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Question - Best heroic stat for a warrior
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i main 2 wars on our adventures and to be frank i went hsta to 4k+ first than hagi now with tob having the extra augs out now to start taking some away from sta . but ultimately imo it comes down to personal preference as a warrior. knights are 110% hdex first and foremost.
For grouping DEX is by far the best stat for a warrior that only groups, as it affects your riposte and parry at approximately the same rate that agility affects your dodge & AC.
For raiding, on the other hand, nothing beats hSTA until you know for a fact that you can 2hand tank all of the content. hSTA gives you melee shielding, which allows you to tank WAY bigger hits than the warriors that go dex, leading to more 2hander uptime, which is better than DW. If you ever have to equip a shield, get a better disc rotation or find new healers (and obviously go hSTA if you aren't).
Plus, in raids, mobs have 100% strikethrough, so dex & agi don't really offer anything for survivability. HP is the only stat that warriors can use to protect against magic damage as well (unless you want to go hWIS/hINT... which could be a good meme).
For raiding, on the other hand, nothing beats hSTA until you know for a fact that you can 2hand tank all of the content. hSTA gives you melee shielding, which allows you to tank WAY bigger hits than the warriors that go dex, leading to more 2hander uptime, which is better than DW. If you ever have to equip a shield, get a better disc rotation or find new healers (and obviously go hSTA if you aren't).
Plus, in raids, mobs have 100% strikethrough, so dex & agi don't really offer anything for survivability. HP is the only stat that warriors can use to protect against magic damage as well (unless you want to go hWIS/hINT... which could be a good meme).
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HDex for mucho damage, HAgi for mucho avoidance (I think thats the word I mean to use), HSta for mucho hp's. All of that is relative of course. Deminished returns as you near the CAP, etc. From there, its a matter of what you prioritize. Since I play, hah, funny, since I use a SK, I've got all HDex and the rest I don't really care about.
Even allot of raid warriors are stacking dex these days. Some guilds are moving more towards having all dps groups regardless if your a tank class or not. If they have the bards.
The 4k diminishing returns is in question imo. A couple of my dps toons had over 5k hdex, when sorting out different methods to spread some heroics stats around they had around 4500 hdex their dps was clearly lower. I do not remember off hand how much exactly, but it was noticeable through the parse.
The 4k diminishing returns is in question imo. A couple of my dps toons had over 5k hdex, when sorting out different methods to spread some heroics stats around they had around 4500 hdex their dps was clearly lower. I do not remember off hand how much exactly, but it was noticeable through the parse.
I feel like this is one that will be debated as nauseum….
The diminishing returns on warriors due to the crit rates being maxed.
On all melee except warrior I do hdex. On warriors I just get the balanced anymore. Some of each is the 3. So far he’s ok and able to tank raid targets ok.
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stats don't matter in the modern game. get gear from current xpac and you'll have lots of every stat. You can stack hAgi, but you'll never be the nimble dodging warrior that can't get hit. You can stack hSta but you'll never amass enough HP to make monster hits not matter. You can stack hDex, but you'll never be the riposting beast you think. The game is so bland and "idiot proof" that none of it makes big differences one way or the other.
Since it isn't in the progression section it can/should be assumed live. If someone is playing something other than "what the game is now" be it emu, or tlp 2 electric boogaloo it is on them to let folks know. Otherwise no one would ever be able to answer a question.
I mostly agree, mostly. Hdex does make a big different in DPS - but in current game, with current gear/AUGS (meaning you're not rocking a mix of cov, to, LS, nos, tob gear and type 5s because you're behind/lazy) you're going to be sitting really nicely with just a out anything that isn't #emptyslot
If you are playing on a live server and are level 110+ then go hDex and use 1h+1h.
Once you hit 4k hDex = 100% crit then start shifting.
Using 1h+1h resulted in a significant boost to DPS. Effect to damage taken was marginal. The biggest effect was making sure to mash defensive discs and abilities.
Our MT warrior did several small parsers looking at hDex, hAgi, hStam vs 1h+shield, 1h+1h, and 2h
Data: is from 2023. Parsing in 10 min increments against CoV raid level dragon. Only showing 'best' of each type of run.
