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imo agi isn't even worth factoring into the equasion, and for the most part the raw 335hps aren't worth thinking about either.
the important thing here is "is 8 hdex worth 25 AC to me" only you can answer that, I'm curious what your other aug choices are, however
for me, my forzen liz scale is in the bank, so is the velium infused gem of adroit, which makes me kinda sad about it, but it is what it is heh
This only matters if you're a Paladin...because you'll need all the help any stat can give ya...lol!So, for a Tank, in a situation like this where you could get 15AC raw but lose out on the extra 300hp and +24HAGI which would make the better choice? Still the raw AC?
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yes, some people don't and that's fine, but yes, if you're asking me what i think, yes absolutely hdex for anything that is swinging, smashing, poking, prodding, slicing, dicing, etcNow that IS interesting. So are you saying the HDEX is more important for the tank than the HAGI, all other things being equal?
I have focused primarily on raw AC augs for my tank with HAGI as the secondary consideration. All of his type 5s are HAGI too. Should I reconsider that strategy?
yes, some people don't and that's fine, but yes, if you're asking me what i think, yes absolutely hdex for anything that is swinging, smashing, poking, prodding, slicing, dicing, etc
emphatically yes.So your type 5 augs on your tank are also HDEX not HAGI?
I love HDEX on a SK.. war, HSTA.. if your a REAL AC stacker, can go with HSTR (HSTR/10 is added to shield AC).So your type 5 augs on your tank are also HDEX not HAGI?
So your type 5 augs on your tank are also HDEX not HAGI?
emphatically yes.
just so there is no confusion because it sounds like confusion
Heroic Dexterity
the 1070 is my shm, which is hSta
this is my team, Ber, Bst, Ber, Shd, Shm, Brd
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Me: hdex
jetan: not agi?
me: definitely hdex
jetan: so... not hagi? hdex?
me: yes. all the hdex
fortunately many of the best AC augs are also hdex augs
Here is what my main group's SK looks like:
(this is the toon in the vids)
Type 5s:
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Type 7s
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emphatically yes.
just so there is no confusion because it sounds like confusion
Heroic Dexterity
the 1070 is my shm, which is hSta
this is my team, Ber, Bst, Ber, Shd, Shm, Brd
View attachment 36374
Me: hdex
jetan: not agi?
me: definitely hdex
jetan: so... not hagi? hdex?
me: yes. all the hdex
fortunately many of the best AC augs are also hdex augs
Here is what my main group's SK looks like:
(this is the toon in the vids)
Type 5s:
View attachment 36375
Type 7s
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For a tank, the "of security" variety is what most of your augs "should" be. The lizard scale follows the "of security" template vs "of adroitness." However, that adroitness aug is a higher tier than the lizard scale. I personally try to go for current era augs over past expansions, or lower tiers. So, I'm going to assume that these your worst augs and due for replacement and say that I'd go with the adroitness because it's higher a tier of the same expansion than the lizard scale.So, for a Tank, in a situation like this where you could get 15AC raw but lose out on the extra 300hp and +24HAGI which would make the better choice? Still the raw AC?
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That is because you filtered by ac which is artificially inflating their AC. Majority of raid warriors are going hdex or hsta. On raids heroic strike through is high and thus you don’t get the defensive benefits as much, you do get dps benefits. Those going hsta are stacking for shielding/larger hp pools. Personal flavor choice but I go with hdex builds on all my tanks and yes they raid as the difference in survivability between isn’t massive but I do push out more dps. More dps across the less combat rounds I take while tanking, the less chance of bad round taking me outYou didn't specifically mention the type 5s which is why I asked.
<edit> Thanks for that vid. I think you are correct with regard to a lack of definitive data or parses for "proof" which is probably where these discussions come from in the first place.
I am always interested to know what other people are doing and open to try something new.
Also, for raiding tanks, it is interesting to note that the top two raiding warriors seem to both go with HAGI
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They are the top 2 for AC/HP on magelo but Township Rebellion is by no means the top of the food chain for raiding guilds. Gochan has been around a very long time though so who knows.You didn't specifically mention the type 5s which is why I asked.
<edit> Thanks for that vid. I think you are correct with regard to a lack of definitive data or parses for "proof" which is probably where these discussions come from in the first place.
I am always interested to know what other people are doing and open to try something new.
Also, for raiding tanks, it is interesting to note that the top two raiding warriors seem to both go with HAGI
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They are the top 2 for AC/HP on magelo but Township Rebellion is by no means the top of the food chain for raiding guilds. Gochan has been around a very long time though so who knows.