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MQ2Enchanter

Plugin - MQ2Enchanter (1 Viewer) 3.1.52471.11

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Good morning folks.

I have watched all of the class plugin videos and they are very helpful. I also keep open the wiki/command page which i have open now.
I am wanting to have the auras that my enchanter has on by default to be Aura1 > combatinitiate and Aura2 twincast.
My Enchanter INI is

Aura1=3
Aura2=6

Is this the correct syntax and set up?

Thanks!
 
You don't edit the INI.

Aura:
/enc aura for information
example: /enc aura 1 1 to make it use Learners Aura for aura 1
example: /enc aura 2 6 to make it use Twincast Aura for aura 2
0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, for Mana, Learners, SpellFocus, CombatInnate, Disempower, Rune, Twincast
0 - mana
1 - learners
2 - spellfocus
3 - combatinnate
4 - disempower
5 - rune
6 - twincast

/enc aura 1 3
/enc aura 2 6

Should be using the commands.
 
I believe I'm running the latest version of the plugin and still seeing issues with the auras on my level 85 running on a TLP.

When using the /enc aura command followed by /enc removeauras to switch auras it's consistently double casting the first aura.

It's also casting mana reiterate when the aura is up. While I suspect I could block it, it'd be nice if it was smart enough to avoid the redundant buff.


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Also, is there any way to get access to the source for these CWTN mods? I didn't see them in the Very Vanilla gitlab repo.
 
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dirac said:
I believe I'm running the latest version of the plugin and still seeing issues with the auras on my level 85 running on a TLP.

When using the /enc aura command followed by /enc removeauras to switch auras it's consistently double casting the first aura.

It's also casting mana reiterate when the aura is up. While I suspect I could block it, it'd be nice if it was smart enough to avoid the redundant buff.


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Also, is there any way to get access to the source for these CWTN mods? I didn't see them in the Very Vanilla gitlab repo.
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No they are not public, I'll take a look

Also gonna delete your image since toon name is in it

edit: we also intentionally cast the buff even while the aura is up. Aura's and their application of them are very inconsistent, and frankly a broken system. you can also turn off use replication if you don't want to use replication (which is just the single buff/spell and not the aura.

I'll look at the double-casting thing
 
Sic said:
No they are not public, I'll take a look

Also gonna delete your image since toon name is in it

edit: we also intentionally cast the buff even while the aura is up. Aura's and their application of them are very inconsistent, and frankly a broken system. you can also turn off use replication if you don't want to use replication (which is just the single buff/spell and not the aura.

I'll look at the double-casting thing
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Thanks Sic. I didn't recognize mana replication as being in the mana flare line, I'll give that a try.
 
purchased chanter plugin today. watched all the videos, loaded the plugin. ran into a couple issues.

First, it required a mesh update that I do not remember seeing anywhere in the videos or posts anywhere. small fix.

There was another post where the chanter chain cast mezz. My bard is set as the MA, even says in the MQ window >>MainAssist >> BardName << has awakened ->MobName.
 
I am assuming you mean MQ2enchanter since you said plugin. this will get moved to its area.

Mostly good to keep your meshes up to date. I would be happy for that.

If your set to AE mez, chanter is gonna AE mez. bard (or any MA) doesnt respect that, its gonna find its primary target and kill. so you will get MA broke mez (its doing its job and chanter is doing its).
 
durango773 said:
I am assuming you mean MQ2enchanter since you said plugin. this will get moved to its area.

Mostly good to keep your meshes up to date. I would be happy for that.

If your set to AE mez, chanter is gonna AE mez. bard (or any MA) doesnt respect that, its gonna find its primary target and kill. so you will get MA broke mez (its doing its job and chanter is doing its).
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thanks for the super quick response. First question would be, why would mq2enchanter be using AoE Mezz for a single target. that makes zero sense at all.

2nd question. As usual I am being told the post is in the wrong place. I put it under plug-in discussion. should it have been under mq2chanter discussion even though there isnt a help section for it?

Thanks
Kat
 
To answer your first question, it'd require your AoE setting to be 1.

