Problem - puller is lazy

[da Man]

no matter what I set as puller (war or ranger) it preforms great for 5 to 7 pulls. then he sits on his butt doing nothing. my other group does well no sitting. any ideas?

 

[Sic]

What does your pull section look like in your Kissassist file for your puller?

would look something like this

[Pull]
PullTwistOn=1
PullWith=Sonic Disturbance
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=600
MaxZRange=300
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=3
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=40
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=100|114
PullArcWidth=0
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0

Also what do you have in your general area - specifically in the GroupWatchOn

[General]
GroupWatchOn=0

 

[da Man]

pretty much the same as yours different values on the radius and z range but I don't want my puller running all over the place

 

[Sic]

pretty much the same as yours different values on the radius and z range but I don't want my puller running all over the place

specifically I was hoping you would post so we could check your pull pause and if your dude is watching your group's mana which would make them chill a while

 

[da Man]

group watch is off
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=40
MaxZRange=20
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=3
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0

 

[da Man]

he is targeting the mob for half a sec when it says hunting mobs, just a flash then nothing

 

[Sic]

he is targeting the mob for half a sec when it says hunting mobs, just a flash then nothing

are you using mq2nav? is it current? do you have valid mesh? do a /nav reload

 

[da Man]

ok reloaded nav, yes im using it and yes the mesh is today. it pulled 3 mobs fine now sitting (reloaded kiss too)

 

[eqtrader74]

This is really small radius:

MaxRadius=40

40 is about the size of camp. Have you tried a bigger number here? Something like 200 to 800? If you check your puller's map after you start KA, the pull radius will be drawn as a blue circle. Are there enough mobs in it? zradius of 20 is also a little small, but could be correct if your zone is very flat, like a inside dungeon or such.

If you're still having issues after changing the radius, what error message are you getting? "Looking for mobs?" Since you're saying multiple toons are having issues, you can check your MobsToPull and MobsToIgnore lists in your KissAssist_Info.ini file in the Release folder. Might have restrictions that are slowing pulls.

 

[Sic]

oh snap, I didn't see you responded with your code hence me saying "... if you posted your ini"
eqtrader is correct, 40 radius is very small. I often do like 600 or 800 or 1000 and over 100 z radius for outside zone

^ This is probably what your issue is.

Other things I think of, since groupwatch is off, is it possible your puller is running out of mana - like a bard using vainglorious a little too much?

 

[da Man]

trader, im pulling 1 mob im on top of it. im well below the z range and I don't want to pull anything else

 

[da Man]

