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MQ2Shaman

Plugin - MQ2Shaman 3.1.52471.11

To piggy on this request, can we have a toggle to buff while in combat for the avatar line? Aka, in the middle of a boss mob, if shaman is not doing the higher priority spells (heals if turned on, slowing, debuff, etc), and there is a person who's avatar falls off, can he buff while in combat then instead of waiting for combat to end? Also happens for chain pulling while xping when mobs are in camp the entire time.

he already does rebuff Avatar and GAvatar in combat if you have UseAvatar turned on

you can refer to this post > here <
 

Can you let me know what I'm doing wrong please? I have the plugin loaded, useavatar on, in raid mode, raid asssist set, avatar is not blocked on any melee, and both shamasn are not casting ferine avatar on anyone. they have teh spell memmed, but not casting it at all. BYOS is off

edit - he casts avatar while in combt, but not while resting. How can i have him cast avatar while resting? considering the recast time, resting is when he can cycel through multiple dps
 
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Can you let me know what I'm doing wrong please? I have the plugin loaded, useavatar on, in raid mode, raid asssist set, avatar is not blocked on any melee, and both shamasn are not casting ferine avatar on anyone. they have teh spell memmed, but not casting it at all. BYOS is off
dunno, looks like there might be an issue with it assuming you have everyone on local pc with cwtnbuffs loaded, shm in raidmode, other players in raid etc.. I suspect red might rebuild again today, so i'll see if i can replicate and fix before the rebuild
 
for your troubleshooting, everyone is on same PC, in same raid, everyone has cwtnbuffs loaded. All other buffs work on shaman and other toons running cwtn, just no avatar while not in combat. Fero works as expected on bst if that helps at all
 
My Shaman is 109 and I have UseHaste=on and it doesnt seem to be buffing my group with Haste. I have to manually pause and cast group haste. Assist Mode/Hybrid stance. Any suggestions on things I can check to fix?
 
My Shaman is 109 and I have UseHaste=on and it doesnt seem to be buffing my group with Haste. I have to manually pause and cast group haste. Assist Mode/Hybrid stance. Any suggestions on things I can check to fix?
well, at slightly higher level you will get haste that comes with your focus line of spells.

We stop using the STHaste and Haste lines after a while, because Haste is lvl 63, and GHaste Talisman of Celerity is 64, and these have mq2 stacking issues with higher level buffs when you get into "modern era" like the one you get from focus or from other haste line spells, so we don't try and use them at all at higher level

Once you get to lvl 111, your SingleFocus unity of the Kromrif will cast symbol of celerity and 115 your GroupFocus will have Symbol of Celerity (and this usage is just based off of your UseFocus

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well, at slightly higher level you will get haste that comes with your focus line of spells.

We stop using the STHaste and Haste lines after a while, because Haste is lvl 63, and GHaste Talisman of Celerity is 64, and these have mq2 stacking issues with higher level buffs when you get into "modern era" like the one you get from focus or from other haste line spells, so we don't try and use them at all at higher level

Once you get to lvl 111, your SingleFocus unity of the Kromrif will cast symbol of celerity and 115 your GroupFocus will have Symbol of Celerity (and this usage is just based off of your UseFocus

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Thank you I just have to tough it out 2 more levels then... I didnt realize these changes were made as I am fresh back from a break. BTW these plugins are great... they play(dps...etc) them better than I can!
 
Thank you I just have to tough it out 2 more levels then... I didnt realize these changes were made as I am fresh back from a break. BTW these plugins are great... they play(dps...etc) them better than I can!
yw, and welcome back!
 
The shaman seems to want to rez. She even goes so far as to say she is casting "Rejuvenation of Spirit" but is not actually casting the spell. She repeated it four times in a row without casting. I have Call and Rezstick turned off.
 
The shaman seems to want to rez. She even goes so far as to say she is casting "Rejuvenation of Spirit" but is not actually casting the spell. She repeated it four times in a row without casting. I have Call and Rezstick turned off.
we only cast rejuvenation of spirit if:
- userez is on
- you are in a resting or active combat state (this requires not having a busted ui that doesn't give you the correct combat state), you would get a red msg saying that you need to be in a resting state to use this ability... i suspect this might be your issue.
- the corpse is within 10 distance

because we would fail before trying to cast the spell otherwise, it sounds like your combat state is coming back incorrect. I have some debuging in our rez section you could turn on - but it is for debugging when we aren't rezzing, which has almost entirely been due to folks having a UI that doesn't report combatstate correctly - you might have the same problem in reverse is my best guess

are you getting any red eq errors?

