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Compiled - Oakwynd - truebox removed 3/28/2025

mortous said:
But if mmo has it, doesn’t that mean MQ support has already been added?
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mq releases mq, mq is open source , mmo makes their own build based on that , and does other things, and keeps it closed source.

rg builds mq too, and releases it too, rg also keeps it open source, except for the premium plugins, that are supplied by users and not rg.
 
Booted up RG for the first time since Oakwynd went relaxed truebox a few weeks ago. I'm getting punted to char select every few seconds which if memory serves was some sort of server validity check or protection?

Is there still no support for Oakwynd? The other dude's compile of it was back in action a few weeks ago so I guess I was anticipating RG would be too. Looking forward to some of the QoL stuff from RG whenever it's back functioning on Oakwynd.
 
since there has been a lot of hostility towards, RG, me, other folks who try and answer questions, and the MQ devs about oakwynd not going truebox.

And since i keep getting the dumbest PM's possible.

let me summarize:
- mq doesn't support truebox
- sometime after truebox is REMOVED it will be supported
- currently, dbg hasn't ACTUALLY removed the truebox code from Oakwynd
- sic, redbot, brainiac, knightly, dannuic, nor anyone else is "HoLdInG oAkWyNd hOsTaGe"

Here is a real simple explanation by brainiac:

brainiac said:
EQ devs didn't remove truebox protections from oakwynd by going relaxed
we don't circumvent truebox protections
and while we don't care about oakwynd MQ usage at this point, unfortunately, we do care about the other truebox servers.
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i keep getting kicked to char select screen. i just started out on this server. is it an issue with tools?

NM i can only box 3 not 4 lol
 
And since i keep getting the dumbest PM's possible.

let me summarize:
- mq doesn't support truebox
- sometime after truebox is REMOVED it will be supported
- currently, dbg hasn't ACTUALLY removed the truebox code from Oakwynd
- sic, redbot, brainiac, knightly, dannuic, nor anyone else is "HoLdInG oAkWyNd hOsTaGe"

Here is a real simple explanation by brainiac:

brainiac said:
EQ devs didn't remove truebox protections from oakwynd by going relaxed
we don't circumvent truebox protections
and while we don't care about oakwynd MQ usage at this point, unfortunately, we do care about the other truebox servers.
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ChatWithThisName said:
I don't always issue commands in /say standing in guild lobby, but when I do.
Chris Farley GIF by Leroy Patterson
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Last time I did that was on a trader that I hadn't configured chat windows on yet. I started spamming the say chat to try and get rid of it after, LOL
 
killaton21 said:
i wanted to box on oakwynd but it wont let me lol instant log out.
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Sic said:
And since i keep getting the dumbest PM's possible.

let me summarize:
- mq doesn't support truebox
- sometime after truebox is REMOVED it will be supported
- currently, dbg hasn't ACTUALLY removed the truebox code from Oakwynd
- sic, redbot, brainiac, knightly, dannuic, nor anyone else is "HoLdInG oAkWyNd hOsTaGe"

Here is a real simple explanation by brainiac:
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I just installed MQ and started the game. My game now kicks to the character select screen every few minutes. Is there a setting or something to fix this?
 
The problem is I'm on a TLP not EMU, have 32 gb of ram, and only trying to make it work on one character.

Thank you
 
MQ still doesn't work on Oakwynd, it has something to do with DBG not turning off truebox protection (and MQ devs not wanting to support MQ use on any server with truebox protection on). I would guess that it'll work once Oakwynd goes from relaxed truebox to no truebox.
 
Wrong forum
Since Oakwynd went relaxed truebox in May and we are now halfway through November. Is it is not too much of a stretch to think MQ would work this far out? Oakwynd is in the stage where finding groups is getting difficult and more and more are going to look into boxing.

I did an extensive search before signing up and paying for level 2 and just found the vague, “it will work sometime after truebox is relaxed.”

There needs to be some information on which specific servers MQ works on readily available on the main page so other’s don’t make the same mistake and purchase access to something they cant use. This may also reduce some of the frequent questions about TLP servers.


Thank you
 
I doubt it since most people don't read and search. It says specifically "at some point"
 
bonoa said:
Since Oakwynd went relaxed truebox in May and we are now halfway through November. Is it is not too much of a stretch to think MQ would work this far out? Oakwynd is in the stage where finding groups is getting difficult and more and more are going to look into boxing.

I did an extensive search before signing up and paying for level 2 and just found the vague, “it will work sometime after truebox is relaxed.”

There needs to be some information on which specific servers MQ works on readily available on the main page so other’s don’t make the same mistake and purchase access to something they cant use. This may also reduce some of the frequent questions about TLP servers.


Thank you
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Please search before posting. This is stickied and is the first search result using "oakwynd"

let me summarize:
- mq doesn't support truebox
- sometime after truebox is REMOVED it will be supported
- currently, dbg hasn't ACTUALLY removed the truebox code from Oakwynd
- sic, redbot, brainiac, knightly, dannuic, nor anyone else is "HoLdInG oAkWyNd hOsTaGe"

Here is a real simple explanation by brainiac:
brainiac said:
EQ devs didn't remove truebox protections from oakwynd by going relaxed
we don't circumvent truebox protections
and while we don't care about oakwynd MQ usage at this point, unfortunately, we do care about the other truebox servers.
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and if you're not level 2 (but are somehow trying to get RedGuide's support none-the-less) stickied in level 1 "Public information" is information about it >>> Here <<< and as indicated in that stickied level 1 post, the "details" are available in level 2.

