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Guide - Shei Vinitras - ToL Mission - New Zlandi level easiness farm?

I might not understand the mechanics BUT this is the first mission I was like oh DPS doesn’t help. As far as I can tell you have to have a few rounds of the Mez mobs and it life locks at 2%. Unless I’m missing something.
So what happens is that the mez mobs are supposed to spawn at specific hp intervals on the boss. There are a defined number of mez mobs. However, because EQ is EQ, the script that triggers the spawn lags behind what is happening on the screen. So most groups can dps through several hp thresholds without the mez mob showing up until the script catches up and eventually starts spawning them. You are intended to clear all of them out, thus the lock at 2% to prevent super high dps groups just blowing up the boss and not playing the mechanic. At the start of the fight, the hp thresholds are further apart. The last half of the fight, they get tighter and tighter. If you slow roll dps from 50% to 0, you wont' get so far ahead of the script and thus have fewer mez mobs showing up at the same time.
 
So what happens is that the mez mobs are supposed to spawn at specific hp intervals on the boss. There are a defined number of mez mobs. However, because EQ is EQ, the script that triggers the spawn lags behind what is happening on the screen. So most groups can dps through several hp thresholds without the mez mob showing up until the script catches up and eventually starts spawning them. You are intended to clear all of them out, thus the lock at 2% to prevent super high dps groups just blowing up the boss and not playing the mechanic. At the start of the fight, the hp thresholds are further apart. The last half of the fight, they get tighter and tighter. If you slow roll dps from 50% to 0, you wont' get so far ahead of the script and thus have fewer mez mobs showing up at the same time.

Makes sense. Also answers why occasioanlly Its fats for me. I think sometimes I’ve bugged script so bad with my dps (i can hit over 6million if not close to 7) because sometimes the life lock seems to be gone after 2 Mez rounds.
 
That sounds promising. I thought I was getting some cures in, but I didn't set up anything special so its probably not enough. I had a few runs that did better than others and perhaps those the tank didn't get hit with debuff as soon as the other runs did. The bard is mezzing the aliens ok, so I think I am good there. So emote managing is what is needed. What type of druid or bard cure works?
 
That sounds promising. I thought I was getting some cures in, but I didn't set up anything special so its probably not enough. I had a few runs that did better than others and perhaps those the tank didn't get hit with debuff as soon as the other runs did. The bard is mezzing the aliens ok, so I think I am good there. So emote managing is what is needed. What type of druid or bard cure works?

Use the Druid for curing. It should be corruption based ones and should have a TOL version and a COV/tov era one (I usually load two). don’t play druids so no help on the spell itself
 
Sanctified Blood Rk. II for single target, and
Nightwhisper's Breeze Rk. II for group looks like they will do the trick and I don't have those loaded. I should have looked more carefully at the details. I probably won't get to try tonight, but maybe this weekend.
 
Makes sense. Also answers why occasioanlly Its fats for me. I think sometimes I’ve bugged script so bad with my dps (i can hit over 6million if not close to 7) because sometimes the life lock seems to be gone after 2 Mez rounds.
Wow! 6M DPS is fantastic. Are you a raider? What's your group makeup?
 
Wow! 6M DPS is fantastic. Are you a raider? What's your group makeup?

So the group has full TOL raid gear. 6m is like crits going perfect. But it’s Pal, shaman, brd, bst, two rogues, Full TOL gear. I run a sk and two ber group also need to go back and see what thye are at but the rogues are definitely doing more. Also not sure but if they just made it so under in this mission (test patch is confusing) then I might be able ot hit 6mil regularly with the paladin Now.
 
Thats like 4 times what my little group puts out. So sad.

Well keep in mind it’s raid gear And modern raid gear. I believe TOV raid gear is about the same ast TOL group gear these days. And back then you could hit about 4million with right group.

The thing of it is ber/rogue and to a lesser extent mage/necro are just so much further ahead of the other dps classes and then all of them are that much Further ahead of mercs.
 
I got Shei to about 28% on first try with cures up, warrior still went down not sure on timing as I was playing the druid to keep cures going as I wasn't trusting KA to do it. I'll work on the cure automation and next time watch the warrior more closely to see if I can help him out a little. Still several things to try, I think its within range of my mini group tho.
 
