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Guide - Heroes Are Forged - Laurion Song - Sic vid

56 second kill for the non believers hehe (video seems 1:16, didn't bother to watch again to see if its really :56 or 1:16 - you be the judge) - If I recall his claim on :56 was his best on forums, no reason to doubt it.


holy crap! How is this even possible?
 
I don't know what the actual clickies in this mission are for, but I think they banish you
EQresource has instructions on how to do it. You need 3 chars to do it right and you get a buff. If you do it wrong, the character gets banished. If you activate the buff, you break one of the achievements. In the raid, if you don't do the clicks, the bosses keep respawning.
 
EQresource has instructions on how to do it. You need 3 chars to do it right and you get a buff. If you do it wrong, the character gets banished. If you activate the buff, you break one of the achievements. In the raid, if you don't do the clicks, the bosses keep respawning.
Did they ever fix the raid so that you actually have to loot them?
Last time I ran on beta just leaving the sparks on the corpses it broke the respawning since it was not in anyone's inventory they would never respawn
 
All morning I've been unable to request this mission. "...because your party's minimum level is too low."

Everyone 125. Have logged out, restarted everything, and different group make-ups and counts.
Was able to request Final Fugue, though.

Anyone else seen this?

EDIT: My bad. Turns out random characters were logging in as the level 1 Alt Persona I tested with. DIdn't even notice. My lord that was horrible and confusing.
Not sure why it happened but had to run that char to a "Fast Camp" zone to undo it. Grrr, I hate these. Can't even delete
 
Ok, so what's the trick to not blowing up at the start of Shalowain? Right as Shalowain aggroed, my tank and bard died instantly from the notes. Then it became a kiting circus to get battle rezzes back. By then, burns were wasted and it was a clusterfuck from there on out.

It was barely a win, but I don't see how to get the Soundproof achievement.
 
Ok, so what's the trick to not blowing up at the start of Shalowain? Right as Shalowain aggroed, my tank and bard died instantly from the notes. Then it became a kiting circus to get battle rezzes back. By then, burns were wasted and it was a clusterfuck from there on out.

It was barely a win, but I don't see how to get the Soundproof achievement.
The LEM’s posted are usually good enough for me to only eat 1AE. I’ve gotten soundproof a few times. Biggest thing is to get your tank on shalowein instantly so he doesn’t end up being called. I have a /nav spawn Shalowein button that has the alt act for Hates Attraction I hit right as or even a little before Lich dies.
 
Ok, so what's the trick to not blowing up at the start of Shalowain? Right as Shalowain aggroed, my tank and bard died instantly from the notes. Then it became a kiting circus to get battle rezzes back. By then, burns were wasted and it was a clusterfuck from there on out.

It was barely a win, but I don't see how to get the Soundproof achievement.
I've had the most success with the LEM that Sic mentioned in this thread. I set the group to Mode 0 (Manual) as soon as the lich dies, then gain aggro on Shalowain. After that, I switch to Mode 2 (Chase Assist) for the burn phase. I was already at max AA going into the expansion, but gaining a few thousand more AAs in LS helped the group survive long enough to kite Shalowain and the mummy.
 
Ok, so what's the trick to not blowing up at the start of Shalowain? Right as Shalowain aggroed, my tank and bard died instantly from the notes. Then it became a kiting circus to get battle rezzes back. By then, burns were wasted and it was a clusterfuck from there on out.

It was barely a win, but I don't see how to get the Soundproof achievement.
Soundproof is definitely a tougher one. I usually engage Shal right at spawn, but then target myself and kite a bit down one of the sides to avoid the AE and wait for the first 2 toons to be called.

The lem that @Overtimer made HERE works best for me. The one in this post runs the toons as well but I have always used part of those areas to kite or engage the boss it seems so they get hit with the echo.

When the 2 toons run away, I burn Shal and move from one corner to the other around teh center area to avoid the echoes completely so I make sure I get the achievement. Hope this helps!

Probably an easier way, but this seems to work for me most of the time.
 
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All three cheevs first try - thanks for the tips and for the video, Sic. Very easy to do w/o LEM or anything other than hotkeys.
step 1) Watch video
step 2a) Do what sic does
step 2b) Fellowship Ogre, and Perfected Lev if you're a gnomelord like me
step 3) win.


For "Cracked" I had SK, SHM, BST pets, as well as bard pets. They all had dimensional warrior armor, fwiw.
I just burned off the top... accidentally. Very easy mission. Have map out. Back down the aura things like Sic does. Hotkey. Ezpz.
 
Ok, so what's the trick to not blowing up at the start of Shalowain? Right as Shalowain aggroed, my tank and bard died instantly from the notes. Then it became a kiting circus to get battle rezzes back. By then, burns were wasted and it was a clusterfuck from there on out.

It was barely a win, but I don't see how to get the Soundproof achievement.
get your tank on/near shalow early, so he doesnt get emoted- use the lems for all your other toons and they should take off to safe area if called. Hopefully you can still manage to finish the lich and mummys while all this is happening o.O alt strat: get 20-50m dps and delete everything.
 