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hDex using 1h+1h - Damage Taken : 90k vs DPS : 215K
hAgi using 1h+1h - Damage Taken : 96k vs DPS : 195K
hSta using 1h+1h - Damage Taken : 98k vs DPS 189K
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hDex using 1h+shield - Damage Taken : 85k vs DPS : 120K
hAgi using 1h+shield - Damage Taken : 89k vs DPS: 109K
hSta using 1h+shield - Damage Taken : 98k vs DPS: 106K
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All the gear is the same. The MT swapped all the heroic type 5 augs for the different conditions.
Once you hit 4k hDex = 100% crit then start shifting.
Using 1h+1h resulted in a significant boost to DPS. Effect to damage taken was marginal. The biggest effect was making sure to mash defensive discs and abilities.
Our MT warrior did several small parsers looking at hDex, hAgi, hStam vs 1h+shield, 1h+1h, and 2h
Data: is from 2023. Parsing in 10 min increments against CoV raid level dragon. Only showing 'best' of each type of run.
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hDex using 1h+1h - Damage Taken : 90k vs DPS : 215K
hAgi using 1h+1h - Damage Taken : 96k vs DPS : 195K
hSta using 1h+1h - Damage Taken : 98k vs DPS 189K
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hDex using 1h+shield - Damage Taken : 85k vs DPS : 120K
hAgi using 1h+shield - Damage Taken : 89k vs DPS: 109K
hSta using 1h+shield - Damage Taken : 98k vs DPS: 106K
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All the gear is the same. The MT swapped all the heroic type 5 augs for the different conditions.
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If your group has no problem keeping your War alive I'd go with hDex like so many others here have recommended. But if the War is a bit on the squishy side I'd balance AGI and STA to make the character a bit more stout. Most of the raiding Wars I know load up on Dex to about 4400 and then go STA because AGI isn't always so useful on raid mobs.
Where the 2h stats at? :P
The main reason I recommend hSTA for ALL tanks is to increase 2h uptime. After Rage of Rallos Zek ends, you don't need more aggro from DW. And as long as you can survive until your next heal, there is no reason to not use a 2h.
The only thing shields are good for is sending a screenshot of you /destroying it because the true shield for a warrior is a 2nd 1hander.
The biggest difference is how you play & hitting your discs correctly. I've seen BIS tanks get outparsed by group geared tanks simply because of their knowledge of their character.
Group content. 100% if you swing a weapon = HDex. All others HSta.
Raid content. Warriors, HAgi to 4k and rest to HDex . All others HSta.
The reason people say HStam and why I used it last expansion was that if you mouse over the Stats tab in your inventory window. HStam filled up the things I didn’t have maxed out. Plus it affects alot more stuff than HAgi and HDex.
I’ve seen some warriors fully maxed out on Heroic mods by doing all Balanced Augs. I’d take some time to figure out what your toon needs from that Stat tab.
Raid content. Warriors, HAgi to 4k and rest to HDex . All others HSta.
The reason people say HStam and why I used it last expansion was that if you mouse over the Stats tab in your inventory window. HStam filled up the things I didn’t have maxed out. Plus it affects alot more stuff than HAgi and HDex.
I’ve seen some warriors fully maxed out on Heroic mods by doing all Balanced Augs. I’d take some time to figure out what your toon needs from that Stat tab.
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If you raid, heroic stamina.
If you don't raid, then it really doesn't matter for warriors.
Heroic agility is useless on raids. It's a magelo stat pad for every tank, and shows you don't know the class very well.
If you don't raid, then it really doesn't matter for warriors.
Heroic agility is useless on raids. It's a magelo stat pad for every tank, and shows you don't know the class very well.
hDex using 2h was 115k damage taken and 205k DPS.
hDex using 1h+1h was 90k damage taken and 215k DPS.
We didn't do 2h with hAgi or hStam because it was less DPS than dual wield.
As you said, the biggest thing is knowing what to push, and when.
This is the balance I show for most warriors when I talk with them. You will get to 4k AGI easily with just base augs(7s and 18,19) and trophies, then dump all the rest into DEX. . This lets you play with your type 5s if you are not inclined to want all Dex.
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It is actually a increase from 2 years ago~