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duck_72 said:
Hi guys,

Having a similar problem to LV above, to illustrate what my problem is, when I try the autologin feature, it tries to load me up using my live copy of EQ, instead of the beta copy of EQ. I suppose my question is, how do I get MQ2 to work for the beta version of EQ...does that make sense?
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Hey guys... Beta MQ2 is only updated when the folks over at MQ2 main actually update it. RG isn't in a position to update it on their own.

The errors that you're both seeing is due to the compile being out of date relative to the .exe from DPG. 99.9% of the time (100%?) a new MQ2 compile is necessary when a new .exe is pushed to us. Right now the latest Beta compile I'm seeing is from 15 Oct.
 
Sum1 said:
Hey guys... Beta MQ2 is only updated when the folks over at MQ2 main actually update it. RG isn't in a position to update it on their own.

The errors that you're both seeing is due to the compile being out of date relative to the .exe from DPG. 99.9% of the time (100%?) a new MQ2 compile is necessary when a new .exe is pushed to us. Right now the latest Beta compile I'm seeing is from 15 Oct.
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which means mq2 beta is not working till you see a up to date date :)
 
B_I_G__D_A_D_D_Y said:
So if I was Darkpaw and I was going to introduce new anti-cheat code then I'd be very likely to implement it during a Beta cycle.
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Let's unpack that a bit.

Beta is DPG's way to finalize (and in a lot of ways, not only finalize but DEVELOP) a product they're selling to make money.

Some of the code changes made can make things a bit unstable at times, but it's mostly good.

Instability with the expansion, rumors of instability, OR (most dangerously) anti-cheat code rollouts/testing are likely to erode or reduce expansion purchases.

Lower than expected expansion purchases mean lower than expected revenue, which means angry shareholders/execs.

Conclusion: Beta is all about putting the finishing touches on a turd so that DPG can make money. They aren't going to suddenly "roll out/test anti-cheat code" that might destabilize or cause broader issues, potentially putting the on-time expansion release at risk.
 
Sum1 said:
Conclusion: Beta is all about putting the finishing touches on a turd so that DPG can make money. They aren't going to suddenly "roll out/test anti-cheat code" that might destabilize or cause broader issues, potentially putting the on-time expansion release at risk.
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I sincerely hope they see it the same way you do. But evidence of 64-bit code in the Beta download indicates to me they *may* have a willingness to experiment during the Beta cycle.
 
B_I_G__D_A_D_D_Y said:
I sincerely hope they see it the same way you do. But evidence of 64-bit code in the Beta download indicates to me they *may* have a willingness to experiment during the Beta cycle.
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It's not actually being used, so the fact that it's in the download has a lot of other explanations, too.
 
Sum1 said:
Hey guys... Beta MQ2 is only updated when the folks over at MQ2 main actually update it. RG isn't in a position to update it on their own.

The errors that you're both seeing is due to the compile being out of date relative to the .exe from DPG. 99.9% of the time (100%?) a new MQ2 compile is necessary when a new .exe is pushed to us. Right now the latest Beta compile I'm seeing is from 15 Oct.
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I am sure that I am missing it some place, but I was wondering when the MQ2 Launcher will be available for use? Just curious since I was logged in after the last patch but it appears to be down again. Thanks for all that you guys do for us and I look forward to getting back in game and start getting some of this bonus xp going on right now. Have a blessed day. - Medicman
 
Medicman said:
I am sure that I am missing it some place, but I was wondering when the MQ2 Launcher will be available for use? Just curious since I was logged in after the last patch but it appears to be down again. Thanks for all that you guys do for us and I look forward to getting back in game and start getting some of this bonus xp going on right now. Have a blessed day. - Medicman
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well, I believe you are asking about MQ2 Live in this question in particular.

you can see in > this post < that dbg patched eq last night, so everything has to be rebuilt. MQ Next is already up for Live, and VV mq2 legacy will need a rebuild once mq2 legacy is updated.

