that would imply they test on beta though. We all know that dont happen.
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only time will tell.
no, no, and no, and no
eqlegends is a different game (not just a server)
mq doesn't work for eq legends
there is not mq for p99
the mq devs dont come from emu -> eqlegends, but some of the emu devs are
sorry to hear that - it is a pretty reasonsable expectation that it might be taking some extra days - we've not had a live patch for just as long in the past.
but hopefully if you change your mind we'll still be here
be well
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Ehh, I have been involved in the testing on Beta, so at least some testing occurs. Whether DB pays attention and fixes all of the bugs found? That I definitely feel does not always happen
I find the situation quite complex, and I think a lot of us feel it without necessarily being able to clearly put it into words. For me, EverQuest is no longer just a “game” in the traditional sense. It’s not simply about discovering, enjoying, and playing anymore. There’s an attachment that has built up over time, something almost emotional that goes beyond the gameplay itself. And that’s where it gets tricky: the game is evolving, the population is changing, and to keep enjoying it, we end up considering solutions like MQ or EQEmu servers. But each of these options comes with its own compromises.
MQ allows us to keep accessing a lot of the content, but it inevitably changes how the game is played. EQEmu can offer a different experience, sometimes closer to certain aspects we value, but it also has its own limitations, especially when it comes to content evolution. I’m saying this from experience: I’ve used MQ, multi-boxed, set up EQEmu servers, and I’ve been playing EverQuest for almost 25 years.
So it feels like we’re all navigating this “meta” in our own way, trying to find a balance between what we love about the game and the current constraints. And at the end of the day, yes, the frustration is understandable given the situation. But at some point, we also need to be honest with ourselves: either we scatter into alternative solutions like EQEmu, or we make the effort to help the community renew itself on live servers despite DBG’s decisions.
All my support to RG keeping all of this on the track. We'll see where it goes, just be patient.
MQ allows us to keep accessing a lot of the content, but it inevitably changes how the game is played. EQEmu can offer a different experience, sometimes closer to certain aspects we value, but it also has its own limitations, especially when it comes to content evolution. I’m saying this from experience: I’ve used MQ, multi-boxed, set up EQEmu servers, and I’ve been playing EverQuest for almost 25 years.
So it feels like we’re all navigating this “meta” in our own way, trying to find a balance between what we love about the game and the current constraints. And at the end of the day, yes, the frustration is understandable given the situation. But at some point, we also need to be honest with ourselves: either we scatter into alternative solutions like EQEmu, or we make the effort to help the community renew itself on live servers despite DBG’s decisions.
All my support to RG keeping all of this on the track. We'll see where it goes, just be patient.
There are a number of posts that say it is being worked on and might (will) take a bit longer than in the past. New team of folks trying their best to make it happen.
Test is basically just another special ruleset server like any other except the special ruleset is it gets less support and is free gold status. It's really not used for testing in the way you may be thinking.
People play on test and pay the same Redguides sub as people that play on live servers. It also gives people the opportunity to try some of the paid resources before pulling the trigger for live.
I've played on test for over 20 years. I maintained active subs for live accounts most of that time as well. You could count the number of bugs I've submitted on zero hands.
Keep up the great work dev team.
I am willing to wait for the new dev team to understand, test, and implement the update to live. Just keep it up, and be careful of burnout.
On a side note, I just checked the stats on a Live Server, and the population has been cut in half. Just an interesting tidbit of information.
I am willing to wait for the new dev team to understand, test, and implement the update to live. Just keep it up, and be careful of burnout.
On a side note, I just checked the stats on a Live Server, and the population has been cut in half. Just an interesting tidbit of information.
