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Guide - Import Kissassist Ini From Another Character 1.0

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Background:
I recently created a few new alts and got them to level 100 at which point I figured it would be fun to try kissassist on them.

It's an involved process to say the least, you have to look up all spells, mem them, tweak, read guides, look at older ini's etc.
I was not looking forward to setting it up from scratch for 6 new toons.

So... I introduce to you: The https://www.redguides.com/community...ssist-ini-from-another-character.284/download (download it and put it in your macros folder)

What does it do? Well, it can take ANY kissassist inifile of ANY level (NOTE: I capped spell search to 30 levels in difference because well, it seemed like a reasonable thing to do in order to get better output. In other words, it will only search your chars level - 30 for downgraded spells or your chars level + 30 if you are upgrading, so please don't try to use a level 105 ini on a level 1 char) (but for the SAME class) and upgrade or downgrade all spells used in it, to the new chars equivalent spells, note there is no guessing going on , it will search your new toons spell book, combatabilites, aa's and items to see if it can find the equivalent spell for the new chars level and then it will save it for you in kissassist_<server>_<newtoonsname>.ini

PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO ITS OUTPUT: IF YOU SEE ANY [WARNING] or [ERROR] it means the spell wasn't found or a conversion wasn't possible, so you should go open the ini and manually edit the entry

It does this simply by you running it ingame like this: /mac kissini kissassist_someserver_somealtofyours.ini

It will output a new kissassist ini for the char you run it with, YES you still have to open the ini and manually set like miscgem and check that everything looks right
but it's a HUGE timesaver when it comes to setting things up.

Real Example: I have a character named eqmule on tunare, he is a level 105 shadow knight who has a perfect kissassist_tunare_eqmule.ini already.
I also have a new shadow knight named noobsk he is level 100 (or 85 or whatever it doesn't matter)
I have bought all spells up to his level including all tomes and rk. ii quested dreadmote spells.
I log in noobsk and type /mac kissini kissassist_tunare_eqmule.ini
Now the fun starts, the mq2 window will spit out INFO WARNINGS, ERROR and so on to show you what's going on.
After about 2 mins or so, maybe shorter if you have a fast computer, a new ini will have been created and the spells for it has been memmed.
Ok, good luck, feel free to comment and stuff, if any bugs are found let me know, Id be happy to fix them.
I have successfully upgraded and downgraded inifiles using this macro, I used a level 100 cleric ini I found on this site to make a ini for my level 105 cleric.

English translation:
Rich (BB code):
1. Find the Kiss ini file of the toon you want to copy. e.g Bob is 105 SK and his ini file is kissassist_bob.ini
2. On the toon you want to create the new ini file for eg Sally 85 SK /mac kissini kissassist_bob.ini
3. This will create a file called kissassist_tunare_sally.ini based on the 105 SK's ini parsed down to level 85
4. Edit the file and correct the errors based on the out put from the MQ2 window.
 
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Background:
I recently created a few new alts and got them to level 100 at which point I figured it would be fun to try kissassist on them.

It's an involved process to say the least, you have to look up all spells, mem them, tweak, read guides, look at older ini's etc.
I was not looking forward to setting it up from scratch for 6 new toons.

That is simply put as AWESOME STUFF thank you for creatiung this!

So... I introduce to you: The View attachment 9903

What does it do? Well, it can take ANY kissassist inifile of ANY level (but for the SAME class) and convert it into a new appropriate for your level kissassist_<server>_<name>.ini

It does this simply by you running it ingame like this: /mac kissini kissassist_someserver_somealtofyours.ini

It will output a new kissassist ini for the char you run it with, YES you still have to open the ini and manually set like miscgem and check that everything looks right
but it's a HUGE timesaver when it comes to setting things up.


Ok, good luck, feel free to comment and stuff, if any bugs are found let me know, Id be happy to fix them.
I have successfully upgraded and downgraded inifiles using this macro, I used a level 100 cleric ini I found on this site to make a ini for my level 105 cleric.

AWESOME STUFF! Thank you!
 
Wow this will be a huge timesaver and frankly I've been waiting to set up my 100 shaman with a full kissassist.ini until I got him to 105 simply so I wouldn't have to do it twice with this sounds so much easier lol Thanks!!
 
I read this thread and was thinking, man this is stupid, just rename your toons file to the new one, then I reread it and the bright light came on! OMG this is awesome!
 
I read this thread and was thinking, man this is stupid, just rename your toons file to the new one, then I reread it and the bright light came on! OMG this is awesome!
Lol, if it was just a renaming macro that would have been stupid and I can totally see how someone might think that cause I was in a hurry when I posted it, and now that I too have reread it, I can see that the description of what it does need some improvement.