As far as beta goes, that depends on the days that mule is able to get beta out and updated. it is a lot of work doing it every day especially on days they make a lot of changes. here's mule yesterday about making an effort to do his best to get it out on friday the 22nd

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Sic said:
well, I believe you are asking about MQ2 Live in this question in particular.

you can see in > this post < that dbg patched eq last night, so everything has to be rebuilt. MQ Next is already up for Live, and VV mq2 legacy will need a rebuild once mq2 legacy is updated.

As far as beta goes, that depends on the days that mule is able to get beta out and updated. it is a lot of work doing it every day especially on days they make a lot of changes. here's mule yesterday about making an effort to do his best to get it out on friday the 22nd

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Thanks for the update. Peace Out!!!
 
I know this is a PITA because of daily updates, but will there be one for today (28th)? Blurb is showing out of date currently. I see last update was 12'ish am... so its out of date.
 
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When a RG update is done before the daily EQ update what can I do to ensure I am not blocked out by having non-syncing time stamp?
 
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lordvegga said:
I know this is a PITA because of daily updates, but will there be one for today (28th)? Blurb is showing out of date currently. I see last update was 12'ish am... so its out of date.
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Mule tweeted a few minutes ago that he didn't get beta done today (thusly RG can't build mq2 for beta)

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It is what it is, I’m trying to get to it every single day but sometimes it’s going to be difficult to get it out. This is one of those days.
 
turnittotheright said:
do CWTN plugins not work on beta servers? the launcher doesn't seem to want to update them.
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they are included for beta just like for test server, there is no plugin tab to download them on - they are already there.
having said that, beta wasn't built since 10/27 and today is the 31st
 
ahh wasnt aware. thats mighty nice that are included. sad that beta hasnt been built. i finally had some time and wanted to get experience on some of the new missions
 
As of right now they haven't added any new AA's / Discs / Spells that I'm aware of. So while yes you could potentially do any new stuff they've actually included, there haven't really been any changes to the characters themselves that I'm aware of.
I keep a git of the spells_us.txt file and track changes so I know when it's time to update the plugins to reflect those changes. But there's been nothing to change at this time.
 
ChatWithThisName said:
As of right now they haven't added any new AA's / Discs / Spells that I'm aware of. So while yes you could potentially do any new stuff they've actually included, there haven't really been any changes to the characters themselves that I'm aware of.
I keep a git of the spells_us.txt file and track changes so I know when it's time to update the plugins to reflect those changes. But there's been nothing to change at this time.
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yeah mainly i was just looking to go through the motions with my guys as they are anyways. I want to get a feel for the missions and such so im able to brun through the content asap
 
Thank you Sic. I really like to have all my visibility functions, like maps, HUD, etc... on these Dev raids. Flying blind is no bueno.
 
Any chance this will be updated in the next six hours? The updates seem to be hit or miss with the timing of Beta updates. I typically only log into Beta for raid purposes, and having both Beta and RG date stamps match has been rare for me.

Is there a way for me to bypass the Beta updates and load Beta with whatever the current RG date stamp is? I don't want to keep pestering you guys with this update question because I am sure it's low priority.
 
lordvegga said:
Any chance this will be updated in the next six hours? The updates seem to be hit or miss with the timing of Beta updates. I typically only log into Beta for raid purposes, and having both Beta and RG date stamps match has been rare for me.

Is there a way for me to bypass the Beta updates and load Beta with whatever the current RG date stamp is? I don't want to keep pestering you guys with this update question because I am sure it's low priority.
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unfortunately they re-build beta daily. so that requires mq2mule to RE any/all beta changes every time, and then once he has completed, then RG is able to build mq2 for beta. it isn't just a matter of rebuilding with existing stuff - it is similar to the live monthly patches where stuff has to be worked on before it can be built.

you can > click here < to get notified when MQ2 for beta is built and ready to go if that is helpful for you
 
We had this same scenario last year during beta. Some times we could get 1-2 days a week of MQ2 on beta, other times it's just nothing. Kinda kills my desire to do beta content (since I don't have a beta group) and not only test out ToL features but also nav meshes and other things like class-specific plugins and macros. Last year I was able to put a few waypoints down in various areas so I could get going on progression a little easier. I had some map points down before Good/Brewall were able to release their map updates as well, so I just merged their changes.
 
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