Given the title of this thread even if we get an update this patch we will get limited updates in the future. Are people really using VV on EMU's? I thought the EMU crowd was focused on true box classic servers like P99 / Quarm and that other EMU servers tended to have very low populations while everyone on live seems to be boxing
At one time EMU may have only been as you said, and those older ones like P99 made a niche for players that enjoy the only older content or TLP style. They as we know also had a nod from DBG. But many people pushed forward and fleshed out expansion by expansion to what we have now which is Dragons of Norrath. This will not stop, its simply as it stands right now, and we have a lot of uncharted things, but to get to ToV is very possible, to even get to ToB is not an impossible thing. The new shift from the MQ team from Live to EMU will provide things EMU never had before, but same as with the new Live MQ team.. they need time. All of this just happened what 2 weeks or so ago? Live will do their thing and once they do, we may see a normal patching as we became accustomed to, EMU team will bring a LOT of goodness. Also, don't think of EMU as only MMO type servers to jump onto, its ALSO a personal EMU and with MQ you can play the game as a 6/12/whatever number man team/raid. Its up to you. Many people say 'its only to DoN though..I don;t wanna play that' I did say it.. but then I tried, and it was still EQ. I really enjoyed it and did things I DO not do on Live, like realize how LDoN was still nice and very viable. Not having Defiant was actually good to give me accomplishment. That said.. its YOUR EQ, if you want defiant, its up to you to allow it. And before you know it.. the potential..past DoN will be a reality in the way many hope.
Similar to just reading a headline, thread titles often don't tell the full story. Browse the forums a bit, there a few threads that will get you caught up.
P99 is pretty much what you think it is. Most other Emu servers are not P99. People use MQ of various flavors to solo or even run whole 72 character raids on Emu servers.
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Very unfortunate turn of events. I figured this 26 year adventure would have to end at some point. I more envisioned them turning off the Servers than this end but still not unexpected.
There is no way I can box effectively without MQ and I could never go back to the LFG days. Im sure Emu is nice for nostalgia but with no new content and being miles behind the real game, I just dont have an interest there.
Much thanks to all of the Devs and contributors who made this game truly playable with their hard work on MQ for so many fun years.
There is no way I can box effectively without MQ and I could never go back to the LFG days. Im sure Emu is nice for nostalgia but with no new content and being miles behind the real game, I just dont have an interest there.
Much thanks to all of the Devs and contributors who made this game truly playable with their hard work on MQ for so many fun years.
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Pretty sure they don't listen to them either.
It's a rabbit hole that will require a little effort from you to get going. You can not bring your existing EQ characters to an Emu server.
It's really not too difficult to get into and offers a range of experiences depending on what server you choose to play on.
If you would like to give Emu a try I'd start in either the Emu section of these forums or this place for real self starters.
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I use VV on Emus, several different ones. There are a lot of people who seem to use a kind of MQ spinoff called E3 but I prefer VV. There are bots on emulator too (a bit like Mercs) which are pretty good. But they don't even come close to the control MQ gives. I am a big fan of KissAssist. I've used it on Live and most Emus. I wouldn't play without MQ tbh.
When people talk about E3, they typically mean E3N. Its not a spinoff of MQ of any sort. Its an automation suite just like KissAssist... just not offered here at RG. It uses ini based configuration just like KA and its very capable. If you know what files you need from Rekka's package, you can run it using VV MQ like I do. This allows me to seamlessly switch between E3N and RGMercs as well as use other tools found at RG. I am hoping with the focus on emulation, Rekka and Redbot will soon become great friends and E3N will be offered here and available via Redfetch.
This thread is largely a collection of misconceptions about emu being some low quality bullshit that Billy Bob set up in his garage for friends. While that does exist and if you want that, knock yourself out (or set that up yourself)... but the popular servers the majority of people play on are very well done, reliable, been around for many years, have a rabid fan base who play all the time, etcetera. People really need to take a look at the emu offerings available at eqemulator.org and see what is possible on emu today. The MQ dev team focusing on emu likely means even more improvements to push emu further. Feature adds are more exciting for devs than patch releases.
