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Bug - no-drop trades

shadetree

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Pets can equip no trade gear, for now.

Duel wielding pets with the uber cleric summoned hammers are pretty cool...

But equipping a charmed pet with old raid gear, then killin that charmed pet to loot the no drop gear with an alt... is a bit over the top.
 
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Worked on a couple pieces of armor. Can't seem to get it to do weapons though. Also handy if you want to move an attuned item to an account with more loyalty points.
 
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I just gave my COTF T2 raid 2hb to a charmed snake in the newbie area of freeport and was able to loot it. Maybe try some mobs of a different class if you can't get it to take the weapon?

Anyhow, can confirm this is working for sure. I was able to do this with raid visible armor, etc. Congrats alts & bazaar sales!

Edit: This charm method seems to work for just about any no drop item that can fit in a slot. I was able to give a charmed pet a LON illusion item and recover it (It's a face slot item even though you would never equip it. Almost all of the clicks are like this so you can even trade your LON claim items that you can't sell from the monthly free packs for example)

Edit again: This will also allow you to transfer augments. I know you get a warning if you give the mob an aug'd item that it will be destroyed, but it isn't. The item is in the exact condition as what you handed in.
 
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If your pet has weapons already, then in order for it to equip different weapons, they must be faster delay. Also, pets above a certain level cannot equip 2h weapons, I believe. If it's a 2h weap, try giving it to a lower level mob.
 
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Yep, was a pet level issue. 2h wep transferred fine, thanks Shadetree.
 
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Awesome Thank you!, was able to transfer a couple LoN ornaments to an acct that would actually use them. Nifty trick
 
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I did some more testing so you don't have to hand your items in fear to a Lv 1 orc pawn and see them get eaten:

--You can hand in as many items as you want (I didn't try more than 3 at a time just in case the mobs have a limit on how many items they can hold - if they're like normal pets, there is no limit but I really don't wanna test that)

--You can only hand in ONE item for each slot at a time. IE. You cannot give a charmed mob two illusion masks or two raid bracers at once; if you try - the mob will simply reject the second item and you get it back on your cursor. This is identical to how the code works on normal summoned pets.

--Newbie zone mobs are great for this method. However, if you are trying to transfer weapons, the mob's inherent class/level somewhat dictates what it will take. Ex. A drake in GFay will not take Monk H2H (Arx Mentis T3) or a Caster crude defiant club (Rec. Lv 10). However, a bee standing 10 ft from it will take both at once (and you get both back). I do not know enough about pet weapon rules to determine what the code actually is but like Shadetree said earlier, try a different level mob OR I recommend trying a different *type* of mob altogether if you're having issues. I also tested this with some 2HB weapons. Again, the drake in my earlier example would not take a 2HB at all but a wolf next to it would.

--The item *must* have an equippable slot tag. You cannot transfer quest items, raid currency, or any other item that does not fit in *some* slot. This follows the new, normal pet rules unfortunately.

--You *can* hand an augment that is not in a piece of gear to the mob. I tested this by handing a Frozen Orb of the Fabled King to a wolf; he accepted the aug without being in an item and I was able to recover it. However, after more testing... like weapons... it seems that some mobs will, and some won't, take it.

--You *can* hand ornaments to a mob straight up. However, you cannot hand in epic augments (from An Epic Request). Perhaps if you found a mob of the exact class, but I didn't care enough to run around looking for Enchanter mobs.

--And despite the in-game warning about it being destroyed, I still have not had a single transfer eat an augment if it was already in an item.

Hopefully this will answer some questions and prevent others from wasting too much time.
 
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Just tested it and verified it worked. I had a dragorn war mask that i got from free packs on my druid account. I claimed it, had my chanter charm an orc, gave it to the orc than looted it with my warrior.
 
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if you hand a item with augs in it, even though it states you will lose the augs you really dont. I got my new war a ton of ac augs this way
 
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you should delete this whole thread and forget this even exists if you want it to stay in game
 
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I agree, This goes to far, GMs will just look at the logs and do another ban wave of whatever. I don't think the MQ community needs this.
 
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I'd have to 3rd the deletion of the thread. It's been up for long enough for most of the active community to see.
 
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I doubt they will ban, that takes a lot of resources to look through logs (and apparently they wont even do that for deleting chars) but I 4rth deleting this.
 
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Someone is selling items and bragging about it in the bazaar forums based on this thread.
 
