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Question - Few Questions Need help (1 Viewer)

AkronzFurey

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Hi All I have a few questions for a few classes trying to work the ini's but doing something wrong

BARD:
First My 92 bard i want him to twist med/heal song with constant mez song because if i get 2 mobs in camp he nor my enchanter mezez them they just stand there and die. ive tried changing spell gems and naming spells from book doesnt work.

Enchanter
Doesnt Mez anyone

Cleric:
Whether or not he is in the group he Refuses to heal anyone i heard xtarget is how you make him heal someone outside of group but tried group member number and name an didnt work

Beastlord
When he gets to much aggro wont FD or play possum
 
Hi All I have a few questions for a few classes trying to work the ini's but doing something wrong

BARD:
First My 92 bard i want him to twist med/heal song with constant mez song because if i get 2 mobs in camp he nor my enchanter mezez them they just stand there and die. ive tried changing spell gems and naming spells from book doesnt work.

Enchanter
Doesnt Mez anyone

Cleric:
Whether or not he is in the group he Refuses to heal anyone i heard xtarget is how you make him heal someone outside of group but tried group member number and name an didnt work

Beastlord
When he gets to much aggro wont FD or play possum
howdy Akronz - sorry to hear about your challenges.

could you let us know what automation you're using so i can move your quesiton to the respective section and so people can help?

I'm guessing kissassist or muleassist - but without knowing which i can't move your thread to the appropriate section.

once we know what automation we'll want to see some sections of the inis in question so we can see if there are issues or what adjustments can/should be made.

let us know
 
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Hi All I have a few questions for a few classes trying to work the ini's but doing something wrong

BARD:
First My 92 bard i want him to twist med/heal song with constant mez song because if i get 2 mobs in camp he nor my enchanter mezez them they just stand there and die. ive tried changing spell gems and naming spells from book doesnt work.

Enchanter
Doesnt Mez anyone

Cleric:
Whether or not he is in the group he Refuses to heal anyone i heard xtarget is how you make him heal someone outside of group but tried group member number and name an didnt work

Beastlord
When he gets to much aggro wont FD or play possum
Recommend you try out the CWTN (MQ2Enchanter) enchanter plug-in. It is currently in Beta (Free) and it is sweeeet.
 
tried that dont know how to get the interface up to use settings of it. but think i got the enchanter fixed just having issues with bard twisting not sure what numbers correspond with trying to make my bard twist manasong and aoe mez
 
tried that dont know how to get the interface up to use settings of it. but think i got the enchanter fixed just having issues with bard twisting not sure what numbers correspond with trying to make my bard twist manasong and aoe mez
If you're interested in getting started with the cwtn pugins

> HERE < is info for kissassist settings. its not going to just twist aoemez (unless you set it up in your regular twist) but normally you could set your aoe mez in your mez section.
 
thanx been looking at it all and its still greek to me im using bard ini from the library and not sure how to set standard twisting to play level 93 invis mez ( 4 mobs ) heal selos and repeat this way if i pull more than 1 mob i can keep mezzing the adds and deal as i kill...

my enchanter is another story will be seperate post i think
 
tried that dont know how to get the interface up to use settings of it. but think i got the enchanter fixed just having issues with bard twisting not sure what numbers correspond with trying to make my bard twist manasong and aoe mez
A...make certain you've created the mesh files, read about it >HERE<...There's an .exe file you have to run outside the game first, otherwise they'll just stand there and do nothing.
 
