Question - How are people running raids by themselves?

[error1082]

I am curious how people are running raids by themselves. I get that mq can run an entire group, but after that, is it just dannet commands to all assist certain targets? What about all those conditions, emotes and triggers? I don't see, or haven't seen, scripts for raid content. Are people running it all on a single computer with reduced resources, like stick figures? Are they using scripts from "other" alternate sites?

I have seen people do manual runs of raids but it's very basic "assist me" type mobs and nothing modern that requires player input. Do you secretly run a sweat shop of underpaid netcafe refugee elves to play with you?

 

[TinyBubbles]

Do you secretly run a sweat shop of underpaid netcafe refugee elves to play with you?

As far as I'm concerned, that's what's happening. I managed to get the hang of and understand how to run a group over 3 or 5 months before I felt comfortable, but I have some minor aversion to things that go programie. Folks that run 2 group - 9 group raids amaze me.

 

[Tim2051]

I think the cool thing about MQ is that anyone with the creativity and the ability to work some code magic can make some pretty cool things. That's for individual toons or more.

And I'm sure many sweat shop Elves

 

[Algar]

I am curious how people are running raids by themselves. I get that mq can run an entire group, but after that, is it just dannet commands to all assist certain targets? What about all those conditions, emotes and triggers? I don't see, or haven't seen, scripts for raid content. Are people running it all on a single computer with reduced resources, like stick figures? Are they using scripts from "other" alternate sites?

I have seen people do manual runs of raids but it's very basic "assist me" type mobs and nothing modern that requires player input. Do you secretly run a sweat shop of underpaid netcafe refugee elves to play with you?

No we're writing scripts ourselves
Sometimes they are shared in things like LEM library.

Some things can just be handled on the fly with hotkeys depending on number of characters and what you're doing specifically
But it seems on live those things are few and far between

 

[kronoislife]

A lot of mechanics can be brute forced by dragon glyphing too =D

 

[Szazor]

If you break down the mechanics of a raid, most of them can be handled very simply.
a lem or eqevent that can work for a single toon - can very easily work for a entire raid.
likewise have 2 or 3 toons setup as Main Assist is not much different to running 1 group.

Ie Tank group 1 WAR WAR PAL SK CLR CLR can MT BOSS 1 MAIN ASSIST 1

Tank Group 2 WAR WAR PAL SK CLR CLR can run around and have everyone chase MAIN ASSIST 2

etc etc.
You dont need a script for every raid.

The hardest part is the work required making gear and keeping everyone organised. It becomes a lot of work.

I run 3 PC's

And I try to be 100% invisible.

1. Run 3 toons to a raid giver, create campfire. Get DZ
2. wait 30 seconds...
3. /useitem Fellowship to get 12 toons to quest dude, then Fellowship zones in.
4. Create Banner.
5. Banner Raid Force in.

I'm sure this is not actually invisible to DBG, but it will certainly be minimalist to everyone else on server.

 

[dewey2461]

Basically you have to isolate the key events and write code to deal with it. Or be so overpowered that they don't matter.

Once you've got the gist you end tweaking the last one you did to fit the next one because there are only a few core things.

1 - run away from raid.
2 - run away to specific spot(s)
3 - say something
4 - get cures
5 - stop attacking

etc.

 

[dobey1]

The main difference between real players and a MQ driven raid is perfection. The code never makes a mistake, never misses a click. I don't run raids but run one optimized group. I have highly optimized it for years, choosing the best classes that work the best together. Then perfecting how they use their skills and clickies etc. They are group geared and it is easy for me to hit 25 to 28 million dps taking down a named. Zarek is my favorite parse mob at almost 1 billion hp, and my group geared group can do him in 30 seconds. I can only imaging what highly tuned raid geared groups can do.

 

[NALGAS374]

I am curious how people are running raids by themselves. I get that mq can run an entire group, but after that, is it just dannet commands to all assist certain targets? What about all those conditions, emotes and triggers? I don't see, or haven't seen, scripts for raid content. Are people running it all on a single computer with reduced resources, like stick figures? Are they using scripts from "other" alternate sites?

I have seen people do manual runs of raids but it's very basic "assist me" type mobs and nothing modern that requires player input. Do you secretly run a sweat shop of underpaid netcafe refugee elves to play with you?

LEMS

 

[Smartiez]

I have been raiding with boxes on raids with other users for a few years now. Knowing how to make a lem or know how to make a Lua for yourself is key. Everything in this game can be 100% automated if done right from my experience and raiding.

Even the hardest raid in the game can be done this way in era, and I have seen it.

 

[Blasty]

I've done a few Lua's that help my complete raids and even sold some.
I gotta says that the fun of raids goes away when it's all automated.

 

[phayati]

What are LEMs?

 

[knave23]

What are LEMs?

I believe this: https://www.redguides.com/community/resources/mighty-lua-event-manager.2539/

 

[Jarlentor]

Do you secretly run a sweat shop of underpaid netcafe refugee elves to play with you?