I play my cleric to cure manually. I only use rgmercs. I should probably make a switch to kiss I just havnt gotten around to it. ONly time I fail is when cleric goes down from the adds. My enchanter takes care of adds but not until they are at the top of ramp. ONe thing I have found that helps me beat this every time is casting the vet aa armor of experience. this helps group survive those adds .....I have beaten this event every time when that aa is up but its recast is 18 hours. Just tossing my 2 cents out incase that helps anyone. I also dont use one of my dps until the end....this slows the adds but i dont think its a necessity.
 
I got Shei to about 28% on first try with cures up, warrior still went down not sure on timing as I was playing the druid to keep cures going as I wasn't trusting KA to do it. I'll work on the cure automation and next time watch the warrior more closely to see if I can help him out a little. Still several things to try, I think its within range of my mini group tho.
Probably stating the obvious but make sure to turn auto-attack off on your tank once you get the reverse DS on you. Makes a huge difference.
 
Probably stating the obvious but make sure to turn auto-attack off on your tank once you get the reverse DS on you. Makes a huge difference.
I wasn't doing that. I could probably make an event to turn mq2war off when its up, i don't think it has a command to do that. But thanks for the tip.
 
I play my cleric to cure manually. I only use rgmercs. I should probably make a switch to kiss I just havnt gotten around to it. ONly time I fail is when cleric goes down from the adds. My enchanter takes care of adds but not until they are at the top of ramp. ONe thing I have found that helps me beat this every time is casting the vet aa armor of experience. this helps group survive those adds .....I have beaten this event every time when that aa is up but its recast is 18 hours. Just tossing my 2 cents out incase that helps anyone. I also dont use one of my dps until the end....this slows the adds but i dont think its a necessity.
Thanks for that tip, sounds worth it.
 
I wasn't doing that. I could probably make an event to turn mq2war off when its up, i don't think it has a command to do that. But thanks for the tip.
Here's what I use. Just copy/paste into your react file. Works like a charm for me.

ViniMark:
action: /attack off
condition: >-
${Me.Song[Mark of Vinitras].ID} > 0 && ${Zone.ShortName.Equal[akhevatwo_mission]}
&& ${Me.Combat}
 
I wasn't doing that. I could probably make an event to turn mq2war off when its up, i don't think it has a command to do that. But thanks for the tip.
manual mode, you can just turn off attack - you're not going to do combat stuff, but you don't have to turn off mq2war
 
You rock! This made the mission a million times easier
Where is this code placed? I am constantly getting my ass kicked by Shei and I have a pretty powerful group. I don't get it to be honest after watching SiC's video and how fast he took him down. So I am open to any suggestions on how to beat Shei. Grp= 120 SK, 120, Shaman, 120 Mage, 120 Enchanter, 119 Beastlord, and 118 Bard. Using CWTN MQ2 Plugins on all but Bard who is using Kissassist.ini file.
 
If you don't want to mess with Lua, here is a simple React (MQ2React) to auto-banish adds.
This one uses my Shaman's root, but you can easily adjust it to use mez or whatever.

[CODE lang="yaml" title="Auto-banish adds"] SHMShei:
action: >-
/multiline ; /react disable SHMShei; /stopcast; /timed 5 /shm pause
on; /timed 7 /stopcast; /timed 10 /target datiar xi tavuelim; /timed
13 /cast 13; /timed 45 /shm pause off; /timed 50 /react enable SHMShei
condition: "${Spawn[npc datiar xi tavuelim radius 60].ID}"[/CODE]
How, or what program do I use to input this into the MQ2React file?
 
How, or what program do I use to input this into the MQ2React file?
I use MS Code for the .yaml files used by mq2react, but you could use Notepad as well. You'd just need to ensure that the indents at the beginning of each line is done properly.
 
