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Plugin - MQ2Paladin (1 Viewer) 3.1.52471.11

Q: I am running a custom Byos and I have Mark of the Eclipsed Cohort in a spell gem. Any way this can be given more wight to cast at the start of a fight? Most the time it is cast when mob is below half or not at all.
 
Q: I am running a custom Byos and I have Mark of the Eclipsed Cohort in a spell gem. Any way this can be given more wight to cast at the start of a fight? Most the time it is cast when mob is below half or not at all.
sure i can take a look at that, would make sense you'd want it up early if you had it memorized/wanting to use it
 
RedMan updated MQ2Paladin with a new update entry:

9/24/2022

- Adjusted usage position of ReverseDS and ReverseDSCharges
-- if you have this memorized, you obviously want to use it early in your rotation
- Added UsePreservation toggle
- Added UseStance toggle
- Splash/brilliant changes for twincast:
-- if splash is memorized (be it byos, custom-byos, memsplash etc) and SplashCureOnly is off, brilliant as usual.
-- if you don't have splash memorized, brilliant as usual
-- if SplashCureOnly (and memorized) we won't check if we can brillant outside of...

Read the rest of this update entry...
 
I saw Necro had some clicky stuff already built in if you have the item, like the OMM Robe. I do not see any 'built in' clickies for MQ Paladin, will there be later (I know its still early in release). I also do not see it have the 2.0 Nightbane Epic listed in the startup like MQ Shaman message looks for.
 
I saw Necro had some clicky stuff already built in if you have the item, like the OMM Robe. I do not see any 'built in' clickies for MQ Paladin, will there be later (I know its still early in release). I also do not see it have the 2.0 Nightbane Epic listed in the startup like MQ Shaman message looks for.
we don't currently use epic (and are undecided whether to add it or not) - my notes were to use it during spire or outside of armor of inquis / group armor of inquis ('ll probably have the it fill that gap), but i'll take some look into it - i don't have the item, so will need to get it i guess =p

we'll always say if we do (if you have it will say you have it, if you don't will say you're missing it)

edit: i did have it, trying to find my notes on why i removed it
 
Looking fantastic at lvl 60 so far! Did have one slight issue leveling up the cleric, they had got caught in a loop overwriting eachother doing Blessing of Temperance on cleric and Blessing of Austerity on Pally but fixed itself once cleric had leveled up enough to use Aego. Not even sure if thats an issue worth fixing because of the specific levels on it but figured I'd mention it.

But runs absolutely beautiful from what I've seen otherwise! Good work
 
Looking fantastic at lvl 60 so far! Did have one slight issue leveling up the cleric, they had got caught in a loop overwriting eachother doing Blessing of Temperance on cleric and Blessing of Austerity on Pally but fixed itself once cleric had leveled up enough to use Aego. Not even sure if thats an issue worth fixing because of the specific levels on it but figured I'd mention it.

But runs absolutely beautiful from what I've seen otherwise! Good work
Well this is one of the things always mentioned in the faq with conflicting buffs, you can block any spell you don't want. Some spells overwrite and you can get in a buffing contest
 
Hey did some more work with it - The activation of disruptive Persecution - There are times it works once per fight, and others it doesn't get cast at all. It's a core ability, should try to get it on |mash| (kissassist reference). lol
 
Hey did some more work with it - The activation of disruptive Persecution - There are times it works once per fight, and others it doesn't get cast at all. It's a core ability, should try to get it on |mash| (kissassist reference). lol
it works when it is supposed to. keep in mind we're using it to keep up yaulp - we're not going to spam it.

I certainly don't need a reference to mash in kissassist :) if you want to use kissassist you should unload the plugin

and no - we're not doing other stuff i already said no to.

Q: Yes we know about some "sploits" with buffs/AAs/threat.
A: No, we're not doing that.
 
Clicking UseBlessing in the interface works.

/pal useblessing on mems and casts Brell's...
it does! thanks, will fix (can just unload and load plugin again to grab the setting form the ini)
 
Sic, Can you please check if the last update is not part of the MQ build. I took this screenie and then wanted to update to the latest plugin, but even after updating MQ, this date/time still is on the plugin. If I'm doing it wrong, just lemme know.

