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Its an open source that can't be put behind a pay wall.
In regards to Tnutts response to my earlier post, I am not requesting a pay wall be put on MQ. I was more or less curious if it is something RG could do to help streamline recurring donations to the individuals working on maintaining MQ. If it's not possible its totally understandable.

I am very thankful you and the others that have worked on MQ have done it for the love of the game. I am just saying I would select an option to have recurring donations to MQ if it was available/possible through the RG subscription.
 
As much as I want Daybreak to crumble under Jchan's 3rd chin, it looks like some people are stepping up and getting a working patch install. Patience, everyone, it's not dead yet!.
 
Unfortunate news. I just re-licensed 6 plugins March 31st. Guess I should've perused the forums a bit before jumping back in. Maybe this'll be the spark I need to get into ISboxer again and actually learn some complicated melee setups.

As far as the OG compilers leaving Live, I think I understand why. Maybe these new detection methods are so daunting that they don't want a potential mass ban wave on their collective souls. I'd caution anyone from jumping the gun and using MQ for a bit on accounts with any amount of time invested. Don't lose your hard work.

I guess I'll be smashing my face against the screen trying to figure out Action Target Groups and Variable Key Binds.

I've loved EQ since childhood, RG, MMOBUGS, and the MQ development team gave me a way to keep playing it. Forever grateful.
 
I'm a recently returning player and quickly found out (after weeks of LFG on multiple servers) that people are either grouping with friends or guildies and pick up groups are no longer an option. That's how I found your software. The plugins let me play and complete things that I couldn't do solo; so THANK you to everyone that put the time and effort into creating these fantastic tools. It can never be said enough, but you've truly improved my friends' lives and my life in a huge way. When I found your software, I recommended it to my friends and helped them get set up. My friends and I are well into our senior discount years, some of us can barely see or have neurological issues that make it impossible to play the game with all the button pushing and manual processes. Some of us struggle with depression and need a hand to get out of our own heads for a while. Your plugins and MQ allowed us to get together and take a trip down memory lane and get back in touch. I'm very hopeful about the future. Whether or not MQ remains active on live, I'll be around to try every possible option to play the game I love on Live or EMU or wherever with my friends. Thank you @Sic, @brainiac, @Redbot @Knightly @dannuic @captboom, @boxbuddy @ncellular @iluvseq and everyone that keeps this community alive, I just wanted you all to know you make a difference and are appreciated.
 
So , thought.. Speculation - What if
What if your post got multiple reports/dms/complaints and was so bad it was deleted .

If you want to troll, please don't elsewhere official forums / discord, hell mq discord. Just not here.

We're trying to have a nice place for folks
 
As much as I want Daybreak to crumble
I remember a few years ago MQ was getting a hard time from DBG as usual / mass bannings of MQ users etc. I figured if the MQ team just stopped supporting live it would cause DBG a loss of many subscriptions and they would back down. I don't know if they would, just a hunch.
 
I remember a few years ago MQ was getting a hard time from DBG as usual / mass bannings of MQ users etc. I figured if the MQ team just stopped supporting live it would cause DBG a loss of many subscriptions and they would back down. I don't know if they would, just a hunch.
Only time will tell. In the mean time , I’m leveling up spell research . Someone put an end to my misery !!!
 
I'm freaking pumped. I quit live/test a long time ago. I tried it about a year ago and hardly recognized eq from when I played on day 1 of EverQuest. Emu takes me back to those days (without the boat rides.) on live everyone is quite, afraid to make a mistake and get banned. On emu everyone uses /ooc to ask for help with usually quick response, because there will be no ban ( unless against server rules.)

For those who don't like emu, try again and try different servers. You may find one you like.
I have been looking and looking for a server. I am not able to find one that's active. New to EMU so I'm sure it's me, but any direction would be most appreciated.
 
This will be an interesting thing to watch unfold. I've never looked at EMU servers before, but now might be the time to figure it out.
Last I heard you needed a special version of the game to even start with them.