I just got my first win using Sic's strat and the runaway LEM. I ate about 20 wipes first, but finally got it. Thanks, RG homies.
 
Ok, so what's the trick to not blowing up at the start of Shalowain? Right as Shalowain aggroed, my tank and bard died instantly from the notes. Then it became a kiting circus to get battle rezzes back. By then, burns were wasted and it was a clusterfuck from there on out.

It was barely a win, but I don't see how to get the Soundproof achievement.
Don't bunch up at the start of Shalowain. Keep your group spread out while the lich is dying until you see who gets the emote and then run those characters away while the remaining 4 engage.
 


Heroes Are Forged - SicVid - All Melee Group

Here is the LEM thanks @burdsjm & @Trapper
Lua:
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Tips:
- Save burns for sha
- You can also kill the 20% spider BEFORE killing the queen so you don't end up with a spooder walking around snaring you.
- There are some strategies for staying on the lich more regularly, a LEM might be a good idea here.

The spider really hurt us, as you bowl over Shalowain, with a mummy... ☠️

FYI I think the mummy does 225k every 6 seconds..
 
Just keep in mind that if you're using the lem Sic has listed, that it puts cwtn powered characters in mode 0. If you're using ka on anything, you'll need to add /mqp on and /mqp off commands to work on those. Otherwise if those characters get called, you'll always fail the achievement. The listed lem will give you the few seconds you need to begin kiting her.
 
I finally got all three cheeses using @Sic's method. I had to /mqp my bard and run him manually, but otherwise it was mostly pretty simple.

I learned a few things dying to this mission 30x, though.
1) If your pets aren't doing enough DPS on eggs, give them pet weapons (if you haven't already).
2) I use a BST and SK for pets, that's all. I set the BST to BURNALWAYS from the start, which does enough added DPS to the slime not to get the AE, which I would without at least a small burn), and also adds enough pet DPS that the eggs poof pretty quickly. I didn't notice much lost DPS on later burns, but doing this definitely got me the Cracked achievement.
3) I tried @num1pkfutura Lua for the mission but kept running into issues and decided to scrap it. BUT! The takeaway from that Lua is to use Hunter mode during the Lich. I'd swapped to Sic Tank once I got Shalo up, but having the Lich on Hunter made it significantly easier.
4) You don't really have to kite Shalo if the two targeted toons are running. Just burn her in place.
 
Ok, 9th time was the charm, I have finally beat this stupid mission but I still blew Soundproof right at the end due to boxes pathing oddly and running right into the sound bubble. A big part of what had kept me from winning was getting stuck on the damn water and lava pools, using the djin illusion fixed the issue as it rolls over stuff np.

Would it be possible to make a LEM that could just make your toons skirt around the sound bubbles given they are just an invisible npc with an aura?
 
I dont understand, in his video the spider never warps anywhere, he just burns it down in place. No warp, no eggs, no spiders, nothing. How?
Dps. Saw some guy streaming this recently, that group unloaded on the spider and it was over pretty much immediately. Wasn't boxed, all real players in raid gear, a mage, wizards, a sk and I think shaman.
 
Dps. Saw some guy streaming this recently, that group unloaded on the spider and it was over pretty much immediately. Wasn't boxed, all real players in raid gear, a mage, wizards, a sk and I think shaman.

Looking closer at the video, I see the HP on the spider jumping so I think he may have edited the video and cut alot out of it to make it seem fast. :shrug:
 
Looking closer at the video, I see the HP on the spider jumping so I think he may have edited the video and cut alot out of it to make it seem fast. :shrug:
Its an impressive fight, but yes it has been edited. blocks the stun from the goo at 24:47 (m:s), and kills shaolen at 27:33.
 
Looking closer at the video, I see the HP on the spider jumping so I think he may have edited the video and cut alot out of it to make it seem fast. :shrug:
No, not the video linked here. That was someone else I saw; there was no edititing. Just pure carnage.

Seeing it made me very sad that I can't do it with my toons.
 
I have finally gotten Soundproof without using fancy LEMs or hotkeys, I just kited the boss around the forge while my boxes beat her down in chase mode.

The huge slime starts the fire burst thing at 60s into his fight, kill it faster with ~3.4mil dps and no problems.
The spider is a pita, it had me running side to side this time and upon killing the eggs she kept warping back to her first spawn point and made dps a bit of a pain but after 4 egg cycles she died with an average dps of 996k overall.
The lich is a warping bitch but if you down him under 90 seconds he will not spawn his add, 2.4mil dps drops him before the add spawns.
Shalo isn't very hard, its just her stupid song pets that explode if they catch their targets that sucks, keep her moving and just kite the songs.

The biggest things I did to make this easier was to use the editor to map out the pathing around the forge and made a big ring of preferred pathing then some prefered pathing runs to the upper rooms, this stopped my boxes from going off and getting lost and just pathing back and forth. The next biggest thing is if you don't have Djinn illusion mask to use "grow" on any smaller chars or use the barbarian campfire for the illusion to make you larger.
 
Guide - Heroes Are Forged - Laurion Song - Sic vid

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