To answer your second question, usually I think they like it under the resource you are asking questions about. This is more of a "What plugin is best for.." or something area. Not a huge deal just if you want a better faster answer. Or someone just moves it to the plugin in question. + it stops the several layers of which automation are we talking about here.

For the topic at hand, isn't there a setting in there to use mez to trigger twincast for dps? Chaotic mez or something? I'm too low for it but remember it being talked about.
 
Heya Allekat,

I think we could use a bit more detail about the issue you're having to try and help you with it as it seems unclear, at least to me =) I run both and enc and brd in my group from time to time so again, assuming mq2enchanter for this discussion;

AlleyKat777 said:
There was another post where the chanter chain cast mezz. My bard is set as the MA, even says in the MQ window >>MainAssist >> BardName << has awakened ->MobName.
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This message can happen anytime a group member breaks an enchanters mez. MA has nothing to do with who will mez. The automation you use and its settings decide that. What automation are you using for the brd?

AlleyKat777 said:
2nd question. As usual I am being told the post is in the wrong place. I put it under plug-in discussion. should it have been under mq2chanter discussion even though there isnt a help section for it?
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Yup, all discussion about a specific plugin belongs under that plugin so others can search it later for questions/answers they have.
 

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Psy said:
Heya Allekat,

I think we could use a bit more detail about the issue you're having to try and help you with it as it seems unclear, at least to me =) I run both and enc and brd in my group from time to time so again, assuming mq2enchanter for this discussion;


This message can happen anytime a group member breaks an enchanters mez. MA has nothing to do with who will mez. The automation you use and its settings decide that. What automation are you using for the brd?


It wouldn't unless your AOE mez is set to 1. What is your AOE mez # set at? - View attachment 52278


Yup, all discussion about a specific plugin belongs under that plugin so others can search it later for questions/answers they have.
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Yup. currently in the /enc show menu it says AoECount 2. I never changed it. No matter what changes I have tried to make in the settings so far, has failed. The chanter insists on trying to mezz the mob, and I wont lie, its not been a good day so far, and this wwas supposed to be an "out of the box" solution and it isnt working.

Psy, I am not concerned that the MA broke the mezz. What I am concerned about, is the chanter is casting mezz non stop. It wont cast anything else during combat.
 
bet you its:

Q. Why does it cast Chaotic on the mob we're fighting?
A. We use Chaotic for purposes of the twincast it gives.
If you don't want it to use Chaotic you can /enc UseChaotic off

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So your casting it to proc twin cast effect, even on a single target. will look like your mezzing for no reason (but there is the reason).
 
^^^ - What Durango said

Can also /enc usemez off if you want the brd to handle it instead.
 
durango773 said:
bet you its:

Q. Why does it cast Chaotic on the mob we're fighting?
A. We use Chaotic for purposes of the twincast it gives.
If you don't want it to use Chaotic you can /enc UseChaotic off

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So your casting it to proc twin cast effect, even on a single target. will look like your mezzing for no reason (but there is the reason).
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That is certainly an answer I could work with. But the chanter is not casting any other spells at all. just chaotic. and unless I am reading the spell descrip wrong, the only one who benefits from that proc is the chanter?
 
AlleyKat777 said:
Yup. currently in the /enc show menu it says AoECount 2. I never changed it. No matter what changes I have tried to make in the settings so far, has failed. The chanter insists on trying to mezz the mob, and I wont lie, its not been a good day so far, and this wwas supposed to be an "out of the box" solution and it isnt working.

Psy, I am not concerned that the MA broke the mezz. What I am concerned about, is the chanter is casting mezz non stop. It wont cast anything else during combat.
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It's possible you've somehow managed to find an area where the mobs just don't appear to be mezzed according to the plugin. I'd need to know what you're fighting to be able to investigate it. Name of the mob and the zone would be infinitely helpful in this situation.

For mez to work appropriately you would as you mentioned need to set the MA (main assist) to group member that would be who everyone would assist. If you are attacking multiple things at the same time in camp then the enchanter will automatically attempt to remez anything that isn't the group main assist target.

