Question - Calling a char to assist melee rather than autoassist...

[Tdata99]

I am 4 boxing a group(120 sk, 120 mage, 120 cleric, and 110 bard, and mercs).

I am using KA for mage, cleric and bard( I have it for sk but tend to operatre sk manually).

I am having an issue where I am clicking on mobs to check(con) them, but my bard is taking that as needing assistance
so attacks. My other two are casters so I have MeleeOn=0.

I want my bard to melee when I am in a fight, but when I am just considering mobs to decide on the fight or what, I don't want
him to start the fight after I have moved elsewhere(so he dies, usually).

Am I overlooking something?

Thanks.
Tdata99

 

[Sic]

I moved your kiss question to the kiss section


I also deleted your ini that had your characters name in it. Please take care not to post character names.

You can just paste your ini I'm a post in code blocks

 

[Tdata99]

Ok, thanks on that.

 

[Many_Whelps]

Are these mobs inside your camp radius? Is your AssistAt setting configured to be 99 or lower? Does the bard run out and melee the mobs or does it cast a damage song because it's already got a twist running?

If you're trying to consider mobs from a distance and they're outside the camp radius, the macro should not be attacking those mobs. If they're inside your camp radius and you're set to assist at 100%, the macro is going to consider it a valid target when the designated tank selects it as it's target.

 

[Tdata99]

The bard's assist level is 95, so I don't think that is the issue. I did lower it a little tho.

The Bard's Meleetwist was set to do the bard's AoE Dots first(which might be it). I changed them
to last.

The most recent example (prior to this change, that will happen next time I log in) I was up the outside of the mountain
in GMM along one of the paths. I targeted a mob at the bottom to see what it was. I then move on and the next thing I
know, it is on my ET window and the bard is almost dead(dead soon after).
I don't know if this is within camp range(I don't set up official camps, in GMM I tend to just wander around). Now I know
it could consider distance to MA as the camp radius, I don't know about that tho.

Other than the dot order, is there anything else I should check the next time I play?

Thanks for the responses!
Tdata99

 

[ctaylor22]

MeleeDistance. The Bard should not try and attack unless the mob is in MeleeDistance of the Bard. If the Mob is above AssistAt, then the bard should Not be attacking

 

[Tdata99]

I finally got back on and tried a few things.
It appears that it does seem to be the AoE dots.
To test, I grouped at zone in for GMM, got the macros going. I had MA target the nearby "A Clockwork Captain", nothing else,
just MA targetting it, which set bard to target it and eventually do a dot.

It appears that it switched from its normal twisting of songs(which has NO dots) to melee twisting of songs(which does).
I don't know why it decided to switch to the melee twisting.
It didn't switch right away either, I had them targetting the captain, I did not click attack and eventually he decided to switch.
I thought it wasn't supposed to switch until after combat had started.
And it appears to have continued in melee twist even after combat has ended.

[General]
KissAssistVer=12.002
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedStop=100
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=0|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
CorpseRecoveryOn=0
EQBCOn=0
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Bard|110|GOLD
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=0
ScatterOn=0
LOSBeforeCombat=0
TwistOn=1
TwistMed=6
TwistWhat=5 6 10 11
XTSlot=1
[SpellS]
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
CastingInterruptOn=1
CheckStuckGem=1

Gem1=Hoshkar's Chant of Disease
Gem2=Nexona's Chant of Poison
Gem3=Qunard's Chant of Flame
Gem4=Ekron's Chant of Frost
Gem5=Second Psalm of Veeshan
Gem6=Chorus of Xigam
Gem7=Aria of Begalru
Gem8=War March of Dekloaz
Gem9=Fjilnauk's Spiteful Lyric
Gem10=Arcane Melody
Gem11=Jembel's Lively Crescendo
Gem12=Wave of Somnolence
Gem13=Slumber of Jembel

[Buffs]
BuffsOn=0
BuffsSize=3
Buffs1=Aria of Begalru|Aura
Buffs2=Jembel's Lively Crescendo
Buffs3=Selo's Sonata|Cond16


RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL

[Melee]
AssistAt=94
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=0
MeleeTwistOn=1
MeleeTwistWhat=5 6 7 8 9 10 1 2 3 4
PetTauntOverride=0
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=5
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL

