Request - Pet pull...send pet from a distance

[Almafa]

I have been using pet pull for a few days and watching how it works. It seems to me it does the same thing as pulling with a spell. The puller gets to LOS and instead of casting a spell, sends the pet. It works really well when the target is a bit far out, however when the puller runs into a crowded room it usually turns out badly.

Since pets don't need to be in LOS (to the best of my knowledge), would it be possible to alter pet pull so he puller would target the mob and send the pet from a distance the pet is willing to attack from? I am sure there is a cap on how far the target can be...I can't send a pet accross the zone for a pull...

It would keep the puller safer for sure...

It isn't really a request, but a humble question whether it could be done and if someone sees it interesting enough to spend time on it.

 

[ctaylor22]

It could be done but would require changes in a few routines, where it checks if the mob is NOT in LOS. Pet pulling is the only pullwith option that doesn't require LOS. Would have to match up every !LOS with PullWith.NotEqual[pet] that way pet pulling will overlook the mob not being LOS and only check the PullRange when pulling with a pet.

 

[Katiekaboom]

The pet will ignore pull commands unless the mob is within it's radius of pulling (200ft)

 

[Almafa]

The pet will ignore pull commands unless the mob is within it's radius of pulling (200ft)

Hello Katie,

It would be great even if I could send the pet from 50 or 100 ft - more like if Kiss would send the pet from a safe distance. When the target is around a curb or in a room, puller runs in and gets to melee range then sends pet...so sending pet from not being in LOS would be a huge improvement...

A.

 

[Samagram]

Would love to see this implemented. It works amazingly well pet-pulling targets in nearby rooms manually. If it could be done through some 'petpull' commandline switch it would be (drool) good. At this point it's kind of silly running within booping distance of a mob and then sending the pet in.

 

[Samagram]

Would love to see this implemented. It works amazingly well pet-pulling targets in nearby rooms manually. If it could be done through some 'petpull' commandline switch it would be (drool) good. At this point it's kind of silly running within booping distance of a mob and then sending the pet in.

Also, I should note that I use a custom Pet Back hotkey that's super slick (simple but effective).

/pause 5, /pet back
/alt act 1215

Alt Act 1215 is for Summon Companion. Pops the pet right back to our camp and the mobs come running to us.
Summon Companion might be a different alt code for other classes but that's what it is for me.

 

[Almafa]

Also, I should note that I use a custom Pet Back hotkey that's super slick (simple but effective).

/pause 5, /pet back
/alt act 1215

Alt Act 1215 is for Summon Companion. Pops the pet right back to our camp and the mobs come running to us.
Summon Companion might be a different alt code for other classes but that's what it is for me.

oh, great idea!
Lately I use autopull, so it would be great if it could be integrated into Kiss / Autopull macro. Of course if there are people needing/ interested in this.

With some TOV mobs casting snare and root...it sure comes handy to pull with pet

By the way, back in the days I would just cast my lvl 1 SK pet spell, send it in and leave a pet to die...then the mob would come to me...but I would be ready and waiting in camp . If the pet survives the entire process is so much nicer!

 

[eqtrader74]

At what range can a non-MQ2 toon target a mob they can't see? I know I used to be able to type "/target an_undead_warrior" and get targets through walls, but is there a radius cap on that?

We'd want to keep the macro out of the "hacks" area. KA is currently coded to try not to target mobs that a player wouldn't be able to target, despite MQ2 being able to target any mob in zone. I think KA may bend that rule in a couple situations, but I haven't watched closely for awhile.

 

[Samagram]

No idea about the max targeting range without MQ2 running. The only time I'm ever on without it is on patch day, and only to kill some time doing banking and similar tedious stuff I won't do on a regular day.

...and I agree. This should probably be kept within legal bounds of what's possible without MQ2.

 

[surfdog21]

Sooooo..... you want to know the ancient chinese secret of pulling with pet eh?\

This is what I do on my enchanter. (I always use my chanter pet to pull as it is pretty sturdy unlike SK pets.) Also, chanter pet will do bad things and run through zone walls and pull through walls...shhh...

1st, you must set up hotkey with /pet attack on your key board.
2nd, you must set up hotkey with /pet return on your key board.
Then open up your map.
All npcs will show on the map, just click on whichever one you want to pull, it will be in your target window and hit your pet attack button.
Once pet aggros mob it will show up in your group window as target and hit pet return.
Rinse and repeat.

I know it isnt automated but...its a great way to get that namer that just popped while the mt and group are still working on the mob in camp.

 

[Samagram]

Sooooo..... you want to know the ancient chinese secret of pulling with pet eh?\

This is what I do on my enchanter. (I always use my chanter pet to pull as it is pretty sturdy unlike SK pets.) Also, chanter pet will do bad things and run through zone walls and pull through walls...shhh...

1st, you must set up hotkey with /pet attack on your key board.
2nd, you must set up hotkey with /pet return on your key board.
Then open up your map.
All npcs will show on the map, just click on whichever one you want to pull, it will be in your target window and hit your pet attack button.
Once pet aggros mob it will show up in your group window as target and hit pet return.
Rinse and repeat.

I know it isnt automated but...its a great way to get that namer that just popped while the mt and group are still working on the mob in camp.

Thanks. ...and yah, I really like how pet pulling works on my enchanter too. We're hoping that we could replicate that, to some degree, automatically.

Currently running to within 15 ft. of the mob and then sending the pet in is kind of impractical. It works, but it's only about 25% as good as it could be. It's great for taking a harm-touch, or maybe having the pet get rooted instead of the player.

It would be much nicer though if auto-pet-pulling could work more like it does manually. What we need to find out now is how far you can target a mob without MQ2.

 

[Almafa]

At what range can a non-MQ2 toon target a mob they can't see? I know I used to be able to type "/target an_undead_warrior" and get targets through walls, but is there a radius cap on that?

We'd want to keep the macro out of the "hacks" area. KA is currently coded to try not to target mobs that a player wouldn't be able to target, despite MQ2 being able to target any mob in zone. I think KA may bend that rule in a couple situations, but I haven't watched closely for awhile.

so true...it put things in prospective. I didn't even think of this.

 

[Samagram]

Also, I think there's a built in limitation on pet pull distance. There's some range where I can target the mob but my pet will not run to engage them if they're too far away. That might be our hard limit, whatever distance that is.

 

[Samagram]

Ok, I just did a little test. I cannot send my pet in to attack a mob farther than about 350 feet away.

346'ish, I could send pet in, 384'ish the pet wouldn't go anywhere after I issued /pet attack command, it just stood there.

 

[Grimm68]

SK pet i can send it in at 198, occasionally will go at 201. but thats pretty rare

 

[ctaylor22]

I think Pet Attack Range in kiss is set at 180. That's plenty far enough..

 

[Samagram]

I think Pet Attack Range in kiss is set at 180. That's plenty far enough..

We're talking more about how pet pulling might be made more natural, so that you don't run to within 15 feet of the mob before sending the pet in, which is how it works now.

 

[ctaylor22]

We're talking more about how pet pulling might be made more natural, so that you don't run to within 15 feet of the mob before sending the pet in, which is how it works now.

I was making a statement to the distance KA uses for sending in the pet when pet pulling. I don't consider pet pulling natural, but I understand what you are asking for and it's not a bad idea. If it is not to hard to implement I may add it to kissassist 12, but no promises.

 

[Wolfy]

Would love an automated way of doing this, just to farm rare trade items with my pet in lower zones, had the old rinse and repeat method of target, pet attack, pet return.....takes forever.