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Plugin - MQ2Shaman (1 Viewer) 3.1.52471.11

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Sic said:
this would be a "common" change for all of the plugins.
we've talked about that I actually want to see if i can make the giant CWTN logo a "pause" button and the image changes when its paused - but that's a long term thing - we don't have any plans on making it one of the small checkboxes at this time, but its not out of the question
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I noticed upon logging in that this is now a thing.

I LOVE IT!!!! Thank you!
 
Great job, yet again!

I have some questions about useDot.
Might be a TLP thing, but my shm at 54 isn't casting either the disease/poison dot in any mode with useDot set to on.
Will nuke and debuff, just not use the dots.

Should it dot in all modes if useDot is enabled, or is that a hybrid/dps mode only?
 
ventrik said:
Great job, yet again!

I have some questions about useDot.
Might be a TLP thing, but my shm at 54 isn't casting either the disease/poison dot in any mode with useDot set to on.
Will nuke and debuff, just not use the dots.

Should it dot in all modes if useDot is enabled, or is that a hybrid/dps mode only?
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UseDots doesn't change your spell lineup so if you don't have any memorized either in the default or you are in byos, its not going to cast them.

the stance just changes your spell loadout - it doesn't change any fucntionality or priority

you should memorize plague at lvl 54
this will cast it on your ma's target if you are above your shmdotmanamin and if the mob still has a good chunk of health left (unless named, then it will still cast a much lower health).
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I did notice an issue with it not memorizing cripple at lvl 54, however. so I'll update that.
 
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Sic said:
UseDots doesn't change your spell lineup so if you don't have any memorized either in the default or you are in byos, its not going to cast them.

the stance just changes your spell loadout - it doesn't change any fucntionality or priority

you should memorize plague at lvl 54
this will cast it on your ma's target if you are above your shmdotmanamin and if the mob still has a good chunk of health left (unless named, then it will still cast a much lower health).
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I did notice an issue with it not memorizing cripple at lvl 54, however. so I'll update that.
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Ah, memming plague manually sorted it, many thanks!
 
Sic said:
are you in byos? it should memorize breathdot if you don't have a direDD (which you don't get until 73)
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Not using BYOS. If I clear out all of the spell gems, unload the plugin and then load the plugin.. it doesn't mem anything into gem 4 or 7.
If I manually mem plague into an empty gem, it uses it
 
the gem4 is what i mentioned with cripple

and oh - you're obviously using cannibalize spell, so that's in your gem3, where plague would go otherwise

i'll look at the gem 7 thing
 
lvl 70 shaman has a bit of wonkiness.

Currently, the plugin doesn't function unless I use BYOS. Otherwise It opens the spell book to mem Vindictive Spirit in gem 4, then deletes it and opens the book to mem Crippling Spasm in gem 4, rinse repeat forever.

UseSlowAoE 0 and UseSlow 1 still uses the AoE slow Vindictive Spirit. Even if I check off both slows it still wants to do the mem war.

I also have UseMalo 0 and UseMaloAoE 0. It still mems Malos in gem 8. Not sure if by design or just low level weirdness.

Thanks for the amazing work!
 
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brizors said:
lvl 70 shaman has a bit of wonkiness.

Currently, the plugin doesn't function unless I use BYOS. Otherwise It opens the spell book to mem Vindictive Spirit in gem 4, then deletes it and opens the book to mem Crippling Spasm in gem 4, rinse repeat forever.

UseSlowAoE 0 and UseSlow 1 still uses the AoE slow Vindictive Spirit. Even if I check off both slows it still wants to do the mem war.

I also have UseMalo 0 and UseMaloAoE 0. It still mems Malos in gem 8. Not sure if by design or just low level weirdness.

Thanks for the amazing work!
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the spell gem 4 thing is a bug which i will address

the slow thing - the slow spells aren't split to single and aoe - as indicated the UseSlowAoE is for the AoE slow AA and has nothing to do with other slows - because they don't really have their own individual lines - you get a jump from lvl 69 with Blanace of Discord, then 96 with Curse of Insects for true "single target". if for some reason you don't want to use the spells in the toolkit that shamans have, you'd likely want to byos (with the results you get as it would still want to use the spells it says it has) - or you just wouldn't want to have those spells (like delete them from your book). The slow spells they were given are particularly weird because many of them have different resists, and different durations, and different slow values - widely varying cast times etc.