It's also true that we use the Chaotic line of mezzes to get twin cast. But the enchanter shouldn't be only casting mezzes unless you constantly have things that aren't mezzed on xtarget.
 
bytebite said:
What spell is the char casting? I don't know how we got on AoE mez since I don't see if you even mention it is the AoE version.
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The chanter is casting Chaotic Puzzlement nonstop. We took a brief detour into the AoE side of things, because if you set you AoE to 1, the plugin will think you have aggro, and try to mezz nonstop. It's the same with the KA .ini files.
 
AlleyKat777 said:
The chanter is casting Chaotic Puzzlement nonstop. We took a brief detour into the AoE side of things, because if you set you AoE to 1, the plugin will think you have aggro, and try to mezz nonstop. It's the same with the KA .ini files.
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Enchanter doesn't use AoECount for mezzing. It does use it for Tash if you have the TashAA. It also uses it for Enveloping Helix AA.
 
ChatWithThisName said:
It's possible you've somehow managed to find an area where the mobs just don't appear to be mezzed according to the plugin. I'd need to know what you're fighting to be able to investigate it. Name of the mob and the zone would be infinitely helpful in this situation.

For mez to work appropriately you would as you mentioned need to set the MA (main assist) to group member that would be who everyone would assist. If you are attacking multiple things at the same time in camp then the enchanter will automatically attempt to remez anything that isn't the group main assist target.

It's also true that we use the Chaotic line of mezzes to get twin cast. But the enchanter shouldn't be only casting mezzes unless you constantly have things that aren't mezzed on xtarget.
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Hiya CWTN. Currently I am in Cobalt Scar (CoV) while I am testing out the plug-in. The mobs are all restless othmir. Single pulls. No adds. the chanter goes straight to the mezz spell.
Is there some possibility that the KA .ini file and the mq2 plug-in are causing issues for each other? I can always rename the KA .ini file. (I didnt load the KA .ini file for the chanter, only the plug-in)

Also, it might be covered somewhere else, but the chanter is currently in manual mode (enc mode 0) and still trying to mezz. the videos are older, and that might have been changed since they were made, but according to the video isnt supposed to try to mezz while in manual mode

Psy said:
^^^ - What Durango said

Can also /enc usemez off if you want the brd to handle it instead.
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defeats the purpose of a chanter in group if you disable mezz.

durango773 said:
bet you its:

Q. Why does it cast Chaotic on the mob we're fighting?
A. We use Chaotic for purposes of the twincast it gives.
If you don't want it to use Chaotic you can /enc UseChaotic off

View attachment 52279

So your casting it to proc twin cast effect, even on a single target. will look like your mezzing for no reason (but there is the reason).
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I wonder what spell the plug-in will try to use if I disable that spell? I need the chanter to mezz, whole point (in my opinion) to keep a chanter in group is for mezzing
Edit: I logged out and back in, and in the middle of all the mq2 spam I saw this line:
Updated: SingleMez: Addle Rk II.
Guess that answers that question.
 
AlleyKat777 said:
Hiya CWTN. Currently I am in Cobalt Scar (CoV) while I am testing out the plug-in. The mobs are all restless othmir. Single pulls. No adds. the chanter goes straight to the mezz spell.
Is there some possibility that the KA .ini file and the mq2 plug-in are causing issues for each other? I can always rename the KA .ini file. (I didnt load the KA .ini file for the chanter, only the plug-in)

Also, it might be covered somewhere else, but the chanter is currently in manual mode (enc mode 0) and still trying to mezz. the videos are older, and that might have been changed since they were made, but according to the video isnt supposed to try to mezz while in manual mode
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Well you should definitely not use KA and the Enchanter plugin at the same time. You mention you didn't load the KA ini file for the chanter, only the plugin which is a good thing.
I'll investigate the zone, but the plugin did work in CoV prior. Short of a change on DBGs side, there should be no issues with mezzing.

If you would like you can send me a Private message of a screensnip of it happening and it may give me some insight as to what is going on. I would want the MQ window and the Enchanter plugin window with the plugin output tab visible in the screen snip. Again, please make sure to send it in Private message.