ok did all that right now stuck with bard twisting cant seem to get it to do what i want. Im trying to make it only twist chorus of rodcet and AOE Serene wave centered on him and he plays everything else but. ive used /twist 6 12 so he continually twists those two songs but doesnt. this way if i pull 2-4 mobs at once he will keep them mezzed and my mage can kill one at a time
 
ok did all that right now stuck with bard twisting cant seem to get it to do what i want. Im trying to make it only twist chorus of rodcet and AOE Serene wave centered on him and he plays everything else but. ive used /twist 6 12 so he continually twists those two songs but doesnt. this way if i pull 2-4 mobs at once he will keep them mezzed and my mage can kill one at a time
Hmmm...i've not been able to get into/figure out bards w/ kissassist. Best I could do was get them to 110+ and i just load Sic's KA Ini from resources. I strongly encourage switching to an enc w/ CWTN plug-in for enchanter for crowd control. I'm sure other's have figured it out but it really isn't worth the hassle. I mainly use bard now to max out overhaste/spell hits with either zerk or mage crew...they do a little dps and help a little with crowd control with that ini (Make sure you get their autogrant aa's) but beyond that they're not reliable enough (probably my fault) yet for me to set it and forget it which is what i prefer.
 
What level is your bard now? prolly higher than the posted, let me know and ill setup a KA ini for ya and send to ya
 
which bard do you need the INI for or both?
If you've got the knowledge to make one for each i think that'd benefit the community as a whole. The one Sic created is pretty good but I've noticed most of the ini's posted assume these boxes will have AA/Autogrants (which eventually they might)...but they're at the bottom of my Krono popping list.
 
If you've got the knowledge to make one for each i think that'd benefit the community as a whole. The one Sic created is pretty good but I've noticed most of the ini's posted assume these boxes will have AA/Autogrants (which eventually they might)...but they're at the bottom of my Krono popping list.
i can, ive done it for several others that where leveling bards but hadnt gotten to aaing them. ill stick to the basic auto grant aa's. will take a day or two but ill get em setup
 
@AkronzFurey : I would like to try to help you. In order to be able to do so I would need a copy of, or a link to the specific INI you are using.
There are many different inis in the library, so more Infos would be helpful to identify the right ones.
 
While leveling toons I do not use KA its always CWTN plugins or RGmercs. I dont like having to edit the files every 5 levels. At 115 I use CWTN on classes that I can and for those cant then I make a KA ini particularly my bard. That said if you wish to keep using KA then I would get a 115 ini file from the library and comment out all the clickies you dont have, edit the spell names and buffs for your current level. The other modules should run just fine.
 
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To test-use the INI I would like to know exact, what you changed at which place.
Best would be to have a copy of the INI as you use it.
As my Bard does nicely what I am expecting including mezzes single and aoe, I am confident, that we shall be able to get your bard to do what you like.
If you want to post your INI, the symbol </> (insert code) would be best, as I can easily copy/paste your INI that way.
 
my bard is 94 im trying to get him to twist chorus of rodcet and wave of slumber i think unless im confusing it with enchanter which doesnt mez anything but dps lol

for bar using level 90 ini for level 93-95 an just changed names of some of the spells
https://www.redguides.com/community/resources/90-heroic-brd-bard-kissassist-11-for-2020.1608/
Well,if you are trying to just twist 2 songs it wont work, wave have a cooldown, its best to use 5 songs plus wave, or just set INI to mezz 2+ mobs and twist dps songs
 
To test-use the INI I would like to know exact, what you changed at which place.
Best would be to have a copy of the INI as you use it.
As my Bard does nicely what I am expecting including mezzes single and aoe, I am confident, that we shall be able to get your bard to do what you like.
If you want to post your INI, the symbol </> (insert code) would be best, as I can easily copy/paste your INI that way.

im using this ini for Bard


[General]
KissAssistVer=12.001

TwistOn=1
TwistMed=12
TwistWhat= 12

XTSlot=0
Role=assist
CampRadius=200
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
EQBCOn=1
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Bard|93|FREE
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
DefaultUI=TRUE
MedStop=100
CorpseRecoveryOn=0

[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=5
Buffs1=Aura of the Composer|Aura
Buffs2=Selo's Sonata|Cond1
Buffs3=Illusion: |Remove
Buffs4=Jungle Raptor Saddle|Mount
Buffs5=Pulse of Lunanyn
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=3
PowerSource=NULL