Anyway.... This whole thing is slightly depressing..... Redguides is what has kept EQ fun for the last few years for me.
I feel exactly the same!
 
Unfortunate news. I just re-licensed 6 plugins March 31st. Guess I should've perused the forums a bit before jumping back in. Maybe this'll be the spark I need to get into ISboxer again and actually learn some complicated melee setups.

As far as the OG compilers leaving Live, I think I understand why. Maybe these new detection methods are so daunting that they don't want a potential mass ban wave on their collective souls. I'd caution anyone from jumping the gun and using MQ for a bit on accounts with any amount of time invested. Don't lose your hard work.

I guess I'll be smashing my face against the screen trying to figure out Action Target Groups and Variable Key Binds.

I've loved EQ since childhood, RG, MMOBUGS, and the MQ development team gave me a way to keep playing it. Forever grateful.
I did the same thing...kicking myself now :(
 
well this sucks but i appreciate RG and all who helped make these every month it resparked eq for awhile i guess i just unsubbed all accounts hope daybreak feels it and makes yalls lives easier. GL on emu i'll leave my sub here great work
 
well this sucks but i appreciate RG and all who helped make these every month it resparked eq for awhile i guess i just unsubbed all accounts hope daybreak feels it and makes yalls lives easier. GL on emu i'll leave my sub here great work

i dont care about EMU
maybe you did - but this doesn't sound like you read that several folks *are* working on trying to ensure MQ for live/test continue.

next week or two will give us a bit of a better picture of what the future looks like with that regard.
 
I did read it and appreciate there effort thats why I left my sub but if db is making it more difficult on purpose why should I pay them if they dont want me I won't be pushed to some corner of eq I hope they get it straight and live can be updated like normal
 
I did read it and appreciate there effort thats why I left my sub but if db is making it more difficult on purpose why should I pay them if they dont want me I won't be pushed to some corner of eq I hope they get it straight and live can be updated like normal
yeah most of us hope live/test can continue - on a side note the additions we're all planning on doing for emu are also pretty great - and the emu community is working on getting a modern client (currently up to ToB) working as well. that is a while out - but it is very exciting development.

there are lots of folks who feel *exactly* like you do. hopefully we can all continue to play the game we love, in the ways we want.
 
Be honest please, do we need to find an other way than RedGuide ?
if you think i've been anything than as honest as i can be, you shouldn't waste your time reading further. I wish i knew the future with certainty, but i dont.

a lot of us are working real hard to get mq updated for live/test so we can continue to play the game how we would like.

If MQ gets updated - and wherever starts making that available for use, it'll need to be publicly available, which means RG can continue to build

when redbot made this post it looked like we'd never see a build again for live/test. Now it looks like that work might continue. What that looks like with regards to the stuff in the giant banner is yet to be determined.
RG is still going to make pushes and enhancements for EMU regardless of the outcome.

dbg's attitude towards MQ poses a real and serious threat to RG/MQ for live/test and to everyone who plays that way.

EverQuest (live servers) were brought down for a scheduled patch. Here's what to expect on patchdays.
Will there be a live patch? While our priorities are shifting, the new live/test update team was able to patch test after several late nights, and are now hard at work on live.
We're happy to report that progress is good, the team is now figuring out how to handle some of the things Knightly warned us (and YOU) about. Keep checking this space!

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if you think i've been anything than as honest as i can be, you shouldn't waste your time reading further. I wish i knew the future with certainty, but i dont.

a lot of us are working real hard to get mq updated for live/test so we can continue to play the game how we would like.

If MQ gets updated - and wherever starts making that available for use, it'll need to be publicly available, which means RG can continue to build

when redbot made this post it looked like we'd never see a build again for live/test. Now it looks like that work might continue. What that looks like with regards to the stuff in the giant banner is yet to be determined.
RG is still going to make pushes and enhancements for EMU regardless of the outcome.

dbg's attitude towards MQ poses a real and serious threat to RG/MQ for live/test and to everyone who plays that way.

