Just want to start this off with the fact that I have used BitDefender Total Security software for about 5 years now. I have 5 different PC's with it installed (one of them is my mother in laws PC, sheesh what a relief that was). I have recommended it to my friends and family. And I am about ready to CANCEL my subscription. I am so sick of these software companies telling me what I can and cannot do on MY PC. All of them spying on me and selling my information to the highest bidder. Makes my teeth grind I tell you.
Anyways, make yourself comfortable gents as this will take a few minutes. Go get a beer or whatever.
So on Thursday night I receive a DB push from BitDefender and a notification to Restart my PC for it to take effect. OK np at all. So the next day I go to start my newly minted 6 man group from ISBoxer and that's when things go all sideways on me. BitDefender goes all apeshit on me and everything grinds to a halt. It said it had found a threat and was quarantining it. I am like WTH? so I start digging into it and found it had :
Quarantined a file named fdlWCQt3.exe in my MQ2 folder for being a "spawned process" and
Blocked testrunner.exe, k2g3q23v.exe, MacroQuest.exe, crashpad_handeler.exe from my MQ2 folder and
eqgame.exe from my EQ folder and
conhost.exe from my \windows\system32 folder AND
subsequently DELETED eqgame.exe
Man was I pissed. All I could say was "WHAT!" "WHY!" and a bunch of swear words that I can't write here, well I could but you don't need to hear them.
So I finally calmed down after the wife came in and gave me that "look", you know what I mean. Went out to the back porch and had a smoke, came back and started trouble shooting.
Started with fdlWCQt3.exe, what the hell is that? Well I found references to it from, oh I don't know, 50 other programs that use it. I am sure you programmer types are going "Yep I know what that is". Then I tried to start the programs separately. Well Innerspace and also ISBoxer wouldn't even run. That's when I noticed my desktop icon for Redguides Launcher was missing too. Man it was just getting worse by the minute. Then I tried EQ standalone and it just said "file missing". Started pulling my hair out at that point. So after calming down again, I started to do some research. So if you start EQ normally it goes through a file verification process that you never see. Click on the "Advance Tools" button at the bottom of the Launcher window and it shows you the "Updated File List". Well mine showed where it was trying to write "eqgame.exe" but was erroring out because it couldn't communicate with the server. So more reading and I found where i could DL a new eqgame.exe file and copied it over. Tried it again and it made it to the Launcher and clicked "Play" and....shit, another error, talking about how EQ can't complete a connection.
Ok so let's put that aside for a moment, I started working on MQ. Well luckily some people here have run into problems like this before. SO I took their advice and did a install over the old files. Bingo, Redguides launcher brings up a window talking about "Repair current installation?" Oh you betcha, thanks guys for your foresight (credits to the developers). Wham fixed MQ, phew.
Try to run Innerspace and get an error about "can't get authorization" from the Lavishsoft server. "WHAT"? So more reading. Basically re install. Ok I can do that. Re install software and wham Innerspace runs again...ISBoxer? Yep it runs again...good, good...oh shit where is all my characters and my windows setup and my group setup...more missing hair AND another smoke. For those you who ask "What the hell is Innerspace and ISBoxer"? They are Multiboxing software from a company called Lavishsoft. Run by a guy who basically started this multiboxing idea, 20 some years ago. Anyways, ISBoxer can be rather daunting to setup. A ton of detail to be inputted and a rather elaborate setup for key bindings and such. Anyways I don't use it for the real tricky things it can do, but it's window management for displaying ALL your characters at once is unsurpassed. I use 2 monitors, one has my primary (whole screen for EQ) and the other shows 5 separate windows with the other 5 characters on it. With ISBoxer you can seamlessly switch which character is on the Primary with key bindings. It does some other pretty cool things that I won't get into it here. But it takes a lot of time to set everything up on it. A lot of time. All my shit was gone and now I have to start over. So I just redo one character to see if things will run again. Yep it works. Cool
And now for the finale guys. Still awake? Here is the reason why I am probably going to cancel my BitDefender account. So I come back to EQ and the comm errors. WTH is up with that? You programmer guys are probably laughing your ass off at me by now. After more reading and thinking about it I come up with the hare brained idea that "hey it sounds like it is being blocked"...now whatever could be doing the blocking? Duh could it be my FIREWALL? Sheesh talk about feeling like a dumbass. Anyways I had made some exeptions for EQ and MQ during my troubleshooting and I deleted those. No help. Turned off BitDefender. Anybody else have BitDefender? You would think that protection software that costs $89 a year would have a "Disable Bitdefender" button, right? Nope you have to go through each damn separate function that it has and disable them one at a time. OMG what a pain in the ass. Anyways disable, re start PC and now for the big test. Yes, EQ runs all the way through login and char selection. Yehaa.
I wrote this to vent to people who I think will understand and commiserate with me, and to give a heads up to the MQ developers. I think BitDefender is getting overly paranoid. I hope this will help someone else who may run across the same problem. The fact that fdlWCQt3.exe caused Bitdefender to trigger like that is absurd. It is used in countless other programs from what I read. My EQ setup ran just fine before last Friday so why now?