[Melee]
MeleeTwistOn=1
MeleeTwistWhat= 12
AssistAt=98
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=125
StickHow=snaproll rear
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=0

[Pull]
PullTwistOn=1
PullWith=Sonic Disturbance
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=250
MaxZRange=100
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=3
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=40
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=100|114
PullArcWidth=0
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
PullOnReturn=0

[AE]
AEOn=1
AESize=4
AERadius=70
AE1=Lullaby of the Forlorn|3
AE2=Pulse of Lunanyn|99
AE3=Aura of Rodcet|89
AE4=NULL

[DPS]
DPSOn=2
DPSSize=20
DPSSkip=1
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=command:/dismount|100|Once
DPS2=Funeral Dirge|99|Cond2
DPS3=Quick Time|99|Cond2
DPS4=Spire of the Minstrels|99|Cond2
!DPS5=Song of Stone|99|Cond2
DPS6=Vainglorious Shout|99|Cond3
!DPS7=NULL
DPS8=Dance of Blades|99|Cond2
DPS9=command:/stopdisc|99|Cond5
DPS10=Deftdance Discipline|100|Cond6
DPS11=command:/pet qswarm|99|Cond7
!DPS12=Lyrical Prankster|99
DPS13=Bladed Song|99
DPS14=Fierce Eye|99
DPS15=Cacophony|99|Mob
DPS16=Intimidation|99|Mash
DPS17=${InvSlot[Chest].Item.Name}|99
DPS18=Boastful Bellow|98|Cond4
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=Thousand Blades|99|
DebuffAllOn=0
DPS5=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS12=NULL


[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
AggroSize=3
Aggro1=Fading Memories|80|>
Aggro2=Shield of Notes|90|>
Aggro3=Hymn of the Last Stand|95|>
Aggro2nd=0

[Mez]
MezOn=1
MezRadius=100
MezMinLevel=60
MezMaxLevel=112
MezStopHPs=90
MezSpell=Slumber of Sionachie
MezAESpell=Wave of Dreams|3

MezDebuffOnResist=0
MezDebuffSpell=Your Debuff Spell

[Burn]
BurnSize=1
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=NULL
BurnText=Burn
UseTribute=0

[KConditions]
ConOn=1
CondSize=8
Cond1=!${Me.Buff[Selo's Accelerato].ID} && !${Me.Buff[Selo's Accelerando].ID}
Cond2=${Target.Named}
Cond3=${Me.PctEndurance}>30
Cond4=${Target.Named} && ${Target.BuffsPopulated} && !${Target.Buff[Boastful Bellow].ID}
Cond5=${Me.ActiveDisc.ID} && ${Target.Named} && ${Me.ActiveDisc.Name.NotEqual[Thousand Blades]} && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Thousand Blades]}
Cond6=${Me.XTarget} > 0 && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Deftdance Discipline]} && ${Me.PctHPs} < 30
Cond7=${SpawnCount[${Me.Name}'s pet]}>0
Cond8=${Me.Mounted}


[Spells]
MiscGem=10
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
CastingInterruptOn=0
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KA
Gem1=Aria of the Composer
Gem2=Thunderous Barrier
Gem3=Arcane Chorus
Gem4=Lyrin's Spiteful Lyric
Gem5=NULL
Gem6=NULL
Gem7=Lullaby of the Forlorn
Gem8=NULL
Gem9=Slumber of the Mindshear
Gem10=NULL
Gem11=Pulse of Lunanyn
Gem12=NULL
Gem13=NULL

[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
HealsSize=5
Heals1=Pulse of Lunanyn|99
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=1
AutoRezOn=0
RezMeLast=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[PullAdvanced]
PullLocsOn=0
[KissError]
LastCMD:=/endmacro
ErrorDateTime:=04/06/2021 21:01:05
ErrorMsg:=NULL
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=9529509
BuildDate:=20210402
CurrentUI:=Default
 