EverQuest (live servers) were brought down for a scheduled patch. Here's what to expect on patchdays.
Will there be a live patch? While our priorities are shifting, the new live/test update team was able to patch test after several late nights, and are now hard at work on live.
We're happy to report that progress is good, the team is now figuring out how to handle some of the things Knightly warned us (and YOU) about. Keep checking this space!

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Keep at it laddies.
 
if you think i've been anything than as honest as i can be, you shouldn't waste your time reading further. I wish i knew the future with certainty, but i dont.

a lot of us are working real hard to get mq updated for live/test so we can continue to play the game how we would like.

If MQ gets updated - and wherever starts making that available for use, it'll need to be publicly available, which means RG can continue to build

when redbot made this post it looked like we'd never see a build again for live/test. Now it looks like that work might continue. What that looks like with regards to the stuff in the giant banner is yet to be determined.
RG is still going to make pushes and enhancements for EMU regardless of the outcome.

dbg's attitude towards MQ poses a real and serious threat to RG/MQ for live/test and to everyone who plays that way.

EverQuest (live servers) were brought down for a scheduled patch. Here's what to expect on patchdays.
Will there be a live patch? While our priorities are shifting, the new live/test update team was able to patch test after several late nights, and are now hard at work on live.
We're happy to report that progress is good, the team is now figuring out how to handle some of the things Knightly warned us (and YOU) about. Keep checking this space!

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@Sic - I do have a clarifying question regarding this which I feel that I should know by now but don’t. Are there other groups/individuals making their own MQ builds and either sharing privately or just using themselves? Or is RG the main group building and updating MQ (prior to the recent changes) that others than fork to their own preferences?
 
Not rushing you guys but generously just curious. What do you think the time frame is for getting the class plugins up and running for EMU servers (Lazarus specifically for me)?
 
@Sic - I do have a clarifying question regarding this which I feel that I should know by now but don’t. Are there other groups/individuals making their own MQ builds and either sharing privately or just using themselves? Or is RG the main group building and updating MQ (prior to the recent changes) that others than fork to their own preferences?
RedGuides doesn't control / own MQ --- so we don't have a say; if we did have a say it would be that "mq should remain open"

the MQ devs (knightly/brain/dan) are pretty clear that they would not take kindly to people trying to take mq "closed"
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Not rushing you guys but generously just curious. What do you think the time frame is for getting the class plugins up and running for EMU servers (Lazarus specifically for me)?
when something is ready to be said, it will be.

sorry dude - i know not hearing what you want sucks - all the dms/pms/@s/pigeon farts shows everyone is real sad about everything
 
@Sic - I do have a clarifying question regarding this which I feel that I should know by now but don’t. Are there other groups/individuals making their own MQ builds and either sharing privately or just using themselves? Or is RG the main group building and updating MQ (prior to the recent changes) that others than fork to their own preferences?
MQ is open source. Anyone building a release would be using the same source as RG or other sites. Very few people in the MQ community are capable of updating it for live themselves .
 
I cant say I completely understand whats happening other than it seems like RedGuides is ending. I wish I was more tech savvy like most of you but to be honest I don't even completely understand what an emu-server is. I'm a pretty old man been playing EQ since the beginning and I really didn't even know anything about MQ till about 2020. But I do know this, this has to have been an extraordinary amount of work and it made the game playable again for me. And if this is truly the end I will cancel all my accounts and walk away for good. My sincere thanks to everyone who worked on RedGuides and MQ you are appreciated. I'll be watching to see what the future holds. THanks again,
 
when something is ready to be said, it will be.

sorry dude - i know not hearing what you want sucks - all the dms/pms/@s/pigeon farts shows everyone is real sad about everything
Eh it’s fine. RGmercs works fine enough. The plugins are just a nice QOL boost.
 
