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Plugin - MQ2Shaman (2 Viewers) 3.1.52471.11

How do I get it to cast the leopard proc line?
well i added lioness for next update, but we're still doing to use dissident over lioness - but if you decided to byos or you're lower lvl and have lioness, you'll use it next update
 
Awesome, thanks Sic :) <3
you're welcome!
bunch of other "lower lvl" stuff coming next update too - the lower lvl stuff is the stuff that gets the attention last - because for many classes, there is sloppy class design at early/middle stages before they kind of figure out a "standard" way of doing the class.

I created some developer functionality which allows me to force the plugin to load a spellset based on a level i specify - so I can more easily and effectively check out what spells get loaded for X level and ensure we don't have gaps - this will be huge in streamlining some of the spell loadout setups (which is one of the hardest parts of doing an out-of-the-box class-specific setup for 1-MaxLevel).
Also made adjustments for our group need buff check which allows me to specify a "max level" that I want to recieve the buff - this was needed when adding in the STAgi for tank classes, as the max "STAgi spell is like 62, BUUUUUT my 115 group is like "yo, the tank needs that STAgi spell from like 20 years ago, bro" - because Agi got replaced with "melee avoidance" type spells instead. but i didn't want to tell everyone they have to block that STAgi spell on their 115 tanks lol. A lot of work goes into this stuff, so I appreciate the patience everyone has while we get it all pimped out <3

of particular note for lower lvl stuff in patch (for shaman) will be things like:
- useavatar (with toggle --- it will only get used under 80 anyhow, but can toggle on/off)
- GroupFocus line was missing a 2 lvl 70 spells
- added STAgi for tank classes
- BreathDoT line was missing some lower lvl stuff
- Mending line had some spells in the wrong spots
 
The shaman spell Unity of spirits gets locked as a spam cast on a pet if the pet is active. just a heads up.

Shaman is in early to mid 80s. Seems the only way i can find to fix it is to turn the pet off.
 
The shaman spell Unity of spirits gets locked as a spam cast on a pet if the pet is active. just a heads up.

Shaman is in early to mid 80s. Seems the only way i can find to fix it is to turn the pet off.
Can you tell me which spell specifically is returning that it is blocked from? (this would be in red letters from everquest)
Something like this if i manually try and cast on my pet.
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block it on the pet. if it is casting it, mq2/eq is saying that it stacks on the pet and your pet needs it - so you'll have to either a: add it to your pet's blocked spells or b: turn off usefocus

There are several spells - usually spells with triggered spells that work like this. We actually expanded our buff checks to check triggered spells as well to try and eliminate some of the false positives, and I can't replicate it, so I'd be curious to see which spell is blocking it that says it can cast.

example: you can ${Spell[Unity of the Spirits].StacksTarget} on your pet and it will say "true", but if you ${Spell[Mammoth's Strength].StacksTarget} or any of the other trigger spells from it it should return False, in which case we would only buff if you can get one of the triggered spells.
 
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Not sure if one of my settings are incorrect but shaman nor enchanter seem to be using AoE Slow/Malo/Tash. I'll have a pull of 5 or so mobs, chanter mezes them all but none of them are debuffed. Just to confirm both UseSlowAoE=on and UseMaloAoE=on. I assume the plugin would notice there is more then 2 mobs on agro and use AoE Slow/Malo over single target.
 
Love the shaman plugin. Question, is there a way to turn off epic? I basically play my shaman on raids and like to let the plugin handle the routine stuff, but we always work to coordinate shaman epic with bard epic, so ideally would do that manually. I had to work to find anything I'd change with this very sweet plugin.
 
Not sure if one of my settings are incorrect but shaman nor enchanter seem to be using AoE Slow/Malo/Tash. I'll have a pull of 5 or so mobs, chanter mezes them all but none of them are debuffed. Just to confirm both UseSlowAoE=on and UseMaloAoE=on. I assume the plugin would notice there is more then 2 mobs on agro and use AoE Slow/Malo over single target.
its greater or equal to 3 mobs on xtarget (which is waiting for patch because it is greater than 3 atm, and should be greater than or equal to 3) and the spawncount around you is less than or equal to the amount of mobs you have on xtarget. You can tooltip mouseover the toggle and it tells you this.
 
