ULTIMATE Bard Kiting

[Jumjum5]

After doing a lot of searching on the website and in game I have found prolly the best exp/risk ratio in the game for bards 12-70 and all ya aa. It was posted on the website as a good spot for kiting but don't think many saw the benifits of the instanced zone.

First off you get the instanced The Forgotten Halls. To get this instance you go to Nedaria's Landing. Then head to the second dock and hail Eldros Danmor and tell him "interested in visiting". Once you get the mission and run into the caves hail the npc Nideno Eliagy then tell her "Forgotten Halls". Then click the rock behind her to zone into The Forgotten Halls.

Now that you are in the instanced zone you will notice that nothing is kos to you. Just warp to -353.97, 266.96, -12.85 and turn you circle on 50 (I have a speed plugin, so if you don't have one you might want to bring some sow potions or have aa run). Just turn on target macro, circle, twist and your all set.

I have ran this for a few days and as far as I can tell the expidition has no limited timer and it also has repops in the zone,so SAY HELLO TO UNLIMITED EXP!!! The mobs have hit me a few times, but it was from mostly lag because dial up sucks.

Also this is great for PLing others because they will not get attacked by the mobs if the bard dies. Unlike in vxed where my alts would die everytime the bard got owned =P.

One more thing for me to mention. I have had "an earthen reject" run away on me once or twice and basicly wasted my time on killing him, so I am gona put in my macro to not kite that mob. Will post it when I get it working.
Hope this helps yall and vote for me on July poll

P.S.
If you guys have any questions or any other input that will improve this please post.

 

[elmokev]

This is good exp even up to 70??

 

[moorthon]

This is good exp even up to 70??

Instanced Zones are based off the level(s) of the character(s) that create the mission.

 

[Jumjum5]

YES this will work from 12 (cause you get your dd song) all the way to 70 because this instanced zone is based on the lowest lvl member in your group, but can also be gotten by a single person.

 

[Jumjum5]

Also I don't think these mobs hit as hard as they do in vxed. I am running my 23 bard in there atm and he only has 570hp unbuffed and I only get hit for maybe 15 points max. So they should hit way less than in vxed at lvl 70 and such. I don't even have a full suit of armor with my bard and what armor he does have sucks so this can be done by pretty much any armor equiped bard that can run at least as fast as run1 =P

 

[Cybris]

is it an indoor zone?

 

[Jumjum5]

Doh forgot to check that.

NO its not an indoor zone. YOU CAN HAVE SELOS YAY!!!

 

[Cybris]

awsome!!!

 

[Jumjum5]

Has any lvl 60s bard tried this yet? Tone seems to be getting it and having the mobs be like lvl 20s. Anybody else having this problem? Not sure if it is cause he has a low lvl in his group or not.

 

[Joman]

will have a bash 2morow eve with it on my bard (70) and see how it goes

 

[Tone]

This has already been posted serveral times through the madrack's necro exp mac. Forgotten Halls and Vxed are the wins :P

 

[CharlieMurpheyPHD]

Do you need to be facing a certain direction to get the circle to run properly? In vxed I recall there being a note to make sure you face due east. And did you post the macro (mentioned in the inital post) somewhere else or can I be set with putting the mob's name into the regular target macro as one to avoid? i.e. is that the mobs name exactly. Thanks !!!

Chuck

 

[Jumjum5]

Do you need to be facing a certain direction to get the circle to run properly? In vxed I recall there being a note to make sure you face due east. And did you post the macro (mentioned in the inital post) somewhere else or can I be set with putting the mob's name into the regular target macro as one to avoid? i.e. is that the mobs name exactly. Thanks !!!

Chuck

You will need to face north for it to run /circle on 50 w/o hitting anything.

Yes that is the exact name of the mob, but I haven't put into my macro yet. It looks like that mob was bugged or something because it hasn't ran again yet.

I'm useing the Target macro from souls compile btw

 

[cbsro]

I used forgotten halls to pl my alts to 60 (bard was already 70) so they could go to vxed. Exp sucks compared to vxed iirc... but that could be because it was lower level mobs for the bard on aa, and the alts were on regular exp...

 

[doctabooboo]

What macro are you running out of curiousity? I would like to get the same one. Thank you.

Doc

 

[darkeros]

I've tested the exp in Forgotten Halls and it is comparable to HoH exp at higher levels.

It is a very good zone to get your aa's up until you can handle vxed.

 

[Jumjum5]

What macro are you running out of curiousity? I would like to get the same one. Thank you.