[General]
KissAssistVer=11.001
Role=Assist
CampRadius=200
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1/96
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
CastingInterruptOn=0
EQBCOn=1
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Warrior|105|SILVER
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
XTSlot=1
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KissAssist
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=19
Buffs1=Breather|End|15
Buffs2=Champion's Aura|Aura
Buffs3=Commanding Voice|Me
Buffs4=Field Champion|Me
Buffs5=Brace for Impact|Me
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=Huntsman's Ethereal Quiver|Summon|Ethereal Arrow|200
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=1
AESize=8
AERadius=50
AE1=Wade Into Battle|Cond2
AE2=Rage of the Forsaken|Cond2
AE3=Area Taunt|Cond2
AE4=Projection of Fury|Cond1
AE5=Warlord's Tenacity|Cond4
AE6=Warlord's Fury|Cond2
AE7=Roar of Challenge|cond1
AE8=Concordant Expanse|cond1
[DPS]
DPSOn=2
DPSSize=28
DPSSkip=1
DPSInterval=1
DPS1=command:/stopdisc|99|Cond5
DPS2=Culminating Stand Discipline|99|Cond6
DPS3=Resolute Defense|99|Cond7
DPS4=Phantom Aggressor|100
DPS5=Taunt|100|Mash|Cond11
DPS6=Slander|99
DPS7=Shield Sunder|99
DPS8=Tormenting Shout|99
DPS9=Flash of Anger|95|Cond20
DPS10=Dissident Shield|100|Cond13
DPS11=Pain Doesn't Hurt|100|Cond13
DPS12=Fundament: Third Spire of the Warlord|100|Cond13
DPS13=Adamant Triumphant Cloud Legionnaire Breastplate|100|Cond13
DPS14=Warrior's Bastion|100|Cond13
DPS15=Battle Leap|98|Cond8
DPS16=Rage of Rallos Zek|93
DPS17=Throat Jab|85|Mash
DPS18=Projection of Fury|87
DPS19=Imperator's Command|90
DPS20=Burning Shout|90
DPS21=Knuckle Break|90|Mash
DPS22=Blast of Anger|90
DPS23=Gut Punch|90|Mash
DPS24=Knee Strike|90|Mash
DPS25=Call of Challenge|95|Cond9
DPS26=Calculated Strike|95|Cond10
DPS27=Concordant Expanse|95
DPS28=command:/bandolier activate 2HSlash|100|Cond22
DebuffAllOn=0
[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=Blase of Anger|100|<
Aggro2=Kluzen's Roar|100|<
Aggro3=Grappling Strike|100|<
Aggro4=Rage of the Forsaken|100|<
Aggro5=Warlord's Grasp|100|<
Aggro6=Ageless Enmity|100|<
[Heals]
HealsOn=1
HealsSize=9
Heals1=Warlord's Resurgence|60|Cond2
Heals2=Warlord's Bravery|50
Heals3=Mark of the Mage Hunter|50
Heals4=command:/bandolier activate shield|40|Cond21
Heals5=Warlord's Tenacity|40
Heals6=Resplendent Glory|38
Heals7=Brace for Impact|20
Heals8=command:/stopdisc|19|Cond15
Heals9=Furious Discipline|19|Cond14
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
XTarHeal=0
XTarHeal2=0
XTarHealList=NULL
HealGroupPetsOn=0
[Burn]
BurnSize=15
BurnAllNamed=1
Burn1=command:/stopdisc|100|Cond5
Burn2=Culminating Stand Discipline|100|Cond6
Burn3=command:/bandolier activate shield|100|Cond21
Burn4=command:/alt activate 5103|99|Cond18
Burn5=Flash of Anger|Cond12
Burn6=Hold the Line
Burn7=Projection of Fury
Burn8=Warrior's Bastion
Burn9=Unflinching Attention
Burn10=Warlord's Bravery
Burn11=Warlord's Tenacity
Burn12=Warlord's Fury
Burn13=Resplendent Glory
Burn14=Wars Sheol's Heroic Blade
Burn15=Blade Guardian
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
UseTribute=0
[KConditions]
ConOn=1
CondSize=19
Cond1=${Me.XTAggroCount} > 0
Cond2=${Me.XTAggroCount} > 3
Cond3=${Me.XTAggroCount} > 4
Cond4=${Me.XTAggroCount} > 8
Cond5=${Me.ActiveDisc.ID} && ${Target.Named} && ${Me.ActiveDisc.Name.NotEqual[Culminating Stand Discipline]} && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[${Spell[Culminating Stand Discipline].RankName}]}
Cond6=!${Me.ActiveDisc.ID} && ${Target.Named} && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[${Spell[Culminating Stand Discipline].RankName}]}
Cond7=!${Me.ActiveDisc.ID}
Cond8=!${Me.Song[Battle Leap].ID}
Cond9=${Target.PctHPs} < 21
Cond10=${Target.PctHPs} < 16
Cond11=${Target.Distance}0 && ${Target.PctAggro}<=99 || ${Me.Buff[Biting Tongue Discipline].ID}
Cond12=${Target.Distance}5 && !(${Me.Buff[Two-Handed Proficiency].ID})
Cond13=!${Me.Buff[Dissident Shielding].ID} && !${Me.Song[Pain Doesn't Hurt Effect].ID} && !${Me.Buff[Third Spire of the Warlord].ID} && !${Me.Buff[Roaring Shield].ID} && !${Me.Buff[Warrior's Bastion].ID}
Cond14=${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Furious Discipline]}
Cond15=${Me.ActiveDisc.ID} && ${Me.ActiveDisc.Name.NotEqual[Furious Discipline]} && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Furious Discipline]}
Cond16=${Me.AAPoints}>218 && ${Me.AltAbilityReady[Glyph of Fireworks II]}
Cond17=!${Me.AltAbilityReady[Glyph of Fireworks II]} && ${AltAbility[Glyph of Fireworks II].CanTrain}
Cond18=${Target.Named} && ${Target.Level}>105 && ${Me.AltAbilityReady[Glyph of Dragon Scales (100+)]}
Cond19=!${Me.AltAbilityReady[Glyph of Dragon Scales (100+)]} && ${AltAbility[Glyph of Dragon Scales (100+)].CanTrain} && ${Me.AAPoints}>39
Cond20=${Target.Named} && {Target.Distance}5&&!(${Me.Buff[Two-Handed Proficiency].ID})
Cond21=${Me.Buff[Two-Handed Proficiency].ID}
Cond22=${Me.XTAggroCount} < 3 && !${Target.Named}
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=40
MaxZRange=20
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=3
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92





