Question - BER Alliance

[Saffron]

Hi Everyone,

Noob question here. Is there a way to trigger BER alliance with 2 BER? I have been reading 3. I read the same about SK but I have no trouble getting it to fire with 2. I mained an SK for years but BER are new and shiny so I don't know what I am doing yet. Seems odd to me that 2 for SK is easy but impossible for BER. Is that true? I can alt tab and do 2 SK no problem. Seems with tools we can do better?

 

[Aipoc76]

takes 2 different berserkers other than the caster to proc the alliance.

Shadow Knight: Requires 4 lifetaps to trigger.
Berserker: Requires 10 procs from other berserkers.

 

[Multichar]

For a group then it would be best to either go with 1 berserker or 3 then right? If 2 can't do alliance, and you're losing out on buffs/utility from another class in order to fit the 2nd one in anyway you might as well allocate a 3rd slot to a berserker too so you can use alliance? Do you notice a big DPS difference with alliance to the degree it's worth a group having 3 in modern content?

 

[Mikey02]

Even with 3 zerkers, I rarely see alliance fire off before the buff fades.

 

[Saffron]

For a group then it would be best to either go with 1 berserker or 3 then right? If 2 can't do alliance, and you're losing out on buffs/utility from another class in order to fit the 2nd one in anyway you might as well allocate a 3rd slot to a berserker too so you can use alliance? Do you notice a big DPS difference with alliance to the degree it's worth a group having 3 in modern content?

I just made my second BER recently and they just hit 100 tonight. Even with crap gear and being 10 levels behind I am noticing some decent dps. Better than some other classes I have tried. IMO if you dont need another tank or healer why not. Too bad on alliance. Seems to be more for raids which sucks. That or SK alliance will be nerfed soon.

 

[ChatWithThisName]

BER alliance can be triggered with 2 berzerkers. It requires the assistance of a bard iirc. With respect to BerZerker alliance, they are pretty incredible source of DPS and in most situations you'll find that the berzerker's DPS minus the Alliance is typically more than enough for most encounters to be completely obliterated. Alliance dmg is best left to named encounters, or raid encounters. Even then, when a berzerker encounters a named and there are enough berzerker's to trigger an alliance it's entirely likely that you'll absolutely demolish the named mob even without the use of alliance due to their sheer DPS output. Personally my Zerker can get as high as 900k DPS by himself. Two more berzerkers at that output and you're rocking 2.7m DPS and most things will fall in short order.

So if alliance is your desire despite this information, make 3, or make 2 and have your crowd control a bard. and fill your third DPS slot with another melee class like a rog so that your bards aura also compliments them as well. Rog Synergy also adds a proc for other melee toons which does compliment the berzerker as well.

3 berzerkers at the same time is a sight to see for sure. I currently have a customer that told me they've made something like 23 berzerkers. Now while I can't imagine I've ever had a need for that many, I imagine the result is absolutely destructive to watch.

 

[dealings]

adps is vital
ive often wondered for those that boast using 4 zerkers if sticking to 2 AND 1 bard AND 1 bst would yield better more consistent results
alternatively 3 zerks and your choice of bard or bst (still on the fence on who allows for more alliance triggers)
1 tank 1 healer (i prefer shm) 2 to 3 zerks plus 1 to 2 adps is my ideal set up
in the end they all get some lovin and there are times when u may need a cleric 2 healers (shm cler) there is also times when u may need cc
giants dont mez and next expansion seems like its gonna be full of em, probably wont split either.....

 

[Saffron]

So I finished leveling up my new BER to 110 and even with only auto grant AA and MQ2BerZerker I can see a pretty big difference. The only time it would be useful would be TBL nameds. Everything else dies in about 3 to 9 sec on average it seems so alliance would never fire anyway. After more augs and a couple more T3 bits I figure things will be going splat. We will see how tough things are in the new xpac.