I was never really sold on the whole bard is awesome bit but I have one in the group anyway because everyone says I need it! And hey run fast plus invis/ivu did not suck. I will admit I am not great at running him but he ran I think he does ok with kissassist. Annoyed at his less than steller DPS I decided to replace him for a The Spirit fades group with a rogue. Well you cannot explain the result without using the word cluster. The rogue was obstensively a butt ton more DPS than the bard but we wiped. And I don't mean barely missed it, I mean missed it by a mile. I could not figure out a logical reason for it but decided to put the bard back in. This is where I was sold. Even though he was not doing that much DPS, what he adds to the DPS of the group is not to be underestimated. Adding the rogue back resulted in a solid win. That right there was the turning point for me. Now, I cannot even think of building a group without a bard in it.