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- #521
well it isn't going to cast haste if it already has haste and it isn't better etc. so yeah, if it has chanter haste it wouldn't try and haste you - otherwise your two hasters would just continually overwrite each other.
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Actually SHM Talisman of Celerity and the named Chanter haste stack (aka. Speed of Novak, ect. along those lines.) and regardless the 90's Shaman does not have chanter in group and is still not hasting the tank or anyone else that happens to be in the group, since he usually only has an Sk for a tank.
It is True at lower levels both the shammy haste and the chanter are the same line and those won't stack but as the chanter starts getting the named haste's they start to stack with the Shm line of Celerity.
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- #523
by "stack" i mean what mq2 is reporting for stacking.
Hi Sic,
Can i ask what is the priority for Shaman on various modes? the main question i'm asking is in regards to Shaman slowing / malo mobs. I believe in terms of actions healig takes the highest priority i heal mode (mr obvious aint i?) but after that when does the shaman decide to Slow ? i noticed when mobs are in camp, it seems shaman doesn't slow as a priority in any of the modes i set it to. Is there anyway to up the priority of slow after shaman decides to heal my lame tank ?
Can i ask what is the priority for Shaman on various modes? the main question i'm asking is in regards to Shaman slowing / malo mobs. I believe in terms of actions healig takes the highest priority i heal mode (mr obvious aint i?) but after that when does the shaman decide to Slow ? i noticed when mobs are in camp, it seems shaman doesn't slow as a priority in any of the modes i set it to. Is there anyway to up the priority of slow after shaman decides to heal my lame tank ?
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- #525
none of the stances change the priority of anything outside of the wintry gift - it just changes the spell loadout.
Slow is the very first thing (outside of gift again) that it does once it has gotten to the point that it is getting a target from the MA. before it gets a target from the tank it is checking for some buffs (dissident or lioness), and burns and heals etc, then does slow, then later determines on dotting/nuking.
Ensure you have an appropriate assistat and appropriate campradius set.
Hi Sic, thanks for the prompt reply. I checked and MA / campraidius all good. The one thing i did notice is one of my DOT heal threshhold is too high so it prioritised to do that. Lowering that helped the shaman slow much quicker. So user error here on my part.
what i did notice during a camp just now is why my perception of slow is well slow... is that if there are more than one mob, the shaman only slows the one the MT is on. Adds dont get slowed. As i dont have AE slow, is there anyway to have shaman slow all adds on aggro / xtarget ?
Thanks,
what i did notice during a camp just now is why my perception of slow is well slow... is that if there are more than one mob, the shaman only slows the one the MT is on. Adds dont get slowed. As i dont have AE slow, is there anyway to have shaman slow all adds on aggro / xtarget ?
Thanks,
- Seller
- #527
that is correct - as in the faq and mentioned other times we don't currently, and don't have any plans to swap around target to slow all the other mobs (as with everything, that may change in the future, but no plans at this time) - we're going to slow the target you're on, or aoe slow (which would still go off your MA's current target). eventually the useslow and useaoeslow spells will be mimic'd for the memorization of the slow spells (they're currently implemented that way for AA slows) - but for the time being ya got whatcha got.
edit: maybe not on FAQ, but mentioned other times, will add to FAQ now.
Re: healing vs slowing - yeah if its meeting its heal obligations it'll heal first
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- #529
YW dude, thanks for stickin with me through the convo. I'll add this to my things to revisit now and again.
haha no problem at all !
I do have a question and not a complaint or critism just a question, for your enchanter your mes routines cycles thruogh adds and mezes them. could slow not work the same? Just wondering was it a technically complex solution to slow all adds or was it more logic based complexity that once you start slowing adds on top of keeping the MT alive and MA debuffed it caused unintended behavior to cycle through and debuff the adds ?
Thanks
I do have a question and not a complaint or critism just a question, for your enchanter your mes routines cycles thruogh adds and mezes them. could slow not work the same? Just wondering was it a technically complex solution to slow all adds or was it more logic based complexity that once you start slowing adds on top of keeping the MT alive and MA debuffed it caused unintended behavior to cycle through and debuff the adds ?
Thanks
- Seller
- #531
it could, it does not currently, as already mentioned no plans for that to change at this time.