Love the shaman plugin. Question, is there a way to turn off epic? I basically play my shaman on raids and like to let the plugin handle the routine stuff, but we always work to coordinate shaman epic with bard epic, so ideally would do that manually. I had to work to find anything I'd change with this very sweet plugin.
no
 
Crashing since the last update. is there a place I can go to get you all dumps and error messages. it's a pop that says mq2shaman crashed. please retry or cancel. both crash to desktop.
 
Crashing since the last update. is there a place I can go to get you all dumps and error messages. it's a pop that says mq2shaman crashed. please retry or cancel. both crash to desktop.
it is fixed in patch - its mentioned in a few places - its cause no MA - was my bad. will go away next time VV is built
 
Thanks Sic
YW, for the "released" plugins it is easy to just force push a built single file as an update to fix something like that, but pre-release stuff requires a full rebuild, unfortunately.

Chat and i pushed a bunch of updates to our "good to go" repo, so i'll see if i can sweet talk redbot into rebuilding for us all
 
its greater or equal to 3 mobs on xtarget (which is waiting for patch because it is greater than 3 atm, and should be greater than or equal to 3) and the spawncount around you is less than or equal to the amount of mobs you have on xtarget. You can tooltip mouseover the toggle and it tells you this.
if its currently working for greater than 3 but not equal to 3 than its not working for me. I often times have upwards of 8 in camp and no AoE Slow/Malo. Again I am not sure if it has something to do with them being mezed by chanter or having a chanter and shaman in the same group causes issues etc.
 
if its currently working for greater than 3 but not equal to 3 than its not working for me. I often times have upwards of 8 in camp and no AoE Slow/Malo. Again I am not sure if it has something to do with them being mezed by chanter or having a chanter and shaman in the same group causes issues etc.
well if your target is already pretty low on health, already has the debuff that your aoe gives or already slowed equal or greater you're not going to cast it
 
the targets are at 100% with no debuffs on them other then mez.
your ma's target is 100% and mezzed?

there is no way to get the current active buffs on mobs that we're not targetting - and we're only getting/checking that information for the current ma's target
 
your ma's target is 100% and mezzed?

there is no way to get the current active buffs on mobs that we're not targetting - and we're only getting/checking that information for the current ma's target
No, im saying that if tank pulls 8 mobs, he is on 1 of the 8 and the other 7 are mezed. Due to having 8 total mobs in camp I would assume it would use AoE Slow/Malo/Tash but it doesnt. I waits until the tank breaks mez, then single target debuffs.
 
No, im saying that if tank pulls 8 mobs, he is on 1 of the 8 and the other 7 are mezed. Due to having 8 total mobs in camp I would assume it would use AoE Slow/Malo/Tash but it doesnt. I waits until the tank breaks mez, then single target debuffs.
its possible you're out of date?

we had a rebuild with a bunch of stuff on the 11th (which has a crash in it if you don't have an MA btw) - it appears based on the dates on the other plugins that you updated on the 11th but before patch so you're out of date by quite a while? is that possible?

in fact i think that might be your situation since all your downloads show build date of
11/04 and 11/06
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versus
what was build for the previous live build.
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I believe red is re-building with some further pushes we made - with particular attention to that previously mentioned crash, so at this point you should probably just wait.

But you should definitely ensure you're running the up-to-date version.
 
its also possible its not a date issue - because those changes were some time ago - but at this point my #1 suggestion would be - wait till red rebuilds, patch, then play.

I'll add it to my list to take a look at (despite looking at it during this back and forth), but i haven't noticed any issue, and can't replicate a time where it should cast it and it fails to and i thoroughly enjoy watching it toggle languid bite for when it fires off virulent swarm and then toggle back

is it also possible that your mez is membluring some of the mobs and taking them off xtarget? because again, we do a check that the spawns in radius of your AoEAA is less than or equal the amount of mobs on your xtarget - which makes you not cast it and aggro mobs you didn't expect to fight.

so if your mez is membluring mobs and you have mobs around you that are mezzed, but not on xtarget, you're not going to cast it either.
 
