Question - Tank not picking up adds

[dchap0808]

Just curious, I have KA working fairly well, but I cant seem to get my SK to pick up any adds. Bst pulls a mob, occasionally gets 2, and the SK will pick off the first one, no problem, but never go after the 2nd mob.
The aggro could be cured by using AE taunts such as deceitful deflection or repugnant bargain, but I cant seem to get my SK to use those spells. Still cant get SK to attack the 2nd mob, so the other characters wont assist.
Any thoughts?
Thanks.

 

[ctaylor22]

That is by design. That is why Crowd control is so important in your group. Need an Enchanter or Bard to take care of the adds.

 

[Maskoi]

Th sk won't attack after the first mob dies?

Post your ini file

 

[Meistro]

Is your SK targeting himself of best (puller) when starting KA? You need to have your MA(TANK usually) targeting themselves when you start KA. If they target the puller they will be waiting for the puller to target something and the puller is waiting for the MA to target something and neither will because the other won't.

 

[Onamatter]

In your sk ini go to this section add your aoe aggro and the number of mobs u want it to be cast at, my sk burns through mana so i just use the AA aoe

[AE]
AEOn=1
AERadius=50
AE1=Explosion of Spite|2|Mob
AE2=Explosion of Hatred|3|Mob
AE3=Stream of Hatred|4|Mob
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL

 

[eqmule]

Without the ini it's difficult to answer your question, there is just too much info missing.
What role is the sk in? Tank or assist? Something else?
The bst, what's his role? Puller? Is he also main assist?
Who is main assist?
I can tell you one thing and it's something I feel strongly about, if a char is set to tank, that's his ONLY job, just assist the main assist. If a char is set to puller, he should JUST pull. If it's set to assist then it should ONLY assist.

Never at any point should a char for ANY reason check for adds in camp (exception: main assist is dead) That is the job of the main assist.

So unless your sk is main assist... He shouldn't be checking camp for adds, and he should absolutely not engage any other mob than whatever the main assist has as target...

I guess there might be some conflict arising if you have one char as a pure Puller and it's not the main assist as well, I never tried that my sk is the puller as well as the main assist... But ideally, the puller should only bring mobs to camp and then the main assist should grab them and the rest of the group should assist him.

 

[dchap0808]

I think I figured out my problem. I was using my Bst as my puller, because I had a few lines messed up in my SK's INI. I started fresh, and he seems to be acting correctly now. Also, using him as puller/tank. Bst and Bard are assisting at 95%. If it does it again, I'll post my INI to see what the problem is.

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Is your SK targeting himself of best (puller) when starting KA? You need to have your MA(TANK usually) targeting themselves when you start KA. If they target the puller they will be waiting for the puller to target something and the puller is waiting for the MA to target something and neither will because the other won't.

I'll give this a try. I thought for some reason you had to have someone else targeted? Maybe I'm making that up, lol.
I'm still getting used to KA. So far, I love it. Very simple to use. Bard and Bst are happy as can be, just my sk that is being picky.

 

[dchap0808]

SK seems to be back to his old trick, ignoring a second mob if they are added or if they came with the original pull.
He was doing great until today.
Any thoughts?

I did just notice that if my group is parked on an incline, the SK seems to act up, not picking up 2nd mob. Flat ground, seems ok though. Is there anything to that possibly?


[General]
KissAssistVer=8.5.5
Role=PullerTank
CampRadius=25
CampRadiusExceed=1500
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=30
MedCombat=0
LootOn=1
RezAcceptOn=1
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
CastingInterruptOn=0
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Shadow Knight|105
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Drape of the Wrathforged Rk. II
Buffs2=Vizat's Skin Rk. II
Buffs3=Shroud of the Doomscale Rk. II
Buffs4=Voice of Thule|MA
Buffs5=Zombie Skin
Buffs6=Staunch Stance Rk. II
Buffs7=distillate of alacrity x
Buffs8=call of gloomhaze
Buffs9=Vizat's Horror Rk. II
Buffs10=Staunch Stance Rk. II
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=5
PowerSource=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
[Melee]
AssistAt=100
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=front
AutoFireOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
GoMSpell3=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=1
AERadius=50
AE1=Explosion of Spite|2|Mob
AE2=Explosion of Hatred|3|Mob
AE3=Stream of Hatred|4|Mob
AE5=NULL
AE4=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Deceitful Deflection Rk. II|95
DPS2=distasteful Bargain|80
DPS3=Deceitful Blight Rk. II|90
DPS4=Dire Strangulation Rk. II|87
DPS5=Bond of Bonemaw Rk. II|83
DPS6=spear of vizat rk. ii|80
DPS7=spear of vizat rk. ii|40
DPS8=thought leech|70
DPS9=harm touch|90
DPS10=leech touch|80
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
Aggro1=Deceitful Deflection rk. II|90
Aggro2=Repugnant Bargain|80
Aggro3=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Repel Rk. II|60|tap
Heals2=Doomscale Mantle Rk. II|50|tap
Heals3=Vizat's Carapace Rk. II|45|tap
Heals4=Unholy Guardian Rk. II discipline|40|tap
Heals5=Dichotomic Fang|25
Heals6=Deflection discipline|20|tap
Heals7=Dire Declaration Rk. II|55|Tap
XTarHeal=0
HealGroupPetsOn=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=1
petspell=minion of vizat rk. ii
PetSpell=YourPetSpell
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=1
PetBuffs1=gift of lutzen rk. ii
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetCombatOn=1
PetBreakMezSpell=NULL
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
MoveWhenHit=0
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
BurnAllNamed=1
Burn1=Fundament: Third Spire of the Reavers
Burn2=Projection of Doom
Burn3=Innoruuk's Dark Blessing
Burn4=Chattering Bones
Burn5=Visage of Death
UseTribute=0
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Touch of Holmein
MaxRadius=1200
MaxZRange=100
PullWait=0
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=75
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

 

[ctaylor22]

you may need to bump your AERadius=50 out a bit, the incline could be pushing the mobs outside of the 50 units. The check for distance is a 3D check not 2D so the incline matters.

 

[Meistro]

For them not picking up other mobs in camp, why would it be AERadius, not maybe a larger camp radius ( CampRadius=40 vs CampRadius=25)?

 

[ctaylor22]

For them not picking up other mobs in camp, why would it be AERadius, not maybe a larger camp radius ( CampRadius=40 vs CampRadius=25)?

Well he might need to expand his CampRadius a bit as well, but even if he does and the mob is outside of his AE radius, and he is depending on the SK's AE to grab agro? He will never cast his AE spells. The AE radius and AE routine is not tied to the CampRadius in any way. What all this is dependent on is how and when he is trying to pickup the adds. From what I can tell he want to grab the agro on incoming when he has more than 1 mob. If 1 of the mobs peals off to pound on a healer or debuffer before the add gets with in AERadius, the SK will never cast his AE's.