I'll go through sometime and see if there's a better way i can organize those spells, but i did spend quite a bit of time going through them already and its really one of those things where dbg made some really shitty design choices "in the middle levels" - once you get turgur's virulent swarm at 80 we don't memorize slow spell anymore.
 
I'll probably just move the Drowse spells into the aoe slow toggle (so the toggle does spells and the AA), and end the "regular" single target slow at Balance of Discord (due to slow % and cast time)

this isn't a good solution either. as we don't want to "only cast drowse" when we would normally cast aoe slow.

gonna take some time to sort this out - in the mean time i'll take out the spreading ones from the regular slow line

btw - I'm assuming you're on test? as the chain mem thing should only be possible there atm
 
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Yes, permanent test player. Unfortunately Vindictive Spirit is one of those spells that can't be deleted. Balance of Discord should be the default slow spell from 69 on. In the meantime BYOS works just fine, and it's like you said once we hit 80 it doesn't matter at all. Thanks again!
 
SIC Thank you so much for this. You and your team whomever is involved wonderful product. I am using your shaman/eskay combo and its working beautifully. The Sk i had to upgrade from his heroic gear at 95/106/110 but the shaman currently level 109 is still in heroic gear from 85 healing like a complete boss in Frontier Mountains no problems or issues. I did buy all spells for the shaman just no armor upgrade. Will at 110. Thank you all for this amazing well developed product!
 
Shankyas12 said:
SIC Thank you so much for this. You and your team whomever is involved wonderful product. I am using your shaman/eskay combo and its working beautifully. The Sk i had to upgrade from his heroic gear at 95/106/110 but the shaman currently level 109 is still in heroic gear from 85 healing like a complete boss in Frontier Mountains no problems or issues. I did buy all spells for the shaman just no armor upgrade. Will at 110. Thank you all for this amazing well developed product!
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hell yeah! #GettinIt

Thanks for the nice works - CWTN and I put our everything into this, and we are continually trying to improve what and how we dom so thank you sincerely for the support and the kind words
 
I just purchased the MQ2shaman plugin to use on my new shaman lvl 2 shaman. I have it all loaded up but he does nothing in Gloomingdeep. Am I missing something here? I have all the spells it said I was missing and such, I have him set to Hybrid stance but he does nothing. Thank you for the help!
 
tigwelder76 said:
I just purchased the MQ2shaman plugin to use on my new shaman lvl 2 shaman. I have it all loaded up but he does nothing in Gloomingdeep. Am I missing something here? I have all the spells it said I was missing and such, I have him set to Hybrid stance but he does nothing. Thank you for the help!
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I moved your mq2shaman question to the mq2shaman thread.

Did you review the video/guide?

stances just changes your spell loadout - you're not going to get a whole lot of value from that until you have spells where you need to make choices.

You didn't exactly say what its doing/not doing that you expect it to.

Lvl 2 shaman instantly starts doing stuff

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Sic said:
I moved your mq2shaman question to the mq2shaman thread.

Did you review the video/guide?

stances just changes your spell loadout - you're not going to get a whole lot of value from that until you have spells where you need to make choices.

You didn't exactly say what its doing/not doing that you expect it to.

Lvl 2 shaman instantly starts doing stuff

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I have it started and such, he is doing nothing but following me around and just standing there. My expectations are just to help me dps, buff me with what spells he has and heal as needed so I dont need a healer merc.

I did review the video (nice video, I enjoy your videos as they are very informative).

Thanks
 
tigwelder76 said:
I have it started and such, he is doing nothing but following me around and just standing there. My expectations are just to help me dps, buff me with what spells he has and heal as needed so I dont need a healer merc.

I did review the video (nice video, I enjoy your videos as they are very informative).

Thanks
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These are the spells you have at lvl 2.

you can't nuke with nukes you don't yet have
you can't dot with dots you don't yet have.

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keep in mind shammies are not great solo healers until 85+ their "role" has somewhat changed over time as the game changed.

if you are in chase mode with usemelee on - you'll melee assist your mainassist

since you don't have any other dmg stuff yet - that's the best you're going to get at lvl 2.

you should also have Burst of Flame - the lvl 1 fire DD - we don't automemorize it (and its the only fire nuke you get) - but you can memorize it and it should use it if you have usenukes turned on, and you have more mana than your nuke mana min

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tigwelder76 said:
Thanks, yeah, i cant even get him to melee. Sorry for slow response.
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then this likely means
a: not in an assist mode
b: you don't have your group main assist assigned in your group window
c: don't have meshes in which case you would get kicked out of an assist mode
d: don't have your campradius set appropriately etc.

you should take a look at the how i move my toons around guide

 
Thank you very much Sic!