Redbot updated MQ2Shaman with a new update entry:

11/15/2020

- Added UseAvatar toggle.
-- You will only useavatar at lower lvl (will stop memorizing at at 80 if you still had useavatar toggled on for some reason).
-- Avatar/GAvatar is set to buff melee classes.
- Updated "BreathDoT" line.
- Will now memorize a spell if you are not using spellcanni and you do not have DireDD yet.
- Added STAgi line for tank classes.
- Fixed missing GroupFocus Spells.
- Further Mending adjustment.
-...

Read the rest of this update entry...
 
My lvl 65 Shaman always casts the spell - 'Form of the Great Bear', so he always is a Bear. Not that I dont like bears, but how do I turn that off? Thanks!
 
My lvl 65 Shaman always casts the spell - 'Form of the Great Bear', so he always is a Bear. Not that I dont like bears, but how do I turn that off? Thanks!
add the spell to your blocked buffs
 
I was thinking about doing that, but I thought it would keep trying to put it back on. Will do it then. :) Thanks!
 
Love the CWTN plugins! Been trialing MQ2Shaman and a couple of things don't seem right to me.

Pet keeps dropping target on mobs and often Pet Greater Hold just turns itself on.
Each time Shaman gets hit by a mob, Spirit of the Enduring seems to drop or get overwritten by something and it gets memmed into slot 6 to put the buff back up. Not sure what is causing this?
 
Love the CWTN plugins! Been trialing MQ2Shaman and a couple of things don't seem right to me.

Pet keeps dropping target on mobs and often Pet Greater Hold just turns itself on.
Each time Shaman gets hit by a mob, Spirit of the Enduring seems to drop or get overwritten by something and it gets memmed into slot 6 to put the buff back up. Not sure what is causing this?
These don't sound like issues with mq2shaman.

if your pet is losing its target repeatedly - that is an eq problem and usually means the mob is in bad geography.

yes, we turn on pet greater hold if you have it (we do this on all the cwtn plugins).

imo, at 115 you shouldn't have useregen turned on - it will get overwritten by your dissident which means every time you are out of combat, you're going to rebuff with use regen.
 
Ok, that gives me something to try. I typically play a mage and haven't seen these type of targeting issues with mage pets. But now that I know Pet GHold is supposed to happen, I can work with that. I figured something was overwriting the Spirit of the Enduring, that helps so I will turn off useregen.
 
Hi Sic,

May I request a change in spell line up for Shaman namely spell gem 6 for focus / avatar. What happens is that if a group has focus wear off at different times it will de-mem avatar and mem focus. Problem with this is that avatar is a 3min spell gem refresh timer. So there are situations whereby the sham wont cast avatar for very long periods of time due to buffing focus. Could focus / avatar be moved to say spell gem 7 instead where nukes are currently mem'd ?

Thanks,
 
Hi Sic,

May I request a change in spell line up for Shaman namely spell gem 6 for focus / avatar. What happens is that if a group has focus wear off at different times it will de-mem avatar and mem focus. Problem with this is that avatar is a 3min spell gem refresh timer. So there are situations whereby the sham wont cast avatar for very long periods of time due to buffing focus. Could focus / avatar be moved to say spell gem 7 instead where nukes are currently mem'd ?

Thanks,
yeah I know about this and its "on the list"
 
Have an issue this morning. Freshly logged in. Group freshly established. Shaman is attempting to mem a spell (Frenzied Growth, though I don't think it matters which spell) AND use Lupine Spirit at the time. Results in a repeating cycle of sitting/standing where neither action is completed.

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this appears you are trying to run a macro on top of the plugin since we don't output to your mq2 window. I would strongly encourage you to not do that.
 
Hi Sic,

May I request a change in spell line up for Shaman namely spell gem 6 for focus / avatar. What happens is that if a group has focus wear off at different times it will de-mem avatar and mem focus. Problem with this is that avatar is a 3min spell gem refresh timer. So there are situations whereby the sham wont cast avatar for very long periods of time due to buffing focus. Could focus / avatar be moved to say spell gem 7 instead where nukes are currently mem'd ?

Thanks,
think i should be able to squeeze in those adjustments for the patch today
 
this appears you are trying to run a macro on top of the plugin since we don't output to your mq2 window. I would strongly encourage you to not do that.