How, or what program do I use to input this into the MQ2React file?



use vscode

Looking for a Notepad++ Alternative?
You want Visual Studio Code:

some recommended extensions include:
Rainbow brackets
indent-rainbow
vscodemq2
emmylua

Here is a windows keyboard shortcuts pdf:
 
I use MS Code for the .yaml files used by mq2react, but you could use Notepad as well. You'd just need to ensure that the indents at the beginning of each line is done properly.
When I open MQ2React in Notepad++ it comes up as a bunch of Gobbledygoop! Am I missing something?
 
When I open MQ2React in Notepad++ it comes up as a bunch of Gobbledygoop! Am I missing something?
you don't want to open up mq2react.dll - that is wrong
you want to open up your mq2react.yaml in your config folder
 
you don't want to open up mq2react.dll - that is wrong
you want to open up your mq2react.yaml in your config folder
I don't see any .yaml files in the config folder ...are they hidden files. The only .yaml files that I can find is ZoneConnections, Easyfind, and
MQ2Anonymize
 
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You probably have never used mq2react plugin so the configuration file doesn't exist.
 
In game, type /plugin mq2react
That should load the plugin and create the yaml file for you.
You may need to tell windows to show hidden files and display file extensions too.
 
use vscode

Looking for a Notepad++ Alternative?
You want Visual Studio Code:

some recommended extensions include:
Rainbow brackets
indent-rainbow
vscodemq2
emmylua

Here is a windows keyboard shortcuts pdf:

Sublime Text is also a good choice for just editing config files. It's more lightweight than VS
 
I'm just not making any progress on this with this half group. I got cures handled with the mq2events thing and the druid, works great. Switch to two cleric mercs and they still won't keep the warrior up after resolute stand and finish the fight wear off. Vintras Mark is on all the time so I can't really avoid the DS unless there is a different one that is getting me. Is there a way for MQ2War to stop hitting but keep using agro AA/taunt?

Honestly my first try after working on cures was my best effort. Maybe I'll reconfigure druid to heal more.
 
I'm just not making any progress on this with this half group. I got cures handled with the mq2events thing and the druid, works great. Switch to two cleric mercs and they still won't keep the warrior up after resolute stand and finish the fight wear off. Vintras Mark is on all the time so I can't really avoid the DS unless there is a different one that is getting me. Is there a way for MQ2War to stop hitting but keep using agro AA/taunt?

Honestly my first try after working on cures was my best effort. Maybe I'll reconfigure druid to heal more.

You meantioned druid + 2 cleric mercs. Whats your group composition again? Sounds like you don’t have dps. DPS truly solves pretty much anything group or raid. It’s the perfect work around for almost any mechanic.
 
Druid/War(max, t3 tol gear)/Bard + Mercs (Rogue/Rogue/Cleric). Non-burn DPS about 1.1mil. The two cleric solution didn't seem to get me anywhere, making the druid heal more is helping but something is happening to make the warrior just plummet after some point. He is being cured quickly so just has Vintras Mark on him. I'm going to pump up the druid healing even more.
 
Druid/War(max, t3 tol gear)/Bard + Mercs (Rogue/Rogue/Cleric). Non-burn DPS about 1.1mil. The two cleric solution didn't seem to get me anywhere, making the druid heal more is helping but something is happening to make the warrior just plummet after some point. He is being cured quickly so just has Vintras Mark on him. I'm going to pump up the druid healing even more.

So end of the day DPS is your issue. One rogue could do 1million dps on its own.
 
Best attempt yet. Got him to 19%. What got me at the end was datiar adds, if the bard gets a resist on the mez the warrior can't take the add if the discs are down. On this try he survived a dip into purple before bard mez took and recovered and tanked ok until the next one came and the bard got a resist again. I think I will try to add some reacts to get druid to also try to root. Maybe between them they can get poofed quicker. Can also try not letting mq2war burn on engage and save last stand until a bit later. So still a few more things to try, plus glyphs and the long refresh AAs. Probably won't try again until next weekend, blew a lot of may day on this. I think we will get there, but doesn't sound promising I will get through the other missions.