- Seller
- #535
heal and hybrid he will memorize it - unless you have memcureall turned on - in which case that takes precedent over that slot
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new issue since CoV release. I have shaman on plugin buffing war on mq2war plugin and he will chain the new ancient coalition buff no stop. doesn't happen with any other shaman buffs. I tried reloading the cwtnbuffs plugin no change. Just disabled alliance not sure if I am missing something else on buff checking side.
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- #538
yup, already addressed and fixed locally - nothing you did wrong, alliance is a weird spell, and i forgot to update the check against the new alliance spells. We should have another RG build in a day or two I'm guessing, and it will be addressed then. until then, you'll have to manage by turning off usealliance
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Dumb guy question for the smart people:
- Added GSta for low/mid lvl.
What is GSta?
- Added GSta for low/mid lvl.
What is GSta?
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mq2shaman is spamming lupine spirit on the first group member. I can get it to stop if i tick BYOS on however once unticked it goes back to spamming lupine spirit. Sorry if this has already been addressed.
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- #543
going to need more information than that - that's not a lot of information to go on.
What is blocking the spell from taking hold? You should get a red eq error message.
is another toon/class casting something and overwriting it causing a buff race loop?
our lupine spirit checks what spell your aa rank casts, and checks that against your buffs, if mq2 says it stacks, we cast it. thats why i need to know what spell is blocking it / overwriting it.
What spell is getting cast from your lupine spirit?
Unless your toon just logged in and hasn't moved - I've seen some eq issue recently where buffs sometimes don't take hold on a character that just logged in (manually casted upon them or otherwise).
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- Seller
- #544
someone else just had a similar issue - and it was due to shm and bst (assuming lower lvl where this occurs) casting over each other nonstop - this is because mq2 sees the spell stacks, and they don't currently have the buff, so it casts it - and so does the other toon. Later on spells don't report that it stacks and overwrites redundantly like this, so it is eventually not a problem - in the mean time if that is what is happening you to, you will want to turn off usesow on the shm (you don't need to byos)
- Seller
- #546
howdy burd,
sucks they haven't fixed this yet
well i put a delay so it waits 2 sconds before trying to re-use it - but no, if eq says its ready we're going to try and use it. and currently, you can't turn off the use of the epic (and if i do make that change it probably won't be right soon)
eq needs to fix their shit.don't forget we're automating stuff - so if we have something that we want to use, and everything is saying we can use it, we're gonna use it
just like a person would click it thinking its ready
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So, I tested this. It is still occuring and I had the good fortune of buffing my group after a wipe. There are no buffs on any toon for it to conflict with. I have looked at my chat logs and I am not getting a spell cast failure or any other warning like blocked or overwrite. The rank is Lupine 4 and my shaman is level 112 and should be casting the higher rank of talatak I have scribed. Again I am not getting any warning or failures so not alot to pass on other then it spams over and over at max rank and my toon dont have any non shaman buffs on as I left their marcos off to monitor mq2shaman plugin.
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- #548
that's not much to go by.
its going to cast it if you don't have the buff - you haven't said if the buff is landing on you.
you said what it "should be casting" but not what it is casting.
Is the buff landing on you?
What spell is it actually casting in the casting bar window?
what other buffs do you have?
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- #550
well sounds like your dude might be bugged? i would try relogging that character or such.
if you don't have the buff, and its not blocked - we're going to cast on you.
so if its not landing on you because of some eq bug - nothing i can do
if you don't have the buff, and its not blocked - we're going to cast on you.
so if its not landing on you because of some eq bug - nothing i can do
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- #552
yeah definitely not something i can fix with mq2shaman, thanks for confirming its more than just killertoxin
Yeah it would be great to have a "If bard is in group then click when me.song = bard clickie"
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- #555
we're gonna click epic when we have xtargets to fight! - valuable casting time.
if you're pulling far enough away that that is problem, you should consider going to the mob with shaman in chase mode
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- #556
pretty sure already said no to this =p
possible down the line - but no interest in changing that at the moment. - I'm not going to make shaman do less shaman stuff if someone has a mis-configured bard setup - a lot of people don't even bother getting their epics on various toons because they're lazy. so at this time, I have zero interest in doing less shaman stuff.
so add that to the no column
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- #558
btw - what is your avatar?
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- #560
wow, i figured was anime or something