Secondly, I wanted to make a little list for anyone to add to for Paladin Clickies and see where others would put them for best usage. KA ini's have a lot of nice info but a list for our CWTN stuff might be good too.
Some of these are not needed such as Nightbane ( I added it before the Epiq update) and Drowned Mariner is a bit meh.. but I just started adding stuff to test it out.
Some of the ones below maybe best in the Burn section, opinions anyone? Add yours to the list.
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Sic, Can you please check if the last update is not part of the MQ build. I took this screenie and then wanted to update to the latest plugin, but even after updating MQ, this date/time still is on the plugin. If I'm doing it wrong, just lemme know.

Secondly, I wanted to make a little list for anyone to add to for Paladin Clickies and see where others would put them for best usage. KA ini's have a lot of nice info but a list for our CWTN stuff might be good too.
Some of these are not needed such as Nightbane ( I added it before the Epiq update) and Drowned Mariner is a bit meh.. but I just started adding stuff to test it out.
Some of the ones below maybe best in the Burn section, opinions anyone? Add yours to the list.
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The swarm pets that paladins can use, including the bunny and erudite pirate, are a DPS loss. You'll do more damage with melee swings in that time than you would with summoning a swarm pet. Just FYI ;)
edit: except for the aggro pet, which is insta-cast.
 
I had it running on my 111 Pal, who isnt very geared tbh, and wow it rocked, cant wait see what it does once it hits 120 :D

Whats the difference between BYos and Custom Byos?
 
The swarm pets that paladins can use, including the bunny and erudite pirate, are a DPS loss. You'll do more damage with melee swings in that time than you would with summoning a swarm pet. Just FYI ;)
edit: except for the aggro pet, which is insta-cast.
Hi Blank :)
I totally agree with what you are saying, I added it to see if it would wind up helping my mage DPS with another pet or two up type thing..I have not tested it out well enough yet, my thoughts are the Pirate is not up long enough to time it well for the Mage spell. I was going to get my pal the Bunny from Loyalty, and I forgot to add the Cloth Cap (I do have that go off on the rest of the group through CWTN plugins, and I think its made a big DPS difference). Love the feedback !!
 
Yes don't add all that stuff to clickies imo, you don't have the luxury of fluff while tanking and will get people killed.

The build is the build if your compiled date is old, it means that is the date MQ was built (because that is what we use for that display), meaning you likely aren't patched for your screenie. But the build pulls everything and builds it
 
The swarm pets that paladins can use, including the bunny and erudite pirate, are a DPS loss. You'll do more damage with melee swings in that time than you would with summoning a swarm pet. Just FYI ;)
edit: except for the aggro pet, which is insta-cast.
100% agree with this, glad you brought it up.

Bunny is a gross offender for dps loss.

You also really don't want to be casting fluff if you're trying to tank a good chunk of the time
 
meaning you likely aren't patched for your screenie.
Right, I was not then, but I did quit everything (EQ, MQ, EQBCS and Launcher) and loaded everything and patched in launcher and MQ Paladin still shows the same date/time after.
 
Right, I was not then, but I did quit everything (EQ, MQ, EQBCS and Launcher) and loaded everything and patched in launcher and MQ Paladin still shows the same date/time after.
so got an answer after looking into/at it - this date comes from when our library changes, so since no changes were made to the library that paladin is being compiled against, it doesn't change the date there. I'll look at if we can do it specific to the plugin being built and not the library itself
 
so got an answer after looking into/at it - this date comes from when our library changes, so since no changes were made to the library that paladin is being compiled against, it doesn't change the date there. I'll look at if we can do it specific to the plugin being built and not the library itself
Appreciate your time, while I don;t know its 'importance', to me it just seems I am not updated, and have no idea why. So I was only using the time there as some basis to report. My MQ Cleric and Paladin both say "0.10 Initialized" so I used the date/time. I did see the UseBlessing option, which I think was not there upon launch. I do not see this Epic check equivalence in Paladin though, should I?
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Appreciate your time, while I don;t know its 'importance', to me it just seems I am not updated, and have no idea why. So I was only using the time there as some basis to report. My MQ Cleric and Paladin both say "0.10 Initialized" so I used the date/time. I did see the UseBlessing option, which I think was not there upon launch. I do not see this Epic check equivalence in Paladin though, should I?
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yes, we don't really use/stay up on the versioning because of how things are built and shipped so yes, all the plugins have various 0.1 1.0 etc "versions".