eq can also fail at spellcasts finishing if you are slightly in a wall, or standing directly on top of a campfire. worth checking those things as well.

but by the time we get around to actually "mq2shaman is casting" we've already validated the target, ensured it is ready and able to be cast upon the person etc
 
we only cast rejuvenation of spirit if:
- userez is on
- you are in a resting or active combat state (this requires not having a busted ui that doesn't give you the correct combat state), you would get a red msg saying that you need to be in a resting state to use this ability... i suspect this might be your issue.
- the corpse is within 10 distance

because we would fail before trying to cast the spell otherwise, it sounds like your combat state is coming back incorrect. I have some debuging in our rez section you could turn on - but it is for debugging when we aren't rezzing, which has almost entirely been due to folks having a UI that doesn't report combatstate correctly - you might have the same problem in reverse is my best guess

are you getting any red eq errors?

eq can also fail at spellcasts finishing if you are slightly in a wall, or standing directly on top of a campfire. worth checking those things as well.

but by the time we get around to actually "mq2shaman is casting" we've already validated the target, ensured it is ready and able to be cast upon the person etc
think it also can fail if you have more than 1 corpse and rezzing out of order
 
I've been playing a shaman from nearly the start and LOVE the class more than any other. I've been putting off getting the plugin cause I still want to have input in the game and it's a nuanced class at times. Is there a stance that will allow me to play the shaman for pulling and VP and driving while having the plugin do the healing and dps when in camp? If the answer is "no", is switching to the tank as group driver my best solution? I'm hoping it doesn't come to this as I've stopped using mercs and really want to do CoV with the shaman as main healer.

I use three other CWTN plugins and they are awesome. Waiting on the bard!
 
I've been playing a shaman from nearly the start and LOVE the class more than any other. I've been putting off getting the plugin cause I still want to have input in the game and it's a nuanced class at times. Is there a stance that will allow me to play the shaman for pulling and VP and driving while having the plugin do the healing and dps when in camp? If the answer is "no", is switching to the tank as group driver my best solution? I'm hoping it doesn't come to this as I've stopped using mercs and really want to do CoV with the shaman as main healer.

I use three other CWTN plugins and they are awesome. Waiting on the bard!
You can toggle pause on and off when you want to pull and do manual stuff vs when you want to do heals. Use mode 0 and the manage pause on/off manually.
 
I've been playing a shaman from nearly the start and LOVE the class more than any other. I've been putting off getting the plugin cause I still want to have input in the game and it's a nuanced class at times. Is there a stance that will allow me to play the shaman for pulling and VP and driving while having the plugin do the healing and dps when in camp? If the answer is "no", is switching to the tank as group driver my best solution? I'm hoping it doesn't come to this as I've stopped using mercs and really want to do CoV with the shaman as main healer.

I use three other CWTN plugins and they are awesome. Waiting on the bard!
your best bet is to test it for free with your lvl 2 Very Vanilla on the test server install to see if it works for you with your very specific needs/situation.

I personally always recommend driving/pulling with your tank (who hopefully is MA). you're botting, and driving the MA gives you a lot of flexibility to be able to tell the group what to do on the fly.

you're going to have less than desired results trying to wander around with your shaman as you're likely going to target things for buff purposes and swap targets for the tank etc, or even clear your target if its not the MAs target while you're wandering around.

I don't think that would be what you want it to be driving on the shaman.

but like whelps said, you can also pause and do things manually and then unpause when you get back to your camp.

but 100% you should try it on the test server before hand, because it sounds like you have a *very* specific way of doing things and this isn't likely going to accommodate that as is frequently the case with "ive been a xyz main for 75 years and i dream in xyz, i have a tattoo in each of my arms and legs of my first xyz, and named my 1st child, and all my dogs after my first xyz"... but it might. good luck!
 
your best bet is to test it for free with your lvl 2 Very Vanilla on the test server install to see if it works for you with your very specific needs/situation.

I personally always recommend driving/pulling with your tank (who hopefully is MA). you're botting, and driving the MA gives you a lot of flexibility to be able to tell the group what to do on the fly.

you're going to have less than desired results trying to wander around with your shaman as you're likely going to target things for buff purposes and swap targets for the tank etc, or even clear your target if its not the MAs target while you're wandering around.

I don't think that would be what you want it to be driving on the shaman.

but like whelps said, you can also pause and do things manually and then unpause when you get back to your camp.

but 100% you should try it on the test server before hand, because it sounds like you have a *very* specific way of doing things and this isn't likely going to accommodate that as is frequently the case with "ive been a xyz main for 75 years and i dream in xyz, i have a tattoo in each of my arms and legs of my first xyz, and named my 1st child, and all my dogs after my first xyz"... but it might. good luck!

