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Problem - Not sticking to mob (1 Viewer)

Kramernaut

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Version of KissAssist.mac?
12.002
When did your problem start?
Last week, but just started using it again after a few months of not
Character Role?
  1. Assist
  2. Hunter
What class is having this issue?
  1. Rogue
How often does this issue occur?
Often
Can you reproduce the issue?
It happens often, but no pattern to when that I have figured out
Having a problem where I occasionally won't stick to the mob.
Happens both in assist mode, and hunter mode.
When in hunter mode, he will use nav to get to the target, but then if the mob flees he won't follow. Or if adds come in, he will switch to them, and turn melee on, but if not in melee distance will just stand there looking at the out of range mob.
When in assist mode will target and turn attack on, but not go to the mob.
Neither happen every time, probably once in 10 mobs or so.

I have messed with a bunch of ini settings. Even tried turning mq2melee back on for awhile, but when i did that ran into a different problem where he would force attack off occasionally. Like even if i manually turned it on, something would turn it back off. (just mentioned incase it's a clue, i'd rather not use mq2melee)
Here is what it is at the moment.
I had the same issue on another toon as well using KA.

INI:
[General]
KissAssistVer=12.002
Role=Assist
CampRadius=100
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=5
MedOn=0
MedStart=90
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
EQBCOn=0
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Rogue|85|GOLD
DPSMeter=0
ScatterOn=0
XTSlot=0
MedStop=100
CorpseRecoveryOn=0
DefaultUI=TRUE
LOSBeforeCombat=0
UseSpawnMaster=0
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=5
Buffs1=Bite of the Shissar XV|Dual|Bite of the Shissar Poison VIII
;Buffs2=Ice Woven Shadowscale Leggings|Summon|Consigned Bite of the Shissar XX|20
Buffs3=Direwolf Totem of Battle|Dual|Stoic Wolf Familiar|Me
Buffs4=Lizardscale Plated Girdle|Dual|Twitching Speed
;Buffs5=Dragorn War Mask|Dual|Illusion Benefit Dragorn War Mask
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
Buffs2=NULL
Buffs5=NULL

[Melee]
AssistAt=100
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=100
StickHow=snaproll
UseMQ2Melee=0
TargetSwitchingOn=1
AutoHide=0
AutoFireOn=0
PetTauntOverride=0

[DPS]
DPSOn=2
DPSSize=25
DPSSkip=2
DPSInterval=2
;DPS1=Blitzstrike|99|mash
;DPS2=Vindictive Puncture|99|mash
;DPS3=Shadow-Hunter's Dagger|99|mash
;DPS5=Cloaked Blade|99|mash
;DPS6=Intimidation|99|mash
;DPS7=Twisted Shank|99|
DebuffAllOn=0
DPS1=NULL
DPS2=NULL
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DPS16=NULL
DPS17=NULL
DPS18=NULL
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
DPS21=NULL
DPS22=NULL
DPS23=NULL
DPS24=NULL
DPS25=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=3
Aggro1=Bold Escape|100|>|Mob
Aggro2=Sleight of Hand|50|>|Mob
Aggro3=Indiscernible Discipline|60|>|Mob
[Burn]
BurnSize=15
BurnAllNamed=1
Burn1=Frenzied Stabbing Discipline|99|
Burn2=Rogue's Fury|98|
Burn3=Twisted Chance Discipline|98|
;Burn4=Dichotomic Weapons|99|
;Burn5=Shadow's Flanking|98|
Burn6=Spire of the Rake|99|
;Burn7=Focused Rake's Rampage|99
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
UseTribute=0
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn7=NULL
[KConditions]
ConOn=1
CondSize=6
Cond1=${Me.ActiveDisc.Name.Equal[Frenzied Stabbing Discipline]}
;Cond2=${Me.ActiveDisc.Name.Equal[Knifeplay Discipline]}
;Cond3=${Me.ActiveDisc.Name.Equal[Ragged Edge Discipline Rk. II]}
;Cond4=${Me.ActiveDisc.Name.Equal[Knifeplay Discipline]} && !${Me.Buff[Composite Weapon Effect 3].ID}
Cond5=${Me.Song[Rogue's Fury XXVI].ID}
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond6=TRUE
;Cond6=!${Me.Song[Thief's Vision Rk. II].ID}
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
AutoRezOn=0
RezMeLast=0
HealInterval=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Pull]
;PullWith=Guardian Blade|Guardian Blade
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=1
MaxRadius=1000
MaxZRange=200
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=70|85
PullArcWidth=0
PullOnReturn=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[KissError]
LastCMD:=/endmacro
ErrorDateTime:=07/09/2023 10:44:35
ErrorMsg:=Cannot end a macro when one isn't running.
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=3706473
BuildDate:=20230706
CurrentUI:=default
[PullAdvanced]
PullLocsOn=0
 
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Hiya Kramernaut,

Well, you can start with adjusting the stickhow in your melee section and the KA page shows ou the options (see below); Snaproll only is not a thing


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However, that ini needs quite a bit of work and the incorrect entries could also be causing your problems.

