Tech - Defect in KA/MQ2 - Known? (1 Viewer)

[Dethryn]

Hello

There is a defect in Kiss Assist, when you enable autocamp upon death, your characters log off with /camp and sit at the character select screen
This is rather pointless because even in the character select screen, your characters body res timer is still ongoing, it is only when you close the game completely or at minimum leave the character select screen when only then would your timer for res stop runing. This is resulting in corpses being lost instead of secured upon death by the autocamp

Why is this, is this a known defect? Is there any fixes coming, or ways to fix it myself?
Please, and thanks

 

[Maskoi]

I am pretty sure your your corpse timer doesn't count down at char select.

 

[dannuic]

It does not count down at character select. You can even log in a different character on the same account and it won't count down.

 

[slowandstupid]

I've lost many corpses trying to figure out how to get my characters to reliably camp out. Sometimes when I'd switch to a new zone some characters would again not camp out upon death and would waste away their timer, and I'd eventually find them sitting at the character select screen. After experimenting, here's what I'm doing currently, and all characters are appropriately logging out completely and corpses are being preserved:

In your KissAssist_Character.ini

CampOnDeath=1

Enable the MQ2Autocamp plugin. Check the MQ2Autocamp.ini
For each character set the .ini to:

Enabled=1
WaitMinutes=15
Endmac=1
EndmacWhenDead=1
StartMacro=0
StartMacroName=

Ensure MQ2Rez plugin is loaded.
Set

/rez spawn  on

This will cause you to immediately zone back to your bind point.
With these settings I am reliably saving my corpse for rez later. See if that works for you and then tweak these settings to fit your play.

 

[Dethryn]

I just don't understand why then, because when my characters die, I always come back to them at the char select screen, but when i log back on - all the corpses are gone?
Is it possible the autocamp at death wasn't working properly because it was enabled in the player kissassist profile, but the plugin wasnt downloaded? I believe maybe this may have been my issue all along, cause now that i did download it it seems to work fine, however even before upon death shortly after a few minutes it would camp, and my other character would con the corpse and the timer would still be moving, which made no sense becuase no matter what the chars at the select screen, it doesnt get plainer then that - i just dont get why this was happening before, but its working ok now

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Also, newest version of KA/MQ2 seems to allow my characters to go to AFK mode where before this was never an issue, is there a way I can stop this from happening?

 

[eqgeek]

The afk thing is a part of the game, not KA. Under options, scroll down on the first tab and you will see the auto afk stuff. It was snuck in.

 

[slowandstupid]

I frequently found myself at the character select screen. I think I was sitting with the window to either Rez or go to bind until it timed out and when it timed out I went to bind and didn't camp out til after I had lost my corpse. Making the adjustments above fixed this.

 

[g_kinz]

THIS IS FALSE unless rules have changed with the newest patch. if you are logged in with ANY character the 3 hour corpse rot time will tick down.

It does not count down at character select. You can even log in a different character on the same account and it won't count down.

 

[dannuic]

So because there was confusion, I went and tested this. They have changed it from a while ago, but the rez timer DOES count down when you are at character select. It used to not count down -- I know because I tested it a while ago when I played before. That means that camp on death in KA doesn't matter -- it needs to be set up to camp to desktop on death.

Strange thing for them to change the behavior of. It must have been a side effect of some other change or some expansion release.

 

[eqgeek]

Is there a place to change the code from /quit to /exit? That force closes it without even camping.

 

[dannuic]

Is there a place to change the code from /quit to /exit? That force closes it without even camping.

It's not /quit right now, it's /camp. Change line 2082 from

/docommand /camp

to

/docommand /exit

or

/docommand /camp desktop

 

[Dethryn]

See, I knew it - I didn't understand how nobody else is realizing it, if you die, and are gone for a good 8 hours, and come back - You see all your guys off at the character select screen, and upon logging back on your characters corpses are all gone. No sense, even verified if the whole group wiped, the chars camped after 20 minutes, so it wasn't that they camped late, it was that the timer was still ticking - The autocamp should be corrected to do an /exit instead of /camp so that it actually leaves the game, and stops any timers

I noticed the players above are helping change that now instead of waiting for a future fix, but they don't mention which file needs the modification - line 2092 in what file? I can't find anything like autocamp or anything

Please be a bit more informative for the noobs like me :p
I also hope this fix will be made into future updates

 

[dulak]

The file they're talking about is the KissAssist.mac file itself.

 

[slowandstupid]

The changes I posted above results in camping and completely exiting the game. All of my corpses are preserved this way.

 

[dannuic]

The changes I posted above results in camping and completely exiting the game. All of my corpses are preserved this way.

The only problem with your solution is that if one character dies, they instantly respawn and /endmac. KA allows for rezzing, so it's usually nice to give 15 or so minutes in case you don't have a complete wipe. KA is really good about recovering from a single death if it happens in camp, so if you /endmac as soon as you die, you take away a (probably) valuable member of the AFK team. If you want to /endmac on death, I would also put kissassist in the macroname section and set it to restart after a rez. I'm pretty sure it will take arguments so you can set it up as kissassist <AssistName>.

 

[Inkie]

Has anyone tested if the timer runs down if you camped to the server select screen?

Assuming it doesn't, can we change the KA's next version to allow CampOnDeath=0,1,2,3 (no, character, server, desktop)?

 

[Maskoi]

This is something I will look at this weekend.

 

[Inkie]

I'm sure you could have written it as fast or faster but here's submission for testing:

Line 2700 (ish)

| ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
| SUB: Do I Camp
| ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Sub DoICamp
        /if (!${CampOnDeath}) /return
        /if (!${CampOnDeathTimer} && ${CampZone} != ${Zone.ID} && ${Me.Buff[Revival Sickness].ID}) {
            /echo I am dead and not where I am suppose to be. Time to camp out.
            /if (${CampOnDeath}=1) /docommand /camp
            /if (${CampOnDeath}=2) /docommand /camp server
	    /if (${CampOnDeath}=3) /docommand /camp desktop
	    /delay 40s
            /endmac
        }
    /return