[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSize=16
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Funeral Dirge|99|Cond8
DPS2=Quick Time|99|Cond8
DPS3=Spire of the Minstrels|99|Cond8
DPS4=Flurry of Notes|99|Cond8
DPS5=Frenzied Kicks|99|Cond8
DPS6=Song of Stone|99|Cond8
DPS7=Vainglorious Shout|99|Cond8
DPS8=Dance of Blades|99|Cond8
DPS9=command:/pet qswarm|99|Cond13
DPS10=Lyrical Prankster|99
DPS11=Bladed Song|99
DPS12=Fierce Eye|99|Cond9
DPS13=Cacophony|99|Mob
DPS14=Intimidation|99|Mash
DPS15=Snowbound Loremaster Breastplate|99|Cond1

DebuffAllOn=0
DPS16=NULL

[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealInterval=0
AutoRezOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
RezMeLast=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=2
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL

[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[Mez]
MezOn=1
MezRadius=40
MezMinLevel=95
MezMaxLevel=113
MezStopHPs=80
MezSpell=Slumber of Jembel
MezDebuffOnResist=0
MezDebuffSpell=Your Debuff Spell
MezAESpell=Wave of Somnolence|0
[Burn]
BurnAllNamed=0
UseTribute=0
BurnSize=5
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL

[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
PullTwistOn=0
PullOnReturn=0
[PullAdvanced]
PullLocsOn=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[KConditions]
ConOn=0
CondSize=16
Cond1=Cond1=${Target.Named} && !${Me.Song[${Spell[Phrygian Arpeggio].RankName}].ID}
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE
Cond6=TRUE
Cond7=TRUE
Cond8=${Target.Named}
Cond9=!${Me.Song[Fierce Eye].ID}
Cond10=TRUE
Cond11=TRUE
Cond12=TRUE
Cond13=${SpawnCount[${Me.Name}'s pet]} > 0
Cond14=TRUE
Cond15=TRUE
Cond16=!${Me.Buff[Selo's Accelerato].ID} && !${Me.Buff[Selo's Accelerando].ID}

[KissError]
LastCMD:=/endmacro
ErrorDateTime:=04/26/2023 20:15:22
ErrorMsg:=NULL
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=4908467
BuildDate:=20230426
CurrentUI:=Default

Thanks in advance!

Tdata99

 

[ctaylor22]

Which message from the bard are you getting? There should be a message similar to this "== Starting melee twist #" when the bard starts twisting.

 

[Tdata99]

After I started the macros, it said "Starting normal twist 3"
It then sat there for a bit with MA targeting the mob, which caused the bard to go ahead and target it.

Now here I am just standing there, with mob targeted and bard playing his normal ooc songs.(This was 30+ seconds)
Then, for some reason, the mob is attacking, so I go ahead and attack it back.

I check the bard's MQ window, and it doesn't seem to be starting melee twist till after the fight is going. This made me check something else,
cause with this testing it didn't seem to be attacking bard first, it seemed to be going toward mage first.

Now could the buff "Volcanic Veil" be the cause? Mage is buffing his pet with it. It says flames will frequently lash out at "attacking creatures".
Could it be targeted or random creatures, rather than attacking creatures?

If I eventually want to try boxing higher level zones, I would like to figure this out.

Thanks!
Tdata99

 

[manydills]

Changing your MeleeTwistOn setting to MeleeTwistOn=2 will start your combat twist when there are mobs in the xtar window, rather than when "you're in combat". I've found it a little more reliable.

 

[Tdata99]

I changed my MeleeTwistOn setting to 2. I am seriously thinking the problem is with the mage's spell Volcanic Veil lashing out at
the target, even when not in combat.

I will probably have to consider when to have it cast this buff.

 

[ctaylor22]

I have been making some changes to the Bard Singing code. Keep an eye out the the update. @Tdata99 if you want to do some testing I can drop you a copy of the updated macro, PM me if you want to test.

 

[Shadow]

I have been making some changes to the Bard Singing code. Keep an eye out the the update. @Tdata99 if you want to do some testing I can drop you a copy of the updated macro, PM me if you want to test.

Should drop Twist altogether and switch to Medley, IMHO.

 

[LamahHerder]

Should drop Twist altogether and switch to Medley, IMHO.

Agreed, I was going to go thru implement but if theres an update coming ill wait for that