I'd love to level my zerker and rogue up and use them as they were approaching that level last expansion, but my computer setup is too weird and limited now to run more than three toons. I don't see how I can replace any of the toons I am using. :(

On further thought I am pretty sure that adding a react for the druid to root adds will solve the problem. Currently I am just letting the bard mez but I don't think that happens until the adds show up on xtar so by then they have a whack or two at warrior and if there is a resist he takes even more hits. So I just need to catch them earlier. I think. If that works then I think I can win with just about any DPS. Just have to wait until next weekend probably, grrr.
 
Currently I am just letting the bard mez but I don't think that happens until the adds show up on xtar
I feel like this might be one of your bigger problems. There's a Lua earlier in this thread that watches for the spawns, not the activations. There are a few seconds between where you can take them out before they do anything. Like you said, if you wait for them to activate and show up on xtarget it's too late.
 
Took a while to get the events/scripts right. Having druid do both caused some problems if the need to cure and root overlapped and I made some mistakes in the bard Lua script, the one earlier in this thread was fine. Curing is still not 100% being done, not sure why, maybe KA isn't pausing fast enough or something... so I had to click over a couple times to get the cure in. Will fiddle with that.

Did I win? Nope. Got back to 11% after the last add healed Shei. Warrior went into purple several times and got a druid call once but just couldn't keep it going. It was a really slow roll fight, I didn't burn until way late in the fight. I really can't get the warrior to tank any better... its now full T3 ToL group gear, there are a few augs I can camp but that's about it.

I'll play with the druid healing config some more and crank it up. Not sure if I will try again tomorrow or not. I'll call it progress tho.
 
Dont know if it will help in your case, but added this to my react file, and made 20 seaport Cure-All for each of my 5 characters.

I cannot DPS him as fast as SIC, so 5 healers will get in on my runs.

YAML:
  SheiCure2:
    action: "/casting seaport Cure-All"
    condition: >-
      ${FindItem[seaport Cure-All].TimerReady}==0 && ${Me.Buff[Venomous
      Touch of Vinitras].ID]} && ${Me.Buff[Venomous Touch of Vinitras].Duration}<10000
 
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Dont know if it will help in your case, but added this to my react file, and made 20 seaport Cure-All for each of my 5 characters.

I cannot DPS him as fast as SIC, so 5 healers will get in on my runs.

YAML:
  SheiCure2:
    action: "/casting seaport Cure-All"
    condition: >-
      ${FindItem[seaport Cure-All].TimerReady}==0 && ${Me.Buff[Venomous
      Touch of Vinitras].ID]} && ${Me.Buff[Venomous Touch of Vinitras].Duration}<10000
I wasn't aware of its existence. I will definitely try it to at least see if it helps, thank you!
 
Regarding my druid casting cures. I get the group message that I am curing, but if KA is in the middle of casting it seems like it just doesn't do anything. It seems like /boxr pause isn't being reliable (maybe) or maybe there is a delay. What if its in the middle of a 3s cast, it doesn't seem to interrupt casting.
 
Regarding my druid casting cures. I get the group message that I am curing, but if KA is in the middle of casting it seems like it just doesn't do anything. It seems like /boxr pause isn't being reliable (maybe) or maybe there is a delay. What if its in the middle of a 3s cast, it doesn't seem to interrupt casting.
I haven't been able to get automated curing to work consistently enough so I just manually /mqp, target, cure, /mqp without any macro. Not sure if it is lag or what but any events or KA tweaks I have done will not work 100% of the time.
 
If you have a bard, the easiest way i found to do this (think i mentioned earlier in thread), just hand play the bard. they can cure, and cc, and just hand twist in your favorite jams between mechanics.
 
I'll add curing with the bard to the list of things to try. I would really like to get the curing automated just out of principle and for future use. It should be possible to get it consistent.

No cure-all potion for sale at the moment and my alchemy friends aren't sure if they are high enough skill to make in large quantities but will try later.

Also am going to switch my Bard KA to sic's. His is much more defensive-oriented, I had added more DPS but for this (and probably other missions) I bet his will be more useful.
 
I don't see a way for Lua script to interrupt casting, nothing I have tried seems to work. /stopcast, /sit, /keypress x, nothing works
 
Guide - Shei Vinitras - ToL Mission - New Zlandi level easiness farm?

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