Just wanted to say thank you to this community for bringing fun back to EQ. I know an immense amount of work went into the multiple plugins, client, and the various changes. It really did breathe new life into an old game for me after coming back to a desolate live server. Also appreciate those who run the Emu servers and a special shout out to Project Laz which I had fun with. I feel that Emu servers are the way forward as long as server admins do so responsibly.

Have a train free day :)
 
I cant say I completely understand whats happening other than it seems like RedGuides is ending. I wish I was more tech savvy like most of you but to be honest I don't even completely understand what an emu-server is. I'm a pretty old man been playing EQ since the beginning and I really didn't even know anything about MQ till about 2020. But I do know this, this has to have been an extraordinary amount of work and it made the game playable again for me. And if this is truly the end I will cancel all my accounts and walk away for good. My sincere thanks to everyone who worked on RedGuides and MQ you are appreciated. I'll be watching to see what the future holds. THanks again,
redguides is not ending. even if eq shut down live/test servers, RG wouldn't go away - it might look different, but we're gonna be here
 
I’m looking forward to seeing how RG will further strengthen its support for Emu. Personally, I’d love it if it becomes easy to spin up a private server and play casually.
 
I cant say I completely understand whats happening other than it seems like RedGuides is ending. I wish I was more tech savvy like most of you but to be honest I don't even completely understand what an emu-server is. I'm a pretty old man been playing EQ since the beginning and I really didn't even know anything about MQ till about 2020. But I do know this, this has to have been an extraordinary amount of work and it made the game playable again for me. And if this is truly the end I will cancel all my accounts and walk away for good. My sincere thanks to everyone who worked on RedGuides and MQ you are appreciated. I'll be watching to see what the future holds. THanks again,
Hi Shonk, you very likely have nothing to worry about, but no one can tell you with certainty just yet what is happening.

RedGuides makes the VV (VeryVanillla) version of MQ. They do not make MacroQuest though, so they are reliant on the MQ team. The MQ team that did it for a few years needed to step down, making a patch work every month, every time EQ patched, is very real life time consuming for them. They are not paid employees they are just some guys who volunteer their time so MQ can continue (they did accept donations, but they have a real job, MQ is just a personal hobby). They will be working on EMU and no longer Live.

A new MQ team has started work on making MQ for Live to continue to work. This is not an easy task, and some time is required for them to figure out things and find what can be done. If unsuccessful or they give up, it would mean no more MQ for Live, which means RG cannot make thier version nor support it as there is no MQ to build all the plugins and luas for. MQ for EMU would continue, for some its good, others don't care. If the new team is successful, all will continue as is, or at least we hope so. It would mean RG will continue to work on Live and all plugins and such continue to be useful. The RG team, and all RG creators have no say or work on MQ, they are reliant on its work. Some people are upset because they just bought plugins or got the RG yearly sub, and are upset they wasted their money...but the simple fact we don;t know anything is doomed. Simply everyone, ALL of us, have to wait a bit to know what is going to happen. It may take a few days, it could take a month. Anyone jumping the gun is just impatient, we will likely be fine. Just takes time, its not an easy task for new people to take over and start things they have never worked on, plus its an ever changing code to 'break' when DBG patches the game.

As for EMU, its an Emulated version of Everquest. Anyone can download it and run EQ on your home computer, for yourself only or for others. EMU is a 'hacked' version of the game put together by players using that last install files we could easily get before the whole game was installed by full download through the DBG Loader. Due to that EMU is limited to versions like Original, Kunark, Velious, or even up to Dragons of Norrath. Finding the download is easy enough online, but not something RG will show the way there, nor link to. What you would look for is something like the RoF2 files (Reign of Fear2). Once you have that, you can go to Eqemulator.org and follow the install instructions, they have a helpful Discord as well. They have lists of servers that users run (free) and each has its own rules and its own world form, various versions of EQ, with some having custom items that are built by the server operators. Some support MQ, some do not.