Edit: I did not have my berserker set as the MA, so the shaman is actually helping with melee now.
 
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Would it be possible to detect Pack Spirit from Druids and not chain cast Spirit of Wolf? Not sure if that is something it can do internally.
 
I guess the issue is, if you are out and about and a random druid casts Pact Spirit and Pact Cholor on you it breaks the plugin. As the Shaman just chain casts regen/chloro/sow/etc. Blocking it for temp purposes, solves it but then it has to be unblocked on all characters for the shaman to recast it.
 
hammackj said:
I guess the issue is, if you are out and about and a random druid casts Pact Spirit and Pact Cholor on you it breaks the plugin. As the Shaman just chain casts regen/chloro/sow/etc. Blocking it for temp purposes, solves it but then it has to be unblocked on all characters for the shaman to recast it.
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howdy hammackj,
there are several spell lines (as mentioned other times in this thread and in the FAQ) that mq2 says stack which don't. There are also spells that over-write one another and other classes will get in a pissing match overwriting spells (non-cwtn plugins aren't using the same buffing checks we're using which also complicates it) - so if your druid is overwriting your shaman's spells, and mq2 says "yes this stacks and you don't have it" - you're going to recast it.

you can turn off usesow and useregen on the shaman if you don't want to block the spells - either by a temporary toggle in the ui window, or by issuing the slash command- so you should consider doing that if you're going to a your druid overwrite everything.

alternatively you can block the druid spells for this mystery-drive-by-plugin-breaking-super-buff-giving-druid

From the FAQ:
Q. Shaman is chain casting something?
A. There are a few lower lvl / mid level buffs that eq/mq2 reports stack that do not. You either have this situation, your buffs are full, or some other issues. I would suggest checking for the red error text that eq gives you to tell you WHY it didn't successfully take hold and then go from there. You can block anything you don't want cast.
 
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Just noticed the pause function when you click the CWTN logo in /shm show. Nice touch. 👍

I like the visual that it's paused. I've definitely jumped into a few fights with the SHM on Pause :)
 
I have what I think will be a stupid question but I can find an answer anywhere. Are the plugins supposed to be run INSTEAD of KissAssist or in addition to?
 
Sic said:
howdy hammackj,
there are several spell lines (as mentioned other times in this thread and in the FAQ) that mq2 says stack which don't. There are also spells that over-write one another and other classes will get in a pissing match overwriting spells (non-cwtn plugins aren't using the same buffing checks we're using which also complicates it) - so if your druid is overwriting your shaman's spells, and mq2 says "yes this stacks and you don't have it" - you're going to recast it.

you can turn off usesow and useregen on the shaman if you don't want to block the spells - either by a temporary toggle in the ui window, or by issuing the slash command- so you should consider doing that if you're going to a your druid overwrite everything.

alternatively you can block the druid spells for this mystery-drive-by-plugin-breaking-super-buff-giving-druid

From the FAQ:
Q. Shaman is chain casting something?
A. There are a few lower lvl / mid level buffs that eq/mq2 reports stack that do not. You either have this situation, your buffs are full, or some other issues. I would suggest checking for the red error text that eq gives you to tell you WHY it didn't successfully take hold and then go from there. You can block anything you don't want cast.
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Thanks I ended up just blocking. I didn't see any options on my shaman Ui for UseSow/UseRegen. I will have to check all the config options. Is it possible to submit pull requests or have local changes?
 
hammackj said:
Is it possible to submit pull requests or have local changes?
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sorry, no and no

the commands are listed in the commands tab (all of the cwtn plugins we keep an up-to-date commands tab, and faq tab)

MQ2Shaman Commands
/shm UseRegen true/false/on/off/0/1 - Use Regen line
/shm UseSow true/false/on/off/0/1 - Uses SoW spell line

and the temp toggle options are in the mq2shaman window
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So if I have a group member die my MQ2Eskay sits and stops pulling(great). Then my Mq2Shaman tries to /corpse summon the dead toon’s corpse but can’t because he does not have consent. So now we are just stuck with my shaman trying to spam summon the corpse.

Is there a setting on the CWTN plugins or is there a different plugin that will auto consent upon death? If not I think it would be a great addition.
 
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