Okay, so based on the screenshot the bard is not assigned the group role of MA. You may be using them as the Kissassist MA, but you need to set their group role. Based on the screenshot the bard is the leader. So you need to go to the bard and right click their health box and then set their role as the group Main assist.

To caveat on this. All of the CWTN Plugins use the role of main assist to determine who to help. Without the role assigned, the plugins have no idea who they should help. In the case of Enchanter, it's also used to decide how to handle crowd control. When the role of main assist is assigned, the enchanter will mez any xtarget that isn't immune to mez, is within the level requirements of your current mez spell, and is not currently the main assists target. If you don't have a role of main assist assigned, then the plugin assumes that anything in the camp needs to be mezzed.
 
I did get them. But I then responded in this thread. I wanted the screenshots in PM to avoid you sharing your character names and such publicly. But the information about the issue, and the resolution should remain in the thread in the event someone else has the issue.

Okay, so based on the screenshot the bard is not assigned the group role of MA. You may be using them as the Kissassist MA, but you need to set their group role. Based on the screenshot the bard is the leader. So you need to go to the bard and right click their health box and then set their role as the group Main assist.

To caveat on this. All of the CWTN Plugins use the role of main assist to determine who to help. Without the role assigned, the plugins have no idea who they should help. In the case of Enchanter, it's also used to decide how to handle crowd control. When the role of main assist is assigned, the enchanter will mez any xtarget that isn't immune to mez, is within the level requirements of your current mez spell, and is not currently the main assists target. If you don't have a role of main assist assigned, then the plugin assumes that anything in the camp needs to be mezzed.
 
ChatWithThisName said:
I did get them. But I then responded in this thread. I wanted the screenshots in PM to avoid you sharing your character names and such publicly. But the information about the issue, and the resolution should remain in the thread in the event someone else has the issue.

Okay, so based on the screenshot the bard is not assigned the group role of MA. You may be using them as the Kissassist MA, but you need to set their group role. Based on the screenshot the bard is the leader. So you need to go to the bard and right click their health box and then set their role as the group Main assist.

To caveat on this. All of the CWTN Plugins use the role of main assist to determine who to help. Without the role assigned, the plugins have no idea who they should help. In the case of Enchanter, it's also used to decide how to handle crowd control. When the role of main assist is assigned, the enchanter will mez any xtarget that isn't immune to mez, is within the level requirements of your current mez spell, and is not currently the main assists target. If you don't have a role of main assist assigned, then the plugin assumes that anything in the camp needs to be mezzed.
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Makes sense to respond in forums, in case anyone else has this issue.
And for the record, anyone reading this should know CWTN and Sic do awesome coding work. The error was mine. I use KA on my other toons. And when using KA, you target the MA when you fire up the macro. And that's it. From then on, the toons running KA will assist that person. The error I made was a simple one. CWTN plug-ins require you to pick the MA in-game, as CWTN pointed out. It works just fine when you do that. Altho I dont remember in the videos Sic mentioning it.

Awesome work, and thanks for the great support. :) :)
Kat
 
double aura casting is still in effect. i find i have to pause my enchanter every time it's time for refresh to get the right auras on.
 
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Getting crashes constantly since updating. Not sure if there is something more I can share but this is happening within minutes of assisting. Sometimes even when just clicking "settings" page.



Have deleted the chars.ini to see if there was an old setting causing this but no dice. Unusable at the moment.
 
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I have rolled back to 1774 and not crashing but the MQ2Enchanter window in both versions is getting spammed with info that never used to go there.
 
Indeed I did but that was after I was crashing and saw the spam. Have just overwritten with my old one so little muddled as to whether the debug=true was on or not. Gimme a mo to reset with the older build and see if it does it still.
 
Lemony said:
Indeed I did but that was after I was crashing and saw the spam. Have just overwritten with my old one so little muddled as to whether the debug=true was on or not. Gimme a mo to reset with the older build and see if it does it still.
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well yes, that is debug spam.

if you turned on debug spam, you'll get debugspam.
 
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