So... I have edited the first post to try to make it clear that this macro actually tries to find equivalent spells and upgrade/downgrade all of them for the new toon.

Looking forward to someone actually running it on a toon so I get to see some new inis that it created.
 
The more I think about this, since it goes thru spellbook, disc's, AA's and items, the more I realize this will be good to not only setup new toons BUT also to gauge the effectiveness of your currently setup toons. How many times have we missed a clicky, or are using a disc that has been upgraded? Hell the other day I found I was using a spell from 10 lvls ago... With 6 toons (or more) things get lost; you forget you upgraded that 1HS that now has a clicky, you forget that you finally went back to town and bought the last 10 lvls of tomes, you looted an item with a clicky - yeah you were all excited about it dropping - but did you include the clicky in your INI?

This is bloody brilliant!
 
So i could run this, and then just take out the _<server>_and would basically have a new updated ini for my toons?
 
Server is optional yes, in fact the input ini can have any name kissassistwhatever.ini and it will still work. I have so many characters on different servers that have the same name that I just always got used to specifying the server in the ini name.
 
So i could run this, and then just take out the _<server>_and would basically have a new updated ini for my toons?

driike,
Leave the server name in. It is a good habit and the KA 9.0x already recognizes it, probably the 8.x versions do as well. An added bonus is you do not lose the "to be updated" file. It stays pristine with the file name "kissassist_Character.ini" while the new file adds the server "kissassist_erollisi_Character.ini" So if it does not work out you can delete the new file and KA will use the original. It defaults to a file name with "_server_" in it.

Here is a tip........... CHECK the ini file you are copying from. If it is crap you will create a crap file.

As always,
And with this macro thanks to eqmule you should,
Playbetter
 
i actually did that, all 6 have the server in their ini's now :)
EXCElent!!!!

Sooooo.... give.
How's it going? Did it work OK for you? Are you happy with the results? What was the major changes if any? What is your favorite color?

Me, I used it once so far and updated using a bad ini. One I had mutilated and not set back correct. The macro made a uber healer Druid on my lower level. It did everything correctly but the template was not good. I am going to get good at this since I have 210 toons and it will take a long time to do it individually. I foresee making one very good one for each class and that be my "go to" ini.

eqmule,
Do you think my building each class a "go to" ini is a reasonable approach?

As laways,
Playbetter
 
I was actually thinking: not just the go-to approach, but also the go-to for each lvl range. Like a go-to for 85 each class, then again for 95 each class, prolly 100, then 105.
 
EXCElent!!!!

Sooooo.... give.
How's it going? Did it work OK for you? Are you happy with the results? What was the major changes if any? What is your favorite color?

Me, I used it once so far and updated using a bad ini. One I had mutilated and not set back correct. The macro made a uber healer Druid on my lower level. It did everything correctly but the template was not good. I am going to get good at this since I have 210 toons and it will take a long time to do it individually. I foresee making one very good one for each class and that be my "go to" ini.

eqmule,
Do you think my building each class a "go to" ini is a reasonable approach?

As laways,
Playbetter

I'm doing the exact same thing as well, I suspect I will end up having 6 really good ones for the 6 classes I use the most. I think for the next version of this macro I want to add a check in that if you run it without an input ini then it will just scan your ini and make suggestions where it can be improved, I know it can already do that if you fake it's input ini name, but still it would be nice to just use it as a quick way to check if anything sticks out, maybe I'm using a spell that can be upgraded... And so on.
 
Creating the "perfect" .ini to use for each class as a template sounds like a potential community-wide project.
 
Creating the "perfect" .ini to use for each class as a template sounds like a potential community-wide project.

Problem there is what is "perfect" will vary from player to player/group to group/zone to zone depending on style, group makeup , and mobs/terrain/agro factors/mezz-ability...etc... (Group makeup imo being the biggest).
 
EqMule I'm looking at you with that loving Mongo looking at Sherrif Bart look ....

This is friggin HAWSUM!!!!!!! Thank you good sir!
 
"Dual" spells don't appear to get updated properly. Focusing updated the spell but not the matching buff that goes w/ that spell when I ran this on my shaman.
 
"Dual" spells don't appear to get updated properly. Focusing updated the spell but not the matching buff that goes w/ that spell when I ran this on my shaman.

I would guess that this is because the mac looks for/changes the actual spell name. anything after the 1st "|" mark is considered a setting. I'm sure EQMule could possibly adjust this to look for |Dual| notations, but then which buff is he looking for (as those shaman spells give 4); or what if you use the |Dual| tag (as I do) to have it look for a better buff than what your toon casts (ie, Beastlord focus line vs shaman unity line).