You can also choose to not join a multiplayer server and simply install the EMU for ONLY you. Your private EQ where you play MQ as much as you want. On mine, I never have to log off, I play as I want, never worrying about anything at all. If having expansion limits like ONLY to Omens or DoN is an issue..maybe you would not enjoy EMU EQ. I did not like it until I tried it, I absolutely love it now. It was a difficult adjustment as I wanted some newer things to exist in EMU... but I got over it as I had so much fun. This brings us back to the old MQ team is committing their work to EMU. Also being new work, we cannot know yet what they will be able to achieve, but things we hope is bringing EMU version to a 64 bit client, newer expansions, easier EMU install with greater options. I am not a dev, nor on the team, but what I have seen so far..is of great anticipation and I foresee a massive update in EMU side bringing us even closer to Live.

Hopefully this helps you and anyone who may not understand a few things, to help see things. <3 🐸
 
I cant say I completely understand whats happening other than it seems like RedGuides is ending. I wish I was more tech savvy like most of you but to be honest I don't even completely understand what an emu-server is. I'm a pretty old man been playing EQ since the beginning and I really didn't even know anything about MQ till about 2020. But I do know this, this has to have been an extraordinary amount of work and it made the game playable again for me. And if this is truly the end I will cancel all my accounts and walk away for good. My sincere thanks to everyone who worked on RedGuides and MQ you are appreciated. I'll be watching to see what the future holds. THanks again,
Redguides is a community that supports multi-boxing and open discussion of all things EQ. We don't hide behind moderators that shut down any discussion of hacks or mods or third party software. RG is NOT MQ. We support MQ and we talk about MQ. We also support and talk about EMU. There is another group of people that have stepped in and are actively working on developing builds for Test/Live.

I would invite everyone to go back and re-read the original post and the first sentence. Things are just going to take more time to get things right. I will quote it below:

The maintainers of MacroQuest: brainiac, Knightly and dannuic, are going to solely maintain emulated server support from this point on. Following their lead, RedGuides is beginning the process to become an emu-first community. That means Live and Test server support will not be as swift or guaranteed as they once were, at least for now.
 
I have an other question : why RG or MQ team was upgrading MQ for test server? If DB wants to ban us we dont need to work for them.

I know a lot of us boxers was testing the game, a lot... Its something we dont have to do if DB doesnt respect us.
 
I have an other question : why RG or MQ team was upgrading MQ for test server? If DB wants to ban us we dont need to work for them.

I know a lot of us boxers was testing the game, a lot... Its something we dont have to do if DB doesnt respect us.
I would wager most people on test could give a rat's ass about testing.
And in recent years, DBG reliance on testers on test also seems to be a meme.

Most people want the free gold status and ability to testcopy things, I think.

Edit: also, the test code is a chance to have a look at code that in the past was pretty similar to what ended up on live the week after, from my understanding.
 
I have an other question : why RG or MQ team was upgrading MQ for test server? If DB wants to ban us we dont need to work for them.

I know a lot of us boxers was testing the game, a lot... Its something we dont have to do if DB doesnt respect us.
lol wut

i speak to a lot of folks - i rarely hear anyone tell me that they actively "test" stuff on test. because the test server gets neglected and stuff doesn't get "fixed" until the "true up" patch a week after live patch.

I would wager most people on test could give a rat's ass about testing.
And in recent years, DBG reliance on testers on test also seems to be a meme.

Most people want the free gold status and ability to testcopy things, I think.
100% agree with algar here
 
i never asked "what people are doing in Test", but why you should upgrade Test? its the preparation of Live?
uh - well. some people play on test.
test is *often* where changes happen before they go to live, so for new implementation and additions, it is something that can be worked on before it hits live.

none of that work is "for dbg" unless you mean "dbg benefits from players *enjoying* test server which might encourage them to purchase things like expansions and stuff from the dbg store
 
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