So I am looking for some new Anti virus/threat software. Any suggestions from you guys would be greatly appreciated. Kinda leaning towards Norton 360.
Vrak
Anyways, make yourself comfortable gents as this will take a few minutes. Go get a beer or whatever.
So on Thursday night I receive a DB push from BitDefender and a notification to Restart my PC for it to take effect. OK np at all. So the next day I go to start my newly minted 6 man group from ISBoxer and that's when things go all sideways on me. BitDefender goes all apeshit on me and everything grinds to a halt. It said it had found a threat and was quarantining it. I am like WTH? so I start digging into it and found it had :
Quarantined a file named fdlWCQt3.exe in my MQ2 folder for being a "spawned process" and
Blocked testrunner.exe, k2g3q23v.exe, MacroQuest.exe, crashpad_handeler.exe from my MQ2 folder and
eqgame.exe from my EQ folder and
conhost.exe from my \windows\system32 folder AND
subsequently DELETED eqgame.exe
Man was I pissed. All I could say was "WHAT!" "WHY!" and a bunch of swear words that I can't write here, well I could but you don't need to hear them.
So I finally calmed down after the wife came in and gave me that "look", you know what I mean. Went out to the back porch and had a smoke, came back and started trouble shooting.
Started with fdlWCQt3.exe, what the hell is that? Well I found references to it from, oh I don't know, 50 other programs that use it. I am sure you programmer types are going "Yep I know what that is". Then I tried to start the programs separately. Well Innerspace and also ISBoxer wouldn't even run. That's when I noticed my desktop icon for Redguides Launcher was missing too. Man it was just getting worse by the minute. Then I tried EQ standalone and it just said "file missing". Started pulling my hair out at that point. So after calming down again, I started to do some research. So if you start EQ normally it goes through a file verification process that you never see. Click on the "Advance Tools" button at the bottom of the Launcher window and it shows you the "Updated File List". Well mine showed where it was trying to write "eqgame.exe" but was erroring out because it couldn't communicate with the server. So more reading and I found where i could DL a new eqgame.exe file and copied it over. Tried it again and it made it to the Launcher and clicked "Play" and....shit, another error, talking about how EQ can't complete a connection.
Ok so let's put that aside for a moment, I started working on MQ. Well luckily some people here have run into problems like this before. SO I took their advice and did a install over the old files. Bingo, Redguides launcher brings up a window talking about "Repair current installation?" Oh you betcha, thanks guys for your foresight (credits to the developers). Wham fixed MQ, phew.
Try to run Innerspace and get an error about "can't get authorization" from the Lavishsoft server. "WHAT"? So more reading. Basically re install. Ok I can do that. Re install software and wham Innerspace runs again...ISBoxer? Yep it runs again...good, good...oh shit where is all my characters and my windows setup and my group setup...more missing hair AND another smoke. For those you who ask "What the hell is Innerspace and ISBoxer"? They are Multiboxing software from a company called Lavishsoft. Run by a guy who basically started this multiboxing idea, 20 some years ago. Anyways, ISBoxer can be rather daunting to setup. A ton of detail to be inputted and a rather elaborate setup for key bindings and such. Anyways I don't use it for the real tricky things it can do, but it's window management for displaying ALL your characters at once is unsurpassed. I use 2 monitors, one has my primary (whole screen for EQ) and the other shows 5 separate windows with the other 5 characters on it. With ISBoxer you can seamlessly switch which character is on the Primary with key bindings. It does some other pretty cool things that I won't get into it here. But it takes a lot of time to set everything up on it. A lot of time. All my shit was gone and now I have to start over. So I just redo one character to see if things will run again. Yep it works. Cool
And now for the finale guys. Still awake? Here is the reason why I am probably going to cancel my BitDefender account. So I come back to EQ and the comm errors. WTH is up with that? You programmer guys are probably laughing your ass off at me by now. After more reading and thinking about it I come up with the hare brained idea that "hey it sounds like it is being blocked"...now whatever could be doing the blocking? Duh could it be my FIREWALL? Sheesh talk about feeling like a dumbass. Anyways I had made some exeptions for EQ and MQ during my troubleshooting and I deleted those. No help. Turned off BitDefender. Anybody else have BitDefender? You would think that protection software that costs $89 a year would have a "Disable Bitdefender" button, right? Nope you have to go through each damn separate function that it has and disable them one at a time. OMG what a pain in the ass. Anyways disable, re start PC and now for the big test. Yes, EQ runs all the way through login and char selection. Yehaa.
I wrote this to vent to people who I think will understand and commiserate with me, and to give a heads up to the MQ developers. I think BitDefender is getting overly paranoid. I hope this will help someone else who may run across the same problem. The fact that fdlWCQt3.exe caused Bitdefender to trigger like that is absurd. It is used in countless other programs from what I read. My EQ setup ran just fine before last Friday so why now?
So I am looking for some new Anti virus/threat software. Any suggestions from you guys would be greatly appreciated. Kinda leaning towards Norton 360.
Vrak