[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=5
Buffs1=Bite of the Shissar XV|Dual|Bite of the Shissar Poison VIII
;Buffs2=Ice Woven Shadowscale Leggings|Summon|Consigned Bite of the Shissar XX|20
Buffs3=Direwolf Totem of Battle|Dual|Stoic Wolf Familiar|Me
Buffs4=Lizardscale Plated Girdle|Dual|Twitching Speed
;Buffs5=Dragorn War Mask|Dual|Illusion Benefit Dragorn War Mask
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
Buffs2=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
You have buff entries below and above other options. Buffsize should equal your entries and should be in chronological order. For example;

[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=3
Buffs1=Bite of the Shissar XV|Dual|Bite of the Shissar Poison VIII
Buffs2=Direwolf Totem of Battle|Dual|Stoic Wolf Familiar|Me
Buffs3=Lizardscale Plated Girdle|Dual|Twitching Speed
;BuffsXX=Ice Woven Shadowscale Leggings|Summon|Consigned Bite of the Shissar XX|20
;BuffsXX=Dragorn War Mask|Dual|Illusion Benefit Dragorn War Mas
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL

You can comment out the ones you don't want, but hey should appear more like this if you want to keep them.

You should also reorganize the DPS, Burns, and Kconditions as indicated in the info above or even better. Rename this toons ini with "OLD" and the end and then log the toon in and make a new one with /mac kissassist. It will create a new blank one properly formatted and you can then add in the heals, dps, burns, etc that you desire. Almost always better to start with a clean slate in cases like this.
 
Thanks for the quick comments.
I have been playing with the ini a bunch, looks like i forgot to type rear after snaproll before posting sorry. I have tried several different settings here, with no change to the problem. Just how he sticks the times it works.

Yes, my ini tends to get messy when I am messing with things. I did try with a fresh ini as well, and had the same issue.
I assume at this point it's actually something i have set goofy outside of kiss, but really have no idea what that could be.
 
Thanks for the quick comments.
I have been playing with the ini a bunch, looks like i forgot to type rear after snaproll before posting sorry. I have tried several different settings here, with no change to the problem. Just how he sticks the times it works.

Yes, my ini tends to get messy when I am messing with things. I did try with a fresh ini as well, and had the same issue.
I assume at this point it's actually something i have set goofy outside of kiss, but really have no idea what that could be.
Def not meant as an insult. I mention the entries in the ini you posted because even the slightest thing being off in the ini can cause odd behavior in my experience.

I would start with a clean ini and then go from there to diagnose the stick issue
 
Def not meant as an insult. I mention the entries in the ini you posted because even the slightest thing being off in the ini can cause odd behavior in my experience.

I would start with a clean ini and then go from there to diagnose the stick issue
/nod, I didn't think you were being insulting, just helpful, makes sense. I am a crappy software guy, and tend to let these type of things get messy. Probably should have posted the more basic one I tried instead to not drive people crazy with my silliness.
Thanks for trying to help.
I did try with a super basic ini the other day, just had the default and buffs in, but still had the problem. Also, have the same problem on the only other toon I tried running KA on, with a fresh ini also.
 
Gotcha. Based on the randomness, it could also be a nav mesh issue or a height issue depending on the zone you are in and your settings. The fact that it's working sometimes and not others leads me to believe it's terrain/mesh issue.
 
Gotcha. Based on the randomness, it could also be a nav mesh issue or a height issue depending on the zone you are in and your settings. The fact that it's working sometimes and not others leads me to believe it's terrain/mesh issue.
That makes a lot of sense. I have mostly been playing in thalassius, with all kinds of goofy levels, and line of site problems in there.
I'll mess around in another zone this weekend and see if I have problems there as well.

The actual stick command works if i manually do it. Is there a KA line of site check or something before it will stick to a mob? There is a bunch of stuff on the floors in there, so even in the flat spots i could see there being some kind of LOS issue.
 
I would not expect it to be a LoS issue but more nav mesh related. Try a flat zone and see if that solves the issue.
 
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