I used to be in the 'emu is old' camp myself. I know of one angry rooster guy who was squarely in the 'omg never emu' camp too who is now an emu enjoyer and advocate simply because he tried it and found something he liked. Lots of people around here have a similar experience. Now that the future of Live MQ is uncertain, you can self ban if you want OR if you love EQ/MQ you can take a look at emulation and maybe find happiness there. When I think about my time on live with MQ, it was awful to be honest. I hid in instances, was paranoid all the time, took extra measures to try to look 'natural' and I still lost my cleric (thanks DBG!). Now I play somewhere where MQ is the common playstyle and is openly discussed in /ooc. Its heaven.
Fun fact... The largest guild on Project Lazarus has quite a few RG members in it, we just don't advertise it here.
This thread is largely a collection of misconceptions about emu being some low quality bullshit that Billy Bob set up in his garage for friends. While that does exist and if you want that, knock yourself out (or set that up yourself)... but the popular servers the majority of people play on are very well done, reliable, been around for many years, have a rabid fan base who play all the time, etcetera. People really need to take a look at the emu offerings available at eqemulator.org and see what is possible on emu today. The MQ dev team focusing on emu likely means even more improvements to push emu further. Feature adds are more exciting for devs than patch releases.
I used to be in the 'emu is old' camp myself. I know of one angry rooster guy who was squarely in the 'omg never emu' camp too who is now an emu enjoyer and advocate simply because he tried it and found something he liked. Lots of people around here have a similar experience. Now that the future of Live MQ is uncertain, you can self ban if you want OR if you love EQ/MQ you can take a look at emulation and maybe find happiness there. When I think about my time on live with MQ, it was awful to be honest. I hid in instances, was paranoid all the time, took extra measures to try to look 'natural' and I still lost my cleric (thanks DBG!). Now I play somewhere where MQ is the common playstyle and is openly discussed in /ooc. Its heaven.
Fun fact... The largest guild on Project Lazarus has quite a few RG members in it, we just don't advertise it here.
You can find an EQemu server but not importing you're toon but you could make a copy paste of a toon with a bit help and if the server allows it
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What exactly is the focus on emu? Like building a server or getting the server up to live? Does anything change that breaks mq on emu?
Thats a great question CBD, and even a bit two-fold as the EMU MQ team has their own focus, and RG will support and build on it but have their own focus as well.
My understanding is that means growing MQ features and enjoying the fruits of that labor instead of playing cat/mouse/tug-o-war "patch for live" for x days/month
its a rennaissance over here bro and i'm super happy to watch these guys having fun doing cool shit (like solving major emu crash bugs that have plagued players for years, or help work on a back end for possible new login server/account systems, or getting ingame with an emu server on a more modern client than RoF2
ok that didn't answer my question.. let me dumb it down .. is emu everquest ( like current expansion or only to a sertain expansion..
no you can't bring your current toon
ok that didn't answer my question.. let me dumb it down .. is emu everquest ( and if it is . is it like current expansion or only to a certain expansion..?)
no you can't bring your current toon
Read it a bit closer.
Yes it is everquest but if you look at each server description it mostly states what expansions its up to. None of them are up to current expansion as far I can find just to RoF.
ok for thoughs who were wondering them selfs.. after reading that
thanks for the link.. but you could of just said no ..
ya i noticed that too.. just never was interested in playing anything but eq and was curious if it was new content or not.. i was just hoping is all
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EMU is just the short name of an emulated server. It replaces the official servers and is hosted privately outside of dbg. They are usually many expansions behind and sometimes have special rules. You cannot transfer your existing characters to them in anyway. Hope that helps.
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So this is going to be legit without litigation from DBG like the 3.5 million dollar lawsuit against the other emu server?
because its not uncommon for stuff to change between when the patch goes on test and live. That the whole idea of the test server getting the patch 1st. that way any bugs can be worked out. So its very possible that by the time the patch goes to the live server there been several changes.
Also in the other thread about test/live patch they said there are signs of new stuff added in to detect using MQ. This means those working on getting it going have to find ways of dealing with that.
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