Doc

This macro made for www.Redguides.com
| Don't steal it or we'll punch your fase!
#turbo  
#event camp "personingroup tells the group, 'lets roll'  
#event dzadd "personyouwanttoadd tells you, 'add me'  
#event invite "#*#invites you to join#*#"  
#Event Zoned "#*#You have entered#*#"  
  
  
Sub Main  
  
    
:loopstart 
/doevents  
/call GMcheck  
/if (${Target.Level}>67) /tar npc next 
/if (${Target.Distance}>220) /keypress esc  
/if (${Target.ID}==FALSE) /tar NPC radius 50  
/delay 10  
/goto :loopstart  
/return  
  
 Sub GMcheck  
 /if (${Spawn[gm].ID}) {  
 /echo Gm detected  
 /beep 
 /beep 
 /beep  
 /keypress 9 
 /endmac 
 /unload 
 /q  
 }  
 /return  
  
 Sub event_camp  
 /sit  
 /camp desk  
 /return  
  
 sub event_zoned  
 /delay 5s  
 /sit  
 /camp desk  
 /endmac 
 /return  

 sub event_dzadd 
 /dzadd personyouwanttoadd 
 /return 

 sub event_invite  
 /invite  
 /return

 

[Jumjum5]

Here is a Target macro that Irinidi modified for the forgotten halls. I changed the locs and circle but he gets the credit for giving me such great info :p

This will auto twist your songs (you have to change them in the macro to suit you), warp you to the spot, circle on 21 and kite. If you get to 30% it will succor you and play heal song then when you are healed it will warp you back and start kiting again.

Im not good a macros and looking into others to see if I can get it to get a new mission once your booted (it has like a 5 or 6 hour timer from what I have learned). Also gona try to make it where it will go back and loot your corpse if you die. AND so without further ado here is the macro!!!

This macro made for www.Redguides.com
| Don't steal it or we'll punch your fase!
#turbo  
#event camp "personingroup tells the group, 'lets roll'  
#event dzadd "personyouwanttoadd tells you, 'add me'  
#event invite "#*#invites you to join#*#"  
#Event Zoned "#*#You have entered Guild Lobby#*#"  
  
  
Sub Main  
:begin  
/face heading 270
/delay 2s
/warp loc -573.50 162.80 2.15
/circle on 21
/keypress forward hold
/twist 1 7 7 7
    
:loopstart 
/doevents  
/call GMcheck  
/if (${Target.Level}>67) /tar npc next 
/if (${Target.Distance}>220) /keypress esc  
/if (${Target.ID}==FALSE) /tar NPC radius 220 rat
/if (${Me.PctHPs}<=30) /call succor
/delay 10  
/goto :loopstart  
/return  

Sub succor

/warp loc 245 -33 0
/circle off
/twist 1
/delay 60
:loopheal
/if (${Me.PctHPs}>80) {
/face heading 270
/warp loc -573.50 162.80 2.15
/circle on 21
/keypress forward hold
/twist 1 7 7 7
/return
}
/delay 60
/goto :loopheal
/return

  
 Sub GMcheck  
 /if (${Spawn[gm].ID}) {  
 /echo Gm detected  
 /beep 
 /beep 
 /beep  
 /keypress 9 
 /endmac 
 /unload 
 /q  
 }  
 /return  
  
 Sub event_camp  
 /sit  
 /camp desk  
 /return  
  
 sub event_zoned  
 /delay 5s  
 /sit  
 /camp desk  
 /endmac 
 /return  

 sub event_dzadd 
 /dzadd personyouwanttoadd 
 /return 

 sub event_invite

 

[Cmnjn]

Very nice idea, will have to try it for the privacy since servers are much more crowded again.

Have 1 question, since I'm not sure...in the Sub GMcheck.

/keypress 9

what do you have "9" set to do?

Thanks

 

[lance173]

Have 1 question, since I'm not sure...in the Sub GMcheck.
Quote:

/keypress 9

I believe its set to fade in this but someone please correct me if im wrong

 

[Zepher]

I thought /keypress 9 was set for someone using /instacamp but I never got all the details on it.

Also can you add people to your group like Vxed? In other words start the mission with a lvl 70 to create the zone with high level creatures and then add a level 65 or so to the group for better xp?

Zepher

 

[Jumjum5]

I thought /keypress 9 was set for someone using /instacamp but I never got all the details on it.

Also can you add people to your group like Vxed? In other words start the mission with a lvl 70 to create the zone with high level creatures and then add a level 65 or so to the group for better xp?

Zepher

I'm pretty sure that the /keypress 9 is instantcamp. I'm also pretty sure that you can get the mission with at 70 and then invite at 65 so they get better exp. I will try it when I get the chance then get back to yall about it

 

[Riddlerr]

lmfao. well i was doing some don's and decided to take my friends bard over to go test this during my downtime between don missions well i got an expedition. and everything was lvl 10... lol this was from a level 70 bard getting the expedition. well needless to say i left. getting a new one right now. gonna see if that was just a fluke.