True story, I named my very first class plugin after my very first character of that class.
 
Playing with the EMU version of the plugin and after purchasing Pack of the Wolf AA it's spamming it over and over again. Added Spell: Pack of the Wolf and Spell: Pact of the Wolf Effect to the blocked spells but the spamming behavior continues. Any advice?
 
Hard to say with EMU. EMU is so far removed from current live/TLP/Test version of EQ that often times spells will be spelled entirely different, other nuances may be present, and sometimes it's just outright some custom server stuff that causes issues. Which is one of the reasons the plugins are free there, because there's entirely too much involved with trying to keep them functional for all potential outcomes without actively playing on "insert server name here".

EMU versions of the plugin are available, but no support for them. If they happen to work right, then great. But otherwise there's not really much that can be done for it.

Some suggestions though would be to make sure something isn't overwritting it causing it to be recast. In my experience testing on EMU it was typically one buff being overwritten by another buff. So I had to add a bunch of stuff to block list so it would not overwrite the buff I wanted.
 
Greetings,
Thanks for the great job.

I have a problem with my shaman... lvl 155, full aa, full spells.
It doesn't dps.
The output sequence is

Spiritual swell
Ancient bargain
reckless renewal
Spiritual swell
reckless renewal and so on
AA communion of the cheetah


When i change the stance, it just memorize new spells, but it just keeps casting basic heal on the MT.
I have been trying Byos on/off... just nuke or just dot. (trash dies in around 20 sec)
I guess I'm doing something wrong but can't find what it is...
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If anyone has some hindsight.

Thanks in advance
 
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Greetings,
Thanks for the great job.

I have a problem with my shaman... lvl 155, full aa, full spells.
It doesn't dps.
The output sequence is

Spiritual swell
Ancient bargain
reckless renewal
Spiritual swell
reckless renewal and so on
AA communion of the cheetah


When i change the stance, it just memorize new spells, but it just keeps casting basic heal on the MT.
I have been trying Byos on/off... just nuke or just dot. (trash dies in around 20 sec)
I guess I'm doing something wrong but can't find what it is...
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If anyone has some hindsight.

Thanks in advance
hello gocus

you need your group main assist set - this is in your group window - once the mob is inside your campradius (red circle on your map), you have met your autoassistat value, you will assist your group main assist and start doing stuff to them.

couple of other things:
from the FAQ

Q. What is stance?
A. Stance are options for what kind of spell lineup to load automagically. currently: 0 is heal focused, 1 is hybrid heal/dps, and 2 is dps
(Stance change your spell loadout, not behavior)

I'm assuming you mean 115 and not 155 because that'd be cray-cray -
at 115 I wouldn't have UseCanniSpell on - you can keep mana just fine with your AA cannibalize - its not worth the spell slot imo. /shm usecannispell off

you should have usedot and usenuke turned on /shm usedot on and /shm usenuke on

but considering a few things that aren't happening, it is almost certainly either
a: you don't have a group mainassist set
b: somehow those mobs are staying outside your campradius (60 should be more than sufficient so i doubt it is this),
c: somehow/some reason you don't have your xtarget set to "Auto Add Hater Targets" (we actually turn this on when we load up, so if this is off you have something turning it off) - if this is the case you should right click your xtarget window and do that, and then your xtarget slots set to "Auto",
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or potentially d: your fights are just too short for the other stuff that it is doing meeting its settings, for example, you would only do the cannibalize *spell* if you had usecannispell (which again i suggest turning off at 115) and you were meeting your cannispellmana value, your reckless heals at your recklessMA/recklessNotMA values, and communion of the cheetah if you had usecheetah turned on (i personally turn this off as i have bard speed anyhow)

once you get your group MA and xtarget window sorted, and turn off things that you don't want to use, and adjust values for things so they do them when you want to do them, its very likely you'll start doing those things.

because you have usesquall turned on, and didn't mention that GiftDD was being used, it leads me to believe that it is more likely you don't have group main assist set (for a bunch of reasons based on how the priority and routine are programmed), or they are out of the campradius - I would disband your group, reinvite everyone, and re-assign your roles

If you don't want it to cast the heal stuff - you would adjust your respective heal values, go byos and not memorize anything, and if you didn't want to use squall you can turn off /shm usesquall off. no stance or byos or whatnot is going to entirely turn you into a wizard or a berzerker - we're still going to do our shaman-type stuff under burn conditions and what not and we're still going to do shaman stuff like trying to keep the MA alive and use our emergency stuff and AAs for those purposes

> Getting Started With the CWTN Plugins <
 
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Thanks a lot Sic,

The issue was the xtarget windows.
As soon as I added an auto slot in the Xtarget windows, that lazy shaman started doing dammages and working correctly, aka in my case, healing and doing some dps.