I am super interested in this...... Have they unionized yet? Just what type of whips do I need to invest in to keep them working at peak efficiencfy? Can I minimize overhead by making each one run a group itself?
This is a very intriguing system of slavery that has me fascinated

 

[knave23]

I am super interested in this...... Have they unionized yet? Just what type of whips do I need to invest in to keep them working at peak efficiencfy? Can I minimize overhead by making each one run a group itself?
This is a very intriguing system of slavery that has me fascinated

Yeah just hand out some of these to your 8 most trustworthy or easily cowed elves and make sure your ac is high enough they can never hit you even if they unionize and turn on you. Then just promote from within as needed and make sure to reward good behavior with buffs or iron rations or something

 

[NALGAS374]

I've done a few Lua's that help my complete raids and even sold some.
I gotta says that the fun of raids goes away when it's all automated.

speak for yourself....

 

[dewey2461]

I gotta says that the fun of raids goes away when it's all automated.

I find it quite enjoyable to see your raid run through a raid flawlessly with minimal input. Its quite a challenge to get everything perfect.

I wrote up a macro to run PoM raid flawless. It was amazing to watch it do its thing.

Sadly, daybreak started really banning accounts and after people quit its no longer that fun to play.

 

[error1082]

I am super interested in this...... Have they unionized yet? Just what type of whips do I need to invest in to keep them working at peak efficiencfy? Can I minimize overhead by making each one run a group itself?
This is a very intriguing system of slavery that has me fascinated

Just setup a harem of streamers on "OnlyElves" for the elves to simp to and tell them that farming raids will make their favorite lady happy.

 

[Nightmare327]

I have seen some of the scripts these raid boxers use, and they range from very minimal to pretty elaborate. A lot of the boxers will manually run most of the mechanics, then let the script handle things like some specific mechanics where they might need to burn a specific mob when it spawns.

 

[Blasty]

speak for yourself....

Guess I did

 

[Algar]

That's a good point
I handle some things with six or 12 using strategic hotkeys that I'm sure could be expanded to a large number of PCs with little work.

There's likely a decent amount of overlap between controlling six well and controlling 54 well

 

[error1082]

If you break down the mechanics of a raid, most of them can be handled very simply.
a lem or eqevent that can work for a single toon - can very easily work for a entire raid.
likewise have 2 or 3 toons setup as Main Assist is not much different to running 1 group.

Ie Tank group 1 WAR WAR PAL SK CLR CLR can MT BOSS 1 MAIN ASSIST 1

Tank Group 2 WAR WAR PAL SK CLR CLR can run around and have everyone chase MAIN ASSIST 2

etc etc.
You dont need a script for every raid.

The hardest part is the work required making gear and keeping everyone organised. It becomes a lot of work.

I run 3 PC's

And I try to be 100% invisible.

1. Run 3 toons to a raid giver, create campfire. Get DZ
2. wait 30 seconds...
3. /useitem Fellowship to get 12 toons to quest dude, then Fellowship zones in.
4. Create Banner.
5. Banner Raid Force in.

I'm sure this is not actually invisible to DBG, but it will certainly be minimalist to everyone else on server.

Is there a repository for LEM or MQEvent configs that people have already created to not duplicate efforts?

 

[Sic]

Is there a repository for LEM or MQEvent configs that people have already created to not duplicate efforts?

the lem resource points to the lem library (which is a level 2 resource)

Lua Event Manager (LEM) Event Library

Lua Event Manager (LEM) is a lua script which combines features of MQ2Events and MQ2React plugins. It allows you to manage small lua scripts which will run based on text based events or as reactions to conditions like the current state of a TLO...

www.redguides.com

 

[fakename]

the real trick is having a server to yourself so you dont get reported. mine is named rizlona it was very kind of daybreak to make a server for me and my friends.

a big skill in boxing a raid i havent seen anyone mention is your set up or checklist. I wrote down everything i need to do with my automation for each fight after i have beaten it. for example i need to load eqlp so i have a trigger to know when the big ae is about to happen so i can have my clrs and pld splash . i also want the raid assisting this person and i want to have these socials on these buttons so i can force my off tanks to go to their locs and pick up their adds and to turn on and off Lua chase as i need. or i need to turn on the lem to bane these mobs when they spawn

 

[error1082]

the real trick is having a server to yourself so you dont get reported. mine is named rizlona it was very kind of daybreak to make a server for me and my friends.

a big skill in boxing a raid i havent seen anyone mention is your set up or checklist. I wrote down everything i need to do with my automation for each fight after i have beaten it. for example i need to load eqlp so i have a trigger to know when the big ae is about to happen so i can have my clrs and pld splash . i also want the raid assisting this person and i want to have these socials on these buttons so i can force my off tanks to go to their locs and pick up their adds and to turn on and off lua chase as i need. or i need to turn on the lem to bane these mobs when they spawn

I suppose you could practice on an EMU server, but if I recall, there aren't any EMU server up to date on expansions. They are all previous older versions?

I suppose there is the test server, which is pretty sparse, but they suspend there too.

 

[Sic]

Please keep this on topic and not a baspend thread.

 

[fakename]

I suppose you could practice on an EMU server, but if I recall, there aren't any EMU server up to date on expansions. They are all previous older versions?

I suppose there is the test server, which is pretty sparse, but they suspend there too.

i was making a joke.