Question - Tantor Raid - Looking for a foolproof method to stay out of the way of a charging Elephant

[Szazor]

I have a Event setup for the Tantor raid which Basically runs from Nav point A..thru Nav point D as shown below and then returns to the raid at Tantors butt.

This works sometimes.....but maybe 50% of the time Tantor doesnt charge when he says he is going to charge. I dont know if its actually random, or he is just broken.
But 50% of the time he is a very smart elephant and waits until you have run the bases and then he chases you. Resulting in a power-up

So my question is - What method should I use to have my toon just stay 200 away from Tantor until the "Tantor gives up the Chase"

Would a Lua event be best? ie Trigger and then something like a If Tantor <200 then runaway

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Trapper]

Looking at mine, I did 4 locs in a circle around him and then just looped it until one of the success messages.

but I also believe there was like a 10-15 sec delay before he even starts the chase so I had it delay like 10s before even starting the run.

though I've handled some other raid events like this differently where I run to first loc and then wait for boss to be within range < 100 to run to next loc..

Good luck.

 

[Many_Whelps]

Zone lag plays heavily into the execution of the server's script. You really need an event that will stay away until it gets the "all clear" emote before returning. Assuming a consistent amount of time spent running a cycle isn't going to give you the best result.

 

[Wild Beagle]

Zone lag plays heavily into the execution of the server's script. You really need an event that will stay away until it gets the "all clear" emote before returning. Assuming a consistent amount of time spent running a cycle isn't going to give you the best result.

This. This has been true with a variety of triggers people set up on GINA or timers too. You cannot count on a specific time as zone lag can make the running go as much as twice as long as the shortest possible run. And of course leashing its a real possibility too.

 

[BlankStare]

Since this is no longer current content and we are not in competition for this raid loot, I am happy to share the event triggers that I set up while we 8-boxed this raid on a weekly basis:

[TantorRock]
trigger=#*#Tantor grabs a rock with its trunk and turns toward#*#|${Me}|#*#
command=/multiline ; /MQP on ; /nav loc -887 -1143 -27 ; /timed 10 /nav locyx ${Math.Calc[${Me.Y}-200]} ${Me.X}; /timed 25 /keypress DUCK; /timed 50 /face Tantor00

[TantorRockReturn]
trigger=#*#A rock whizzes over the head of its intended target.#*#
command=/if (${Me.Ducking}) /multiline ; /timed 20 /tar npc Tantor00; /timed 40 /nav target; /timed 50 /keypress DUCK; /timed 60 /MQP off

[TantorChase]
trigger=#*#Tantor roars, pointing its trunk at#*#|${Me}|#*#
command=/multiline ; /MQP on; /nav loc -845 -745 -39; /timed 100 /nav loc -677 -704 -43; /timed 150 /nav loc -403 -1038 -33; /timed 240 /tar NPC Tantor00; /timed 260 /nav target; /timed 270 /MQP off

This is set up for macro automation; modify it for CWTN or any other plugin or Lua that you run for your character(s).

 

[Szazor]

trigger=#1#Tantor roars, pointing its trunk at |${Me}|#2#
command=/if (${Me.Running}) /multiline ; /boxr pause; /attack off; /stopcast; /target clear; /nav wp left; /rsay Running away; /timed 60 /nav wp Front; /timed 120 /nav wp back; /timed 180 /nav wp right; /timed 250 /docommand /boxr unpause

my tantor chase is similar, only a slight difference in the timing. I might just extend my times and live with the occasional fail.

I was trying to convert this to a LEM that was very smart and Nav to one point, and keep running away if Tantor was moving, but I borked the syntax up somewhere so It didnt work.

 

[damination]

so how many groups would it take to do Tantor

 

[Szazor]

If you are boxing all the groups - I wouldnt try it without a full raid.

Lots of thing happening. Lots of AE mana drain, Rock throwing, Kiting, Frontal ae, Adds, Laggy zone and of course Tantor does a Power up on failed kiting.

Its a very good raid for learning how to handle all the chaos of a bot raid force, and its probably the first raid in COV you cant just burn your way through.

DPS wise - you probably only need about 20 Million though

 

[durango773]

If you are boxing all the groups - I wouldnt try it without a full raid.

Lots of thing happening. Lots of AE mana drain, Rock throwing, Kiting, Frontal ae, Adds, Laggy zone and of course Tantor does a Power up on failed kiting.

Its a very good raid for learning how to handle all the chaos of a bot raid force, and its probably the first raid in COV you cant just burn your way through.

DPS wise - you probably only need about 20 Million though

Can burn down Zland with 24 ezpeasy.. deff first CoV raid to do.

If they are decently geared, and max AA, ive done it with 40 boxes in era.. now, 40 (learning) should be able to.

 

[Eltai86]

When we were box raiding Tantor I ended up setting up a advpath to run. His trigger to start the run started the toon running the loop and the finish chase ended it and moved them back to where we would kill at

 

[eq1984]

If you are boxing all the groups - I wouldnt try it without a full raid.

Lots of thing happening. Lots of AE mana drain, Rock throwing, Kiting, Frontal ae, Adds, Laggy zone and of course Tantor does a Power up on failed kiting.

Its a very good raid for learning how to handle all the chaos of a bot raid force, and its probably the first raid in COV you cant just burn your way through.

DPS wise - you probably only need about 20 Million though

God, I just can't get it.
I understand the premise, I just get lost along the way as to how you guys manage all of this shit.

I'm a lot closer to zergging a boss than I am to being able to get multiple groups to do different tasks simultaneously.
I need a "Raiding w/ MQ2 for dummies"


.......back to the grind.

 

[Szazor]

This raid always seems a bit messy - but the final strategy i ended up using is to use the /circle command from the moveutils plugin.

something like:
[CODE title="Tantor Events"][Tantor Kite Finished]
trigger=#*#Tantor gives up the chase#*#
command=/multiline ; /circle off; /boxr unpause
[TantorChase]
trigger=#*#Tantor roars, pointing its trunk at#*#|${Me}|#*#
command=/multiline ; /boxr pause; /circle on 200; /circle loc -646.06 -936.68[/CODE]


This works 99% of the time - so the event becomes very trivial.

I think sometimes think we overlook the older plugins like mq2moveutils - but the older plugins really are fantastic!
I certainly did. /hats off to knightly!

 

[Grpsmashin]

This raid always seems a bit messy - but the final strategy i ended up using is to use the /circle command from the moveutils plugin.

something like:
[CODE title="Tantor Events"][Tantor Kite Finished]
trigger=#*#Tantor gives up the chase#*#
command=/multiline ; /circle off; /boxr unpause
[TantorChase]
trigger=#*#Tantor roars, pointing its trunk at#*#|${Me}|#*#
command=/multiline ; /boxr pause; /circle on 200; /circle loc -646.06 -936.68[/CODE]


This works 99% of the time - so the event becomes very trivial.

I think sometimes think we overlook the older plugins like mq2moveutils - but the older plugins really are fantastic!
I certainly did. /hats off to knightly!

Glad to see you pass this one man!