I copied this ini from here have no idea on the conditions I modded the ini to what I have

 

[eqtrader74]

So you're pulling the same mob, which is basicly in the camp, 5-7 times when it respawns, then the puller takes a break? Sounds like PullPause.

PullPause=30|2

This will have the puller pause for 2 minutes every 30 minutes to get rebuffs. It will give a message like "Pausing pulls" and then say like "Puller is a 100% endurance, pausing pulls" for the 2 minutes, then restart.

You can set it to 0|0 since your probably getting rebuffed while waiting for the mob to pop.

 

[da Man]

no, its a total of maybe 30 to 40 seconds, fast spawns. it doesn't run for 30 min and the only toons I have a problem with are in this group, no others do it. I have another group same pc running fine with these settings

 

[eqtrader74]

What messages are you getting in the puller's MQ2 window when it stops running?

 

[da Man]

looking for mobs that's when it targets the mob for a half second and just sits down

 

[ChatWithThisName]

AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0

Perhaps it's the afk tools?

 

[da Man]

hum, ill try those


still no luck

 

[ChatWithThisName]

Ahh I think I see the issue and I happened to run into it today on my zerker. PullWith=Melee, there's a disconnect there somewhere with the Melee pulling and actually engaging the target where it's losing it's target and stop reacting. Change the pull method to do a spell or ability may sort it out.

 

[da Man]

ok, I think its worked out, thanks chat, makes no sense to me tho, I have a rogue pulling with melee in my other group

 

[Many_Whelps]

Warrior pulling with bow is better than melee anyways. Even if that's not the specific issue, I bet it will make the whole experience smoother

 

[da Man]

in 1 aspect it does, I had to rearrange the whole camp around the new area afterward

 

[ctaylor22]

CampRadius=200

Just a side note. You may want to make your CampRadius smaller. That's a little big for CampRadius. Try something 35.

 

[LorDeth]

Warrior pulling with bow is better than melee anyways. Even if that's not the specific issue, I bet it will make the whole experience smoother

I think in his case though, he's sitting on top of the mob, and that can make bow pulling fail, due to 'too close for range attack' .. I've had times when i've set up a tiny camp specific to a certain mob..

@da Man best case for pulling in this instance would be an aggro disc.. especially if melee pulling is being intermittent..

 

[da Man]

yes the camp radius is a bit big but I have the melee dps at return to camp and the casters off to the side, kinda works out if I have to use the bow @ctaylor22

 

[da Man]

well spoke to soon puller is back to being lazy again even with the bow. lasted a whole 45 minutes today then spams waiting 3 sec for mobs to spawn, and looking for mobs.