So to me, this minor inconvenience is noteworthy (so we all know and understand it will be this way), but not necessarily a "need to fix" problem.
 
The macro already searches for the dual tag and outputs a big "[WARNING] Dual detected in ${NewSpell} it should be manually changed."
see:
Rich (BB code):
/if (${therest.Find[dual]}) {
	/echo [WARNING] Dual detected in ${NewSpell} it should be manually changed.
}
It was the best I could do considering people put different spells they want checked after the tag...

Anyway... when running this macro, pay CLOSE attention to its output, and also note that, you cant just run this macro and go, it WILL make a new setup faster that's for sure, but you still need to look the new ini over and set some things straight, like dual and summon tags for example... (and miscgem, cause it was impossible for me to guess which one people prefer)
bottomline: if you see any WARNING or ERROR when you run the macro, that means, go edit the ini manually.
 
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May be intentional but doesn't seem to do a heck of a lot for bards?

I updated mine & all it found to do was change Aura of the Composer to Aura of Va'Ker.

Didn't seem to do anything for spells in the Mez section. Also nothing for anything referenced only by gem number for twists.

Mostly just posting as an FYI because I searched the thread for 'bard' and didn't see anything - so maybe this will help someone else in the future figure out they need to manually do a bit for bards still.
 
May be intentional but doesn't seem to do a heck of a lot for bards?

I updated mine & all it found to do was change Aura of the Composer to Aura of Va'Ker.

Didn't seem to do anything for spells in the Mez section. Also nothing for anything referenced only by gem number for twists.

Mostly just posting as an FYI because I searched the thread for 'bard' and didn't see anything - so maybe this will help someone else in the future figure out they need to manually do a bit for bards still.

had the same thing, tried it on a couple of bards of different lvls only loaded one spell and didn't change spells in ini to match lvl.
 
had the same thing, tried it on a couple of bards of different lvls only loaded one spell and didn't change spells in ini to match lvl.

I literally just did the same thing last night. The twist sequence would be simply copied because that's how the bard twist works rather than spell names like casters. I had two DPS spells in mine and it did seem to update those and mem'd the new spell. The mez spells changed in the new ini file correctly but it didn't mem' the new mez spells to teh spell gems. I had to update that myself.

Side note, be sure when you do these to save your new spell gem set to the set you have kiss load on start up.
 
Hey guys so please correct me if i have this wrong , u have to have already a high level toon of the same class on your account to use this tool ?
 
Hey guys so please correct me if i have this wrong , u have to have already a high level toon of the same class on your account to use this tool ?

no you just need to have an ini file for a lvl 105 which you can copy from the forums here. then just run this mac on your toon and it will update the spells etc to those of your level..
However ive found it doesn't seem to work to well for bards
 
What does it do? Well, it can take ANY kissassist inifile of ANY level (but for the SAME class) and upgrade or downgrade all spells used in it, to the new chars equivalent spells, note there is no guessing going on , it will search your new toons spell book, combatabilites, aa's and items to see if it can find the equivalent spell for the new chars level and then it will save it for you in kissassist_<server>_<newtoonsname>.ini
 
Ok when i do that i get a Red message that says C:\User\name\desktop\mq2\Release\Macros\kissini.mac
 
I never tested it for bards, people say it doesn't work well for songs. I tried it on a cleric and on a sk and on a wiz and it made great files for them.
 
Where do i get the Macro plugin i thought I got it when i downloaded the bot, But i try and use the run /mac kissini kissassist_Mage.ini and I still get the same message am i missing something a plugin i need to make this work ?

C:\User\name\desktop\mq2\Release\Macros\kissini.mac everytime I try and /mac kissini with every class so far
 
oh my god I never put the macro in the folder lol i am so bad at this ! Thank you

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I honestly did not see where it said to download into Macro folder , i am sure its common sense but i must have none 8(

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Not sure what i am doing wrong i have downloaded it into the macro folder went into game typed the command and again C:\User\name\desktop\mq2\Release\Macros\kissini.mac message everytime
 
I never tested it for bards, people say it doesn't work well for songs. I tried it on a cleric and on a sk and on a wiz and it made great files for them.

It works for most things in the ini file. It doesn't seem to tranfers/convert the mezzes well. I did think it copied teh twist pattern over fine however the problem is that the song line up on your spell gems isn't necessarily the same when it writes the song line to them. Another thing when working with bards and chanters, is I don't think it's updating the mezz level of mobs appropriately to the new spell. Maybe I'm wrong but think I've had to edit that accordingly to match to the new spells lvl cap.
 
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