At first glance:

Gem12=NULL
But
TwistMed=12
TwistWhat= 12
MeleeTwistWhat= 12

At all possible situations those twists ask the bard to play continuously the song in Gem 12 but it seems empty
—---------
MezSpell=Slumber of Sionachie
MezAESpell=Wave of Dreams|3
But
Gem9=Slumber of the Mindshear
And no Gem with wave....
Gem9 is not loaded with the song defined in the chapter 'mez', I cannot find the song 'wave of Dreams' in any of your gems defined in spell-setup
--------
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KA

I never remember the precise syntax to load the Gens in chapter [Spells] .. will check it out
----
I am not at my pc actually. When I am at pc next time, I am going to create a working version.

In the meantime you may try the following modification:
Gem9=Slumber of Sionachie
Gem10=Wave of Dreams
Gem11=NULL
Gem12=Pulse of Lunanyn
Gem13=NULL
 
Bards are different to all other classes. Their melodies call the spell gems and therefore all spells you want to sing in your melodies need to be in the slot called by the melodies.
 
my spells section of my Bard 115:
[Spells]
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
CastingInterruptOn=0
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KissAssist
Gem1=Aria of Margidor
Gem2=Arcane Symphony
Gem3=Omorden's Spiteful Lyric
Gem4=Omorden's Song of Suffering
Gem5=War March of Radiwol
Gem6=Yelinak's Insult
Gem7=Slumber of Zburator
Gem8=Zlexak's Chant of Disease
Gem9=Sontalak's Chant of Flame
Gem10=Malvus's Chant of Poison
Gem11=Yelinak's Chant of Frost
Gem12=Composite Psalm
Gem13=Wave of Sleep

your Spells-Section:
[Spells]
MiscGem=10
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
CastingInterruptOn=0
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KA
.....


so I presume you shall change "SpellSetName=KA" to "SpellSetName=KissAssist"

as the loginserver are down, I cant login to test-load your ini today
 
Here are the modification to your ini I suggest:

your spells section should be:
[CODE lang="ini" title="Spells"][Spells]
MiscGem=6
MiscGemLW=5
MiscGemRemem=6
CastingInterruptOn=0
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KissAssist
Gem1=Aria of the Composer
Gem2=Thunderous Barrier
Gem3=Arcane Chorus
Gem4=Lyrin's Spiteful Lyric
Gem5=NULL
Gem6=NULL
Gem7=Lullaby of the Forlorn
Gem8=NULL
Gem9=Slumber of Kolain
Gem10=Wave of the Conductor
Gem11=NULL
Gem12=Pulse of Lunanyn
Gem13=NULL[/CODE]

modified mez-songs, SpellSetName, MiscGem, MiscGemLW

your Heals section should be disactivated, as otherwhise it will interfere. Bards are not really usefull at healing (HealsOn=0)
this would be your modified heals-section
[CODE lang="ini" title="Heals"][Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=Pulse of Lunanyn|99
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=1
AutoRezOn=0
RezMeLast=0[/CODE]
modified : HealsOn=0

MezOn00/1/2/30=Off/1=Single & AE Mez/2=Single Mez only/3=AE Mez only.
I understood that your bard is 94.
If thats the case, he can't mem "Wave of Dreams", and he can't mezz upto 112
I adapted your "Spells"-section accordingly above and here's your mez-section
leave MezzOn=2 (single target mez only) til you hit 95. The ae "wave of the conductor" is lvl 95
at lvl 95 set MezzOn=1 and your bard will single mezz and ae-mezz, depending on the amout of targtes to mezz and if ae-mezz is on cooldown
[CODE lang="ini" title="Mez"][Mez]
MezOn=2
MezRadius=100
MezMinLevel=60
MezMaxLevel=98
MezStopHPs=90
MezSpell=Slumber of Kolain
MezAESpell=Wave of the Conductor|3