 

[Jumjum5]

Did you hail the chick and say "Forgotten Halls" to her after you got the expidition from the guy at the docks?

 

[Riddlerr]

yeah. some reason everything was level 10, i dropped that exep. and got another and everything was lvl 64ish. so must of been a bug.

i kill one mob to see the exp. it was under 2% aa at lvl 70, also. the spot that you have yourself circling at. gets alot of cannot see you target crap because of that pillar. this is infact a good spot. if you cannot do vxed yet. but vxed by far is the best if you can handle it. imo atleast. this is still going to be the best pl spot though. unlimited time. very very low risk of death. and great due to lvl specific zone... very good job... i am in the middle of don, but i will post a macro that i modded' for this. i just want to test before i post. give me a few hours.

 

[kait]

Yeah, the pillar is a pain. Im gonna try and experiment with the rooms to see if i can find a better spot. There is another room with a bunch of the rats in it that im goona try. Where is the zone out to this btw. /warp succor is not safe by the way unless you have fade because the succor spot isnt far enough away the mobs just run to the zone in and kill you. Im doing this for my atm 15 bard and 15 cleric because I have the cleric on my druids account so I cant pl them.

 

[lance173]

I had a question as a newb to bards (im PLing one right now hes up to 18) should you just twist your level 12 DD spell all the way through level 30 til you get the first single target DoT or should you use some of the AE dots in between?

 

[kait]

I had a question as a newb to bards (im PLing one right now hes up to 18) should you just twist your level 12 DD spell all the way through level 30 til you get the first single target DoT or should you use some of the AE dots in between?

You cant use AoE dots while kiting anymore.

 

[kait]

Here is a post by redbot from a previous thread. Search is your friend.

You can start running it as low as level 12. Put your run song in the #2 slot and Boastful Bellow in the #3 slot, and when you start the twist plugin type:

/twist 2 3 3 3

That will play the run song once, boastful bellow 3 times, and then the run song again. Don't use slot #1 for anything until you get level 49 and put accelerating chorus there - it only works once every couple minutes.

When you get level 30 add Fufil's Curtailing Chant to the mix in another slot (lets say #4), like this:

/twist 2 3 3 4

At 38 add Tuyen's Chant of Flame, and at 42 add Tuyen's chant of disease - replacing boastful bellow for good, and at 46 add chant of frost replacing fufil's.

When you get 49, put accelerating chorus in the #1 slot, and add another slot to the end, like this:

/twist 1 3 4 5 6

So you can bring fufil's back until you get level 50 and the poison DoT.


As for zones to do this in, there are tons. You need to look for the following: an outdoor zone, lots of mobs in the same place (camps are nice), the mobs don't cast or summon, and few players around to watch.

Old world zones are wonderful for this.

I think I mentioned jaggedpine bandit camps as being great for high 40's, you get a lot of mobs that spawn in the same place.


Vxed is the only instanced zone I've run it in successfully. Other instances, like LDoN, don't have mobs that respawn. And most GoD instances have mobs that summon or cast. The Vxed spot took me a good month or two of asking around and searching, but getting over 1k AA's for 3 characters there was worth it.

 

[cbsro]

Quick thing I've noticed, I think the reason you had level 12 mobs is because you were grouped with someone out of zone. This happened to me a few times, only when I was grouped with an alt who was on the way there. I haven't used FH with a bard in awhile, but it's a good place to normal-group level. I have 3 alts running in there right now (all macroed of course), pretty good exp. Mobs don't hit for much either

 

[mandrack]

There is a 6 hours timer on this expedition, I have in one of my macro's added a way to zone back in etc, not sure if that is in the macro i posted months ago.

 

[darkeros]

I don't know who told you that AoE dots can't be used while kiting. You can use them, there is just a maximum amount of mobs it will hit.

 

[Jumjum5]

Here is the macro I posted yesterday. It kites in the room with all the rats and is much better than the big square room because you dont get the can't see target message. So far I have used this macro for 5 expiditions and haven't died yet. Gona try to get it to get another expidition, zone back in and start kiting again.