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It's out in the wild anyway, at least partly. Saw someone asking if cleric summoned hammers were better than mage summoned pet weapons last night in General. I'd expect an emergency patch this week.
 
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So long as they're selling it in the private bazaar forum (lvl 2 only) I'm ok with it.

Remember that nobody in public can see that forum, only us.
 
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I'm 100% ok with deleting mine as long as Knights will. Anyone that's going to message us probably already has.

It's out in the wild anyway, at least partly. Saw someone asking if cleric summoned hammers were better than mage summoned pet weapons last night in General. I'd expect an emergency patch this week.

This has been going on for a while, not everyone has put 2 and 2 together and notice the charm thing.
 
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I sent a PM earlier asking to delete the threads after the concerns were posted.
 
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Exploits are what we are about. by the time it makes to the boards its usually well known.
 
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Exploits are what we are about. by the time it makes to the boards its usually well known.

That's kindof what I thought and why I didn't think it was a problem putting it in the private bazaar area.

I edited my postings there anyway since it seems to be the popular opinion.
 
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You don't have to ask us to delete a thread, everyone has that ability :) Look at the top of the thread.
 
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Well then! Learn something new everyday. :p

I've removed my bazaar postings so sorry if anyone got upset about it. Just send me a message next time if you're concerned!
 
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I don't think anyone got upset. Just wanting to see this go on as long as possible.

Same, but if anyone has some gumdrop buttons and could use some cash, just sayin, pm me.
 
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My thoughts are similar to Passaway. I want this to go on as long as possible. No need to advertise this in public areas.
 
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yes should not be public areas.


Is it somewhere in public currently?
 
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I've only seen the posts about it in the Black Market area. I check the public bazaar regularly too and never saw it advertised there. I know for me it was a little confusing because if you're Lv 2 and look at the main forums, the Black Market posts will show up as "Last Posts" but they aren't public. Maybe someone saw that and thought it was in the regular bazaar section? I certainly never posted it public, like everyone else, I'd like to ride this out as long as possible.

Edit: And... it's coming to an end, https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/index.php?threads/daybreak-more-problems.218574/

Edit again: Thread wasn't up long at all and looks like it got pulled already. If you didn't see it, someone basically said "you can charm and trade no drop stuff".
 
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Good use of this that I used today, give my alts T2 Cotf group armor and weapons that they did not have the currency to purchase. Good use while it lasts
 
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The funny thing is that the title of this post alone (which is visible to Lev 1 ) makes it clear what is going on.

These kind of exploits used to not last long. This charm exploit has been around a few times. Kind of funny that it appears, dissappears and gets introduced into EQ again. I shudder to think what a mess EQ code is these days.

The most fun exploit I remember was around 2002/2003 with the unlimited mage pets. I do not remember it exactly but you would cast eye of zomm then cancel it and then cast the pet again and repeat.

Made 50 pets on a single mage and dropped down in Hole. Fun times for all!
Only painful part was that you had to get hit to have the pets help you.
 
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Forum - Level 2 - MacroQuest Haven (Private) - Strategies

Why do you say this is visible to lev 1?
 
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Forum - Level 2 - MacroQuest Haven (Private) - Strategies

Why do you say this is visible to lev 1?

Log out of the forums. Look at the different sections- for each one it still displays the thread title under the "Last Post" column regardless if you're Lv 2. You can't access the thread obviously but the point was that the title was explanatory enough that anyone could see it. Honestly, I think someone with good intentions but no sense was talking to their overly righteous friend thinking they'd keep a secret... always a mistake unless you *know* them. The poster on the SOE boards said they 'heard it from a friend this morning' but whether or not that's true or they just didn't wanna say "oh, I frequent an exploit forum" is anyone's guess.
 
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I've changed the title, just in case. I'll look into making thread titles secret for this forum.
 
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Yeah it's very public now. This makes me a sad person :(


At least we can go back to selling it before the nerf!
 
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not worth the risk of getting your raid main banned for doing this honestly.
 
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I would be incredibly shocked if people got banned for this. I'd be willing to bet they'd lose a decent chunk of the playerbase, I've seen wts offers in general chat
 
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Given their new customer service stance and reduced GM staff, I don't think anyone is getting banned, rolled back, whatever. Even then, I don't know exactly how they would track something like this.

I can't believe that people are so stupid to actually try and advertise this in game public/general channels though. The general playerbase is either getting more stupid or more bold with the changes.
 
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had a guy pm me and was also advertising in general chat for anyone whith old raid loot rotting in banks to pm him and trade for krono
 
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