UseBlessing fix was the latest update (but has been in there for several builds now

and yes, the epic code is in there - i haven't finished mine yet, but the code is there and it tell you if you don't have it, so if you don't have this, i'd suggest rebooting, then patching, then logging in

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this is from the mq2paladin from the launcher (not local build)
 
I've been running this on my 115 pally and wow....didn't know pallies were great like that! They were one of my least fav tanks but you two are showing me a whole new world! Thank you and cheers!
 
I've been running this on my 115 pally and wow....didn't know pallies were great like that! They were one of my least fav tanks but you two are showing me a whole new world! Thank you and cheers!
"a whoooole neeeew wooooooorld"

i didn't know we were giving carpet rides
 
yes, we don't really use/stay up on the versioning because of how things are built and shipped so yes, all the plugins have various 0.1 1.0 etc "versions".

UseBlessing fix was the latest update (but has been in there for several builds now

and yes, the epic code is in there - i haven't finished mine yet, but the code is there and it tell you if you don't have it, so if you don't have this, i'd suggest rebooting, then patching, then logging in

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this is from the mq2paladin from the launcher (not local build)
Thanks, I have 2.0 in my bags. Does not recognize anything or shows the check happening. Ill look and see if my wife's old account still has a low level pally there that never did any of the epic quests and see if it acknowledges it.
 
Sic, Can you please check if the last update is not part of the MQ build. I took this screenie and then wanted to update to the latest plugin, but even after updating MQ, this date/time still is on the plugin. If I'm doing it wrong, just lemme know.

Secondly, I wanted to make a little list for anyone to add to for Paladin Clickies and see where others would put them for best usage. KA ini's have a lot of nice info but a list for our CWTN stuff might be good too.
Some of these are not needed such as Nightbane ( I added it before the Epiq update) and Drowned Mariner is a bit meh.. but I just started adding stuff to test it out.
Some of the ones below maybe best in the Burn section, opinions anyone? Add yours to the list.
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Doh! I forgot to add any of my clickeis... Thanks for the reminder.
 
I thought the entire idea of the bunnies was to boost the Mages DPS for their shock of many type spells? Is this not the case?
 
I thought the entire idea of the bunnies was to boost the Mages DPS for their shock of many type spells? Is this not the case?
It is still the case, the idea in this situation though is that the tank may waste DPS/spell aggro casting time on a Bunny or other pet. It may work in the favor of the Mage if the timing is right and amount of pets up at the time mage casts is aligned right..versus the Paladin doing his main group focus (Tanking duties, most would be using this way, but not all). On an Undead fight, that Bunny cast versus the Sword swing would likely be a huge DPS loss...depends on group makeup too. But thats the point of my earlier post, just to get some discussion about good/bad strategies. While I have a decent KA ini, I know my main goal is to use MQ Paladin as my main tool. I think a lot will love it as they discover it too.
 
Again thanks for all your work on these plugins... You make the game sooo much more enjoyable for me... You has also turned me in to an addict even more so than normal.... Plugins are like Pokemon.... got to get them alll :)

Same, Sic & CWTN make the game enjoyable and reduce a lot of the tedium. So, chill just to lean back not mash the my main multi-bind key a thousand times an hour.
 
@Redfrog so the epic code is in there, and it definitely checks and uses it but it was *definitely* missing the "hey we have epic" --- well it had that bit but the epic name in that part was empty :p

it'll be in next build (it currently uses it so not forcing a build just for that text output)
 
I was looking for the purchase button!!! I love that you worked on a paladin <3 Using the program - free trial is all I can think to call it - and so far - so good! I could never muster this kind of damage out of her before, now I am keeping up with the rest of the group for DPS. Thank you so much for all the work I know you must have put into the programming! <3
 
I was looking for the purchase button!!! I love that you worked on a paladin <3 Using the program - free trial is all I can think to call it - and so far - so good! I could never muster this kind of damage out of her before, now I am keeping up with the rest of the group for DPS. Thank you so much for all the work I know you must have put into the programming! <3
thanks fearflow

will be in "pre-release" for a couple weeks
 
Lv 100 heroic toon now 108 using this plugin exclusively. I've yet to run into any issues with it. Paladin is performing much better than expected and is proving to be quite fun to drive with. With conflag gear I am able to easily handle tanking GMM grind instance, which I likely wouldn't have been able to do manually.
 
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