under you, in the column, bug still?) or 2. did you ONLY kill ONE alien after 2% and she unlocked immediately?

Otherwise, I'm still sticking to my statement that it's NOT a total number of Aliens, but rather ONE after she AUTO locks @ 2% *shrug*.... prove me wrong :P (truly a playful challenge here)

 

[Psy]

I am at the point now where we can get him down so fast he will lock with no aliens up and then we have to wait for them to spawn. I'd have to check my logs to confirm but I would say it's a set number required.

Agreed, as same here. I actually stopped burning with my 6 crew all together. Just straight DPS, let the chanter (cwtn plugin) mez and let Shei get healed twice, sometimes a third time. Shaman (CWTN) and Druid (KA) have no problem keeping the SK tank alive and curing the DOT. This one works best slow and steady for me and we drop her everytime. Not as fast as Zlandi, but it's stready.

 

[Tangtown]

When you say "wait for THEM to spawn" do you mean ONE or many... the reason I ask, if you burn to 2% it will AUTOMATICALLY LOCK regardless... it's almost as if you must allow the alien to explode so-to-speak upon its death to break the lock shield that shei puts up... so if you were truly burning to 2% with ZERO spawns, then i would posit two questions 1. geometrically spawn (under you, in the column, bug still?) or 2. did you ONLY kill ONE alien after 2% and she unlocked immediately?

Otherwise, I'm still sticking to my statement that it's NOT a total number of Aliens, but rather ONE after she AUTO locks @ 2% *shrug*.... prove me wrong :P (truly a playful challenge here)

What I mean is we get shei to 2%, I aoe mez and kill every little guy, we keep burning his hp doesn't drop past 2%, an add pops, I mez, repeat until shei decides we've killed enough little guys.

 

[Psy]

What I mean is we get shei to 2%, I aoe mez and kill every little guy, we keep burning his hp doesn't drop past 2%, an add pops, I mez, repeat until shei decides we've killed enough little guys.

I think there is a certain number of fathead that need to die before the 2% unlocks and then she dies. I'll try to count them the next couple runs and see if it's consistent.

Edit 9/21/22 - 11 spawned, 10 killed. 10th one unlocked the 2%
Edit 9/23/22 - 8 Spawned, 8 killed and she died like a dog, a beautiful dog.

 

[Tangtown]

I just ran through my logs, going back the last 6 runs (didn't go any farther as I believe it was enough evidence) and ran Shei again just now to confirm. Looks like 8 is the absolute minimum number of Datiar xi tavuelim that need to spawn for Shei to be killed. The fight tonight he was at 2% after 5 Datiar mez's and we had to wait until 3 more spawned. Shei's HP didn't drop from 2% until the 8th one was killed.

 

[Psy]

I just ran through my logs, going back the last 6 runs (didn't go any farther as I believe it was enough evidence) and ran Shei again just now to confirm. Looks like 8 is the absolute minimum number of Datiar xi tavuelim that need to spawn for Shei to be killed. The fight tonight he was at 2% after 5 Datiar mez's and we had to wait until 3 more spawned. Shei's HP didn't drop from 2% until the 8th one was killed.

That's what I figured as well, was just going to verify one more run to be certain. Thanks for sharing!

 

[One Cool Trick]

I just ran through my logs, going back the last 6 runs (didn't go any farther as I believe it was enough evidence) and ran Shei again just now to confirm. Looks like 8 is the absolute minimum number of Datiar xi tavuelim that need to spawn for Shei to be killed. The fight tonight he was at 2% after 5 Datiar mez's and we had to wait until 3 more spawned. Shei's HP didn't drop from 2% until the 8th one was killed.

Good deal! Maybe I just didn't keep count because I don't bother "burning CDs" on Shei anymore LOL... she's too easy to bother LOL...

 

[Cedr]

Anyone experiencing a lot of bugs in this mission recently? Seems like randomly shit will just not work in the instance. Have now had 2 where my Bard single target mez just refused to finish casting, so I wiped. Was manually running the Bard.

Also just had one where mq2eskay Tank mode wasn't doing anything. No casting, attack, AA usage. Nothing. Switched back to Manual and back to Tank and still just sat there.

Pretty annoying.

EDIT: Cause of the mq2eskay issue was the plugin being paused, but not showing the "Paused" text overlay. Switched to the output tab and saw it was actually paused. So, answers that part at least...

I've had a LOT of problems with this while using mq2twist and driving with my bard. I eventually had to make hotkeys that use the /sing command to get twist to play nice.

 

[Cedr]

Hi All,
I have had a first go at Shei today, my group is 120 and I got her down to 20% comfortably, Bard lua doing a great job at mezzing the adds. Then several other adds kept coming and healer Shei, often from 10% up to 20% or so. After 3 or 4 heals, my warrior ran out of disk and I failed.
Is there a way to deal with the healers? I read through the thread, but mostly people say just ignore them. That did not work for me, though.

I'm afraid you're going to need better gear / dps.

I am at the point now where we can get him down so fast he will lock with no aliens up and then we have to wait for them to spawn. I'd have to check my logs to confirm but I would say it's a set number required.

I'm thankfully at the same point. I actually find it easier to just set the tank, set the group, say the phrase and walk away from the keyboard at this point. Burn just means I use my cooldowns for no real reason.

 

[Tangtown]

I'm thankfully at the same point. I actually find it easier to just set the tank, set the group, say the phrase and walk away from the keyboard at this point. Burn just means I use my cooldowns for no real reason.

I am always pushing to hit new PBs with DPS, unfortunately Shei is the best boss for this. I say unfortunately because I need to mez with the Enchanter so his DPS ends up being terrible. Also the waiting for Datiar to pop at the end messes up the parse.

 

[Many_Whelps]

Hi All,
I have had a first go at Shei today, my group is 120 and I got her down to 20% comfortably, Bard lua doing a great job at mezzing the adds. Then several other adds kept coming and healer Shei, often from 10% up to 20% or so. After 3 or 4 heals, my warrior ran out of disk and I failed.
Is there a way to deal with the healers? I read through the thread, but mostly people say just ignore them. That did not work for me, though.

There is a finite number of healers (5 total iirc), so they will eventually stop spawning. Your tank needs to be beefy enough to survive they entire fight, which is going to be about 150% of boss hp.

 

[Cedr]

I am always pushing to hit new PBs with DPS, unfortunately Shei is the best boss for this. I say unfortunately because I need to mez with the Enchanter so his DPS ends up being terrible. Also the waiting for Datiar to pop at the end messes up the parse.

I go bard instead of chanter (in general) because of the utility for travel (how does anyone travel at less than 84 velocity and double invis!?) Bard doesn't have any problem mezzing, but it does mess up his chants later in the fight.