MezDebuffOnResist=0
MezDebuffSpell=Your Debuff Spell[/CODE]

your mezzes will work upto lvl 98 so modified "MezMaxLevel=98" and the mezz-songs

finally, to make things run smoother I would modify the dps-section
-set the lines of dps in order of importance (Thousand Blades on DPS1)
-avoid to "stopdisk" in the dps-section ... bards can launch insta-cast aas while playing a melody
-for the line "DPS1=command:/dismount|100|Once" I see no reason/motivation .. it will just cost valuable cycle-time
[CODE lang="ini" title="DPS"]
[DPS]
DPSOn=2
DPSSize=20
DPSSkip=1
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Thousand Blades|99|Cond2
DPS2=Funeral Dirge|99|Cond2
DPS3=Quick Time|99|Cond2
DPS4=Spire of the Minstrels|99|Cond2
!DPS5=Song of Stone|99|Cond2
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=Vainglorious Shout|99|Cond3
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=Dance of Blades|99|Cond2
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=Deftdance Discipline|100|Cond6
DPS11=command:/pet qswarm|99|Cond7
!DPS12=Lyrical Prankster|99
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=Bladed Song|99
DPS14=Fierce Eye|99
DPS15=Cacophony|99|Mob
DPS16=Intimidation|99|Mash
DPS17=${InvSlot[Chest].Item.Name}|99
DPS18=Boastful Bellow|98|Cond4
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
DebuffAllOn=0[/CODE]

Please remove "Buffs5=Pulse of Lunanyn" in the Buffs-section ... it may cause interferences that way, not shure about it
In the header we have "TwistWhat=12" which will ask the bard to sing "Gem12=Pulse of Lunanyn" continuously whenever there are no mobs in camp and he has time to do it.
As well we have "TwistMed=12" which will ask the bard to sing "Gem12=Pulse of Lunanyn" continuously whenever he is medding.
Actually we have "MeleeTwistWhat= 12" in the melee-section. This will ask the bard to sing "Gem12=Pulse of Lunanyn" even when there is 1 or more mobs in camp, continuously whenever there is no duty to mezz mobs.

NB: "Vainglorious Shout" this song is a directional AE song. I am not keen enought to let my bard sing this song with KA. If there's a named and time enought, I launch it manually.
If you are in close quaters, you may end up with more mobs closeby, as you intended.
 
i also seriously suggest these changes to your melee section

[Melee]
MeleeTwistOn=1
MeleeTwistWhat= 1 2 3 4 12 <---this is what the bard will sing during combat this is the point of a bard during a fight, set songs that will boost your groups dps, fillin extra spots with dots.
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=1 <----only need this OR mq2melee, not both, both CAN cause some lag issues with the macro
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=125
StickHow=snaproll rear
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=0 <---see above
TargetSwitchingOn=1 <-----this is a good idea, specially if y ou get a mezz imune mob, you can switch the bard will mezz the other and come back to the immune one
 
I understood 'TargetSwitchingOn=1' has only effect on the ma. Am I wrong?
yes and no, my tank is my MA and i watch the bard when multis in camp. if i notice a mob is mez immune i tab to tnak and switch it to that mob to let bard mezz the rest. if you dont have it turned on, your guys will stick with first mob which means mezzing wont happen
 
ok made those changes and he still isnt mezzing anything in camp he mezzes when nothing is in camp so not sure if i should just worry about enchanter mezzer 2-4 mobs if they come on a pull or what
 
When starting Kissassist, are all the songs mentioned memmed in the appropriate slot?
Gem1=Aria of the Composer
Gem2=Thunderous Barrier
Gem3=Arcane Chorus
Gem4=Lyrin's Spiteful Lyric
Gem5=NULL
Gem6=NULL
Gem7=Lullaby of the Forlorn
Gem8=NULL
Gem9=Slumber of Kolain
Gem10=Wave of the Conductor
Gem11=NULL
Gem12=Pulse of Lunanyn
 
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