This macro made for www.Redguides.com
| Don't steal it or we'll punch your fase!
#turbo  
#event camp "personingroup tells the group, 'lets roll'  
#event dzadd "personyouwanttoadd tells you, 'add me'  
#event invite "#*#invites you to join#*#"  
#Event Zoned "#*#You have entered Guild Lobby#*#"  
  
  
Sub Main  
:begin  
/face heading 270
/delay 2s
/warp loc -573.50 162.80 2.15
/circle on 21
/keypress forward hold
/twist 1 7 7 7
    
:loopstart 
/doevents  
/call GMcheck  
/if (${Target.Level}>67) /tar npc next 
/if (${Target.Distance}>220) /keypress esc  
/if (${Target.ID}==FALSE) /tar NPC radius 220 rat
/if (${Me.PctHPs}<=30) /call succor
/delay 10  
/goto :loopstart  
/return  

Sub succor

/warp loc 245 -33 0
/circle off
/twist 1
/delay 60
:loopheal
/if (${Me.PctHPs}>80) {
/face heading 270
/warp loc -573.50 162.80 2.15
/circle on 21
/keypress forward hold
/twist 1 7 7 7
/return
}
/delay 60
/goto :loopheal
/return

  
 Sub GMcheck  
 /if (${Spawn[gm].ID}) {  
 /echo Gm detected  
 /beep 
 /beep 
 /beep  
 /keypress 9 
 /endmac 
 /unload 
 /q  
 }  
 /return  
  
 Sub event_camp  
 /sit  
 /camp desk  
 /return  
  
 sub event_zoned  
 /delay 5s  
 /sit  
 /camp desk  
 /endmac 
 /return  

 sub event_dzadd 
 /dzadd personyouwanttoadd 
 /return 

 sub event_invite

 

[jbone]

My bard has Karana drums. With or without these drums my bard seems to get smacked hard and lose hps fast. His HP regen song isn't that helpful in that situation. I've been having to cast Chloro on my bard before stepping into this zone and running the macro.

Works like a dandy tho!

TY Jum!!!

 

[geostone]

My bard has Karana drums. With or without these drums my bard seems to get smacked hard and lose hps fast. His HP regen song isn't that helpful in that situation. I've been having to cast Chloro on my bard before stepping into this zone and running the macro.

Works like a dandy tho!

TY Jum!!!

what has helped me with vxed are the new healing potions
they are cheap,they stack and potion belt enabled..

working on adding to tone's vxed macro but great addition to help stay alive while kiting

 

[Riddlerr]

yes you were right about the lvl 10 mobs and being grouped. i dropped the group and had normal level mobs. gonna run a little 19 bard and see how well this does with the macro in full.

 

[Riddlerr]

Very nice idea, will have to try it for the privacy since servers are much more crowded again.

Have 1 question, since I'm not sure...in the Sub GMcheck.

what do you have "9" set to do?

Thanks

this is set for fadeing memories. if you look in the code. you will see.

Sub GMcheck  
 /if (${Spawn[gm].ID}) {  
 /echo Gm detected  
 /beep 
 /beep 
 /beep  
 /keypress 9 
 /endmac 
 /unload 
 /q  
 }  
 /return

if /keypress 9 was ment for instacamp. you would not need the /q part. thats basiclly what instacamp was. it was ment to clear agro so that when you /q you dont get smacked my the train that you are kitting.

 

[Joman]

I don't know who told you that AoE dots can't be used while kiting. You can use them, there is just a maximum amount of mobs it will hit.

erm this was nerfed ages ago when bards were callled 'overpowerd' (my ass were we haha only emptied pon in about 10mins :p anyways)

Its a smidgin confusing so will try to explane to ya. using our 67 AE dot/slow Shenannigans (god i cant spell) this has a AE dot effect and a AE slow effect.

when in a circle with how ever many mobs chasing you. play this and you wont see any DoT dammage (because the mobs are moving) however they are SLOWED.

If you stand still (eg get whacked) the dotdammage takes effect (eg when the mobs are standing still coz there smacking you)...

Moving mobs
effect 1 slow
effect 2 dot (blocked)

Still mobs
Effect 1 slow
effect 2 Dot (not blocked because there not moving)

so no you cannot use AE dots to swarm kite any longer /crys

 

[devastator]

This is a great post. I've been experimenting with it and wanted to know what spells you are using in your twist 1 7 7 7. Ie what is 1 and 7. Can't wait to try this more tonight.

 

[jmustful]

Depending on level - I use 4 dots and selo and a healing song.
1-dot
2-snare (just in case)
3-dot
4-heal
5-dot
6-dot
7-sing amp (anything really)
8-sole

I will twist 1 3 8 5 6 8 7 4 8

In case I miss a note I want 8 to be played for sure and some macro's won't play if affect is still up. But this is a very safe twist. You can put more dots in 7 and 2 and don't let some Dumbass bard tell you that you can't 6 or 8 dot.

BTW - They nerfed Bard AGAIN last patch. Dot's are capped at 149 per tick.