All my other toons were working fine, it was just that shamanic issue that was troubling me :)

Once again for the answer and the great job.
 
As of this week... my shaman wont cast winter gift with splash with all setting same. Normally shaman with pretty much cast it every time it refreshes. while doing other stuff inbetween.. Now since the patch to the redguides that happened, Splash doesnt get cast at all unless I manually press it.. especially in raid mode.
 
As of this week... my shaman wont cast winter gift with splash with all setting same. Normally shaman with pretty much cast it every time it refreshes. while doing other stuff inbetween.. Now since the patch to the redguides that happened, Splash doesnt get cast at all unless I manually press it.. especially in raid mode.
I would double-check that you have your MA set for group - and while in a raid, you have either a group MA set for your group if you are not in raidmode (and should have that anyhow for other abilities/purposes), or if you are in raidmode - a raidma assigned in your raid window and in your mq2shaman raidassist /shm raidassist #.

We pair squall with the healing twincast from the giftDD line - so if you don't have an MA and your assist values aren't being used because of such, you would only use squall as a group heal, and not as a "keep this rocking" like we do when we have the healing twincast buff.

we check your ma/raidma (depending on if you're in raidmode or not) and the mob it is targeting is within your campradius, which is the area to do stuff (this campradius value gets used even in a non-camp mode for a "radius to do stuff")
 
So right now the BST and Shaman both cast the Avatar line and Ferocity line but only in combat.

Can we get them spells added to the out of combat buffing also so they can keep the buff cycling through?
 
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So right now the Shaman cast the Avatar line but only in combat.

Can we get them spells added to the out of combat buffing also so they can keep the buff cycling through?

we specifically and intentionally only cast the single target avatar during combat.

Avatar consumes an emerald when cast, so if we're not fighting, we're not casting it.

Users asked back in december to have it changed to only cast in combat due to the component consumption and the short duration (otherwise you're just standing up and recasting all the time - I originally had it *only* cast out of combat due to the cast time - and i agreed to the change.
 
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we specifically and intentionally only cast the single target avatar during combat.

Avatar consumes an emerald when cast, so if we're not fighting, we're not casting it.

Users asked back in december to have it changed to only cast in combat due to the component consumption and the short duration (otherwise you're just standing up and recasting all the time - I originally had it *only* cast out of combat due to the cast time - and i agreed to the change.
I do understand that logic but Primal Avatar, Ancient Feral Avatar, and Ferine Avatar have no such component consumption. I should been a bit more specific.
 
I do understand that logic but Primal Avatar, Ancient Feral Avatar, and Ferine Avatar have no such component consumption. I should been a bit more specific.
i understand, and I know those don't have the component.

I don't plan on changing that at this time - I will have to rewrite to take into consideration specifically if it has a component requirement or not, but i will consider it.

I might see if i can squeeze this in before next live update
 
Classic Sic right here. For the new guys this is Sic's way of saying he will do it but he wants us to know how much work it is......LOL
nah not at all - its not intended to be a flex, or an insult, or a "this is so much work" or anything other than me just responding.

usually more like "there was a reason it wasn't already like that and we don't have a solution for it atm - and we're working on something atm so don't plan on doing this". which takes place after looking at the code and my notes about it if any, then determining that it is the way that is for a reason or not - then replying. then thinking more about the issue if it is a "yeah prolly change this" or a "no don't change this". then thinking about how we would change it. then sometimes - like in this case, i came up with a clever solution and did it right afterwards

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We add features that make sense, and when we have a way to do so that doesn't mess up a ton of other things. When we say we don't plan on doing something, it means we've considered the issue, we've discussed it among ourselves, and at the moment, it's not something we're going to add. It's possible we sort out a solution in the future that allows us to implement changes requested by users. But that just means we hear user feedback, we take the time to revisit issues/request frequently, and we try to incorporate as much as we can into the plugins that improves the experience for you, the user, to enjoy.
 
Does mq2shaman not have a next version? I just got it today and it will show when using live, but not mqnext.
 
Does mq2shaman not have a next version? I just got it today and it will show when using live, but not mqnext.
it sure does, there's a stickied thread called > CWTN and Next < that explains new purchases or re-subs require msging cwtn or myself to get manually added a license for next.

i just added you, run the launcher and should be good to go
 
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