Yeah. Started the macro on the wrong window. My bad. And why I deleted the entry. :confused:
 
Redbot updated MQ2Shaman with a new update entry:

11/17/2020

- Cracked the case of "The Missing UseHaste Ini Entry".
- Adjustments for ST Focus for pets only, which might cause other buffs to not occur.
- Low Lvl rez will now mem it if/when you need it (and are not in byos, and don't have Rejuvenation of Spirit).
- Adjusted spellgems to try and better accomodate low lvl avatar.

Read the rest of this update entry...
 
Today, after a system reboot, I loaded up the Red Guides Launcher and MQ2Shamman is no longer listed under my plugins section. I've got MQ2 Cleric, MQ2Eskay, MQ2Berzerker, and MQ2Rogue. But...MQ2Shamman is nowhere to be found. I double checked to make sure I was following this thread. Is there something else I should be looking at?

The reason I went down this pathway is that my shaman is stuck in a loop where the plugin mems a spell into slot 4, then mems a different spell into slot 4...then just goes back and forth in an endless loop. I have to unload the plugin to stop it. Here's a screenshot:

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So I went to check if I needed to reload or reinstall the plugin...and it's just not even in my list anymore...

Any help or guidance would be appreciated.

The character is level 81 and I'm on the Ragefire server (TLP).


Kak
 
Today, after a system reboot, I loaded up the Red Guides Launcher and MQ2Shamman is no longer listed under my plugins section. I've got MQ2 Cleric, MQ2Eskay, MQ2Berzerker, and MQ2Rogue. But...MQ2Shamman is nowhere to be found. I double checked to make sure I was following this thread. Is there something else I should be looking at?

The reason I went down this pathway is that my shaman is stuck in a loop where the plugin mems a spell into slot 4, then mems a different spell into slot 4...then just goes back and forth in an endless loop. I have to unload the plugin to stop it. Here's a screenshot:

View attachment 25708

So I went to check if I needed to reload or reinstall the plugin...and it's just not even in my list anymore...
Any help or guidance would be appreciated.
The character is level 81 and I'm on the Ragefire server (TLP).
Kak
sorry about the troubles

the pre-release plugins aren't something you will see on your plugins tab since they are "included" during pre-release. only "purchased" plugins you will see in the plugin tab

re: the spell meming - likely due to the rework this past week trying to accomodate a bunch of requests.
I have a fix for it already, but it will also be fixed if you buy the Turgur's Virulent Swarm AA which you have access to by this point on ragefire at lvl 80. in the mean time you will either have to byos, or purchase that AA to make that bug stop. :(
 
Hi Sic, sorry to be a pain but can we have a toggle for all pet classes (or at least shaman only) to buff pets? As avatar is now working great !!! Its awesome being a group of say War / Pal / Shd / Shaman / Mage and the shaman is buffing his own pet and mage pet (if it summoned earth elemental) with Avatar before the PC's. I mean dont get me wrong i appreciate the extra 2dps from the shaman pet with avatar, but i rather save the buffs for the real PC's :) . So it would be great if we can have a toggle if we can skip buffing pets.

PS i know i can just block avatar on my pets, but it would mean for every class that has a War type pet, you have to block it all the shaman spells as it would waste mana and time buffing low level pets.

Not sure your thoughts on this one?
 
Hi Sic, sorry to be a pain but can we have a toggle for all pet classes (or at least shaman only) to buff pets? As avatar is now working great !!! Its awesome being a group of say War / Pal / Shd / Shaman / Mage and the shaman is buffing his own pet and mage pet (if it summoned earth elemental) with Avatar before the PC's. I mean dont get me wrong i appreciate the extra 2dps from the shaman pet with avatar, but i rather save the buffs for the real PC's :) . So it would be great if we can have a toggle if we can skip buffing pets.

PS i know i can just block avatar on my pets, but it would mean for every class that has a War type pet, you have to block it all the shaman spells as it would waste mana and time buffing low level pets.

Not sure your thoughts on this one?
we currently don't have a way to not buff pets with our buff routine, but as you said, you already have a method to not do that buff on your pet. you can block buffs on pets if you don't want them to have the buff. any blocked buffs gets ignore/skipped.

there are reasons why its more complicated than just not buffing pets or just adding a toggle.

tl;dr - Yes I'm aware. Block anything you don't want for the time being.

edit: just to clarify, this is something on my near-to-do agenda
 
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