Question - Puller keeps getting stuck targeting group members, any pointers?

binutils · Oct 27, 2025

I'm not sure what I've done wrong, my Necro is the PullerTank role but it keeps rotating through targeting group members while console says Looking for Close Range Mobs ... waiting x... while I can see mobs nearby.

It also kept getting stuck trying to navigate through doors with ReturnToCamp=1 so I set it to ReturnToCamp=0 and added the buff line /nav wp camp which doesn't seem to get stuck.

INI:

[General]
KissAssistVer=12.002
CampRadius=70
CampRadiusