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Erol-Tob said:Yes.
The fact that every statement you make is a lie, is true, because you do not clearly understand the parameters of the statement. Lies are statements in one sense but false statements in another, therefore if every statement you make is a lie, you must be telling the truth in only a first person perspective.
awev said:as I only know one person in existance who is without sin - Jesus the Christ. All men, except for Christ, has committed at least one sin, and most people more than two.
papasmurf99 said:
RedBema said:Smurf, keep note that Dan Brown's "Da Vinci Code" is a complete fictional book, and has no relvevance to truth. It would be as if I stated that the Cat in the Hat was a real being who truly existed and came into childrens homes and talked to goldfish. It was a fictional book. If you want to start a new thread on the Da Vinci code, I would be more than willing to discuss the absurdness of it and how it uses complete false information, and no historical information to write a false book about the truthful Man, Jesus Christ.
Here is another thought...
Where was God, before He created the world, and what was He doing? I have an idea, but I would love to hear from you...
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
How can you imagine planets, suns, black holes, life as we know it, if it started from nothing? Again, where the matter come from to form the big bang? The Lord has stated that he is the Alpha and Omega - the begining and the end. That is more than what the universe has told us.How can one even begin to fathom the existance of an intelligent being (or any at all) in a complete lack of anything, an absolute nothingness is hard to imagine.
papasmurf99 said:The first part of this quote is only partially true... there are many paganistic facts in there, and lets just say that the Christian Church hasn't exactly always been the most truthful either (example: sometime around 1400 A.D. church starts taking bribes for admittance to heavan...), but the analogy was hilarious, so it's fine by me ^^.
About the second part, I have no idea, which is why I am a skeptic. People have always blindly followed the idea that god created the universe, and before he did so, there was nothing. If there was nothing, then where or what was god? How can one even begin to fathom the existance of an intelligent being (or any at all) in a complete lack of anything, an absolute nothingness is hard to imagine. When others ask me what I mean when I say this, I explain it through another paradox... what to blind people actually see? They don't see black, this is a common misconception brought on by the belief that when ours eyes close, they 'turn off' or something, when in reality you are only seeing the insides of your eyelids. Black and white are considered the default, which exists only with a complete lack of color... but even a lack of color must be seen... and if blind people can't see, they don't see white, black, anything... when I imagine nothing, I imagine space, meaning blackness... but even black is a color... hopefully someone understands what I'm trying to say.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the matter, because I was once religious, but then I began to think about it and there were so many things that no one could explain to me...so please, in all sincerity, let me know...
(This is the first time in years I've had a philosophical conversation... It's actually fairly enjoyable!)
RedBema said:If you have any thoughts about this statement, please respond...
"Every statement that I make is a lie"
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Boswell said:Did not the atom not exist until man thought it might exist and start to look for it and therefore was it not the thought of man that brought into existence the atom ?
papasmurf99 said:It's funny how life works, I came to this website looking for some guides to a video game, and found myself pondering the very creation of our universe.
Mr. Phony mick ring ring said:But religion can also corrupt. The catholic church has reformed, but between the 1400's and the 1600's it had some very corrupt popes and cardinals. I also dislike missionarys. I live in Utah so i get a lot of them. I am constantly in discussion with them while i stand in the cold at my front door. They dont seem to like the fact that i dont agree with there way of thinking. But thats o.k. they don't seem to agree with some of my ideas either.
RedBema said:Truth is still truth whether we believe it or not.