WillardJ85 said:
MQ still doesn't work on Oakwynd, it has something to do with DBG not turning off truebox protection (and MQ devs not wanting to support MQ use on any server with truebox protection on). I would guess that it'll work once Oakwynd goes from relaxed truebox to no truebox.
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this is correct, it will work automatically when dbg no longer says "this is a truebox server" just like other trueboxes that transitioned to non-truebox or relaxed
 
bonoa said:
Yes, it’s on the forums. Behind level 2 access! See the problem?
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this is redguides afterall.

your previous post got merged to this thread.

and if you're not level 2 (but are somehow trying to get RedGuide's support none-the-less) stickied in level 1 "Public information" is information about it >>> Here <<< and as indicated in that stickied level 1 post, the "details" are available in level 2.

please don't continue to make new posts about oakwynd and dbg not removing truebox code on it.
 
bonoa said:
Yes, it’s on the forums. Behind level 2 access! See the problem?
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www.redguides.com

Policy - When does MQ work on servers that transition into "relaxed truebox" servers?

The MQ devs have stated that a server that transitions from Truebox into "Relaxed Truebox" would get support added "sometime" after they become relaxed truebox. There shouldn't be an expectation for it to be the same day, or necessarily even the same patch. MQ is not supported on Truebox...
www.redguides.com www.redguides.com

Stickied in level 1.
 
Since more folks are making brand-new threads (without searching or making any attempt at finding the information), let me just re-post the same information.

Today is Monday December 23rd 2024 for folks who want to take the "date it went truebox" as a "that is the latest date there is information about/from" which is untrue.

As it is today Oakwynd is still flagged by DBG as "truebox" in their internal code


This is stickied and is the first search result using "oakwynd"

let me summarize:
- mq doesn't support truebox
- sometime after truebox is REMOVED it will be supported
- currently, dbg hasn't ACTUALLY removed the truebox code from Oakwynd
- sic, redbot, brainiac, knightly, dannuic, nor anyone else is "HoLdInG oAkWyNd hOsTaGe"

Here is a real simple explanation by brainiac:
brainiac said:
EQ devs didn't remove truebox protections from oakwynd by going relaxed
we don't circumvent truebox protections
and while we don't care about oakwynd MQ usage at this point, unfortunately, we do care about the other truebox servers.
Click to expand...

and if you're not level 2 (but are somehow trying to get RedGuide's support none-the-less) stickied in level 1 "Public information" is information about it >>> Here <<< and as indicated in that stickied level 1 post, the "details" are available in level 2.

WillardJ85 said:
MQ still doesn't work on Oakwynd, it has something to do with DBG not turning off truebox protection (and MQ devs not wanting to support MQ use on any server with truebox protection on). I would guess that it'll work once Oakwynd goes from relaxed truebox to no truebox.
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this is correct, it will work automatically when dbg no longer says "this is a truebox server" just like other trueboxes that transitioned to non-truebox or relaxed
 
Sic said:
Since more folks are making brand-new threads (without searching or making any attempt at finding the information), let me just re-post the same information.

Today is Monday December 23rd 2024 for folks who want to take the "date it went truebox" as a "that is the latest date there is information about/from" which is untrue.

As it is today Oakwynd is still flagged by DBG as "truebox" in their internal code


This is stickied and is the first search result using "oakwynd"

let me summarize:
- mq doesn't support truebox
- sometime after truebox is REMOVED it will be supported
- currently, dbg hasn't ACTUALLY removed the truebox code from Oakwynd
- sic, redbot, brainiac, knightly, dannuic, nor anyone else is "HoLdInG oAkWyNd hOsTaGe"

Here is a real simple explanation by brainiac:


and if you're not level 2 (but are somehow trying to get RedGuide's support none-the-less) stickied in level 1 "Public information" is information about it >>> Here <<< and as indicated in that stickied level 1 post, the "details" are available in level 2.


this is correct, it will work automatically when dbg no longer says "this is a truebox server" just like other trueboxes that transitioned to non-truebox or relaxed
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Hambam said:
Curious, been enjoying my time on THJ :P but does this change the outlook for RG on oakwynd?
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The current compile of Very Vanilla is working on Oakwynd as of those changes. Whether or not it's officially supported, I can't say (last I checked the sticky still said unsupported for Oakwynd), but whatever flags/heartbeats/magic was being used to logout are no longer present as of Friday. Hopefully official support sneaks in relatively soon or is already there and the sticky update is a low priority.
 
Hambam said:
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Curious, been enjoying my time on THJ :P but does this change the outlook for RG on oakwynd?
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Niz said:
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The current compile of Very Vanilla is working on Oakwynd as of those changes. Whether or not it's officially supported, I can't say (last I checked the sticky still said unsupported for Oakwynd), but whatever flags/heartbeats/magic was being used to logout are no longer present as of Friday. Hopefully official support sneaks in relatively soon or is already there and the sticky update is a low priority.
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All was needed was dbg to remove their truebox flag/checks and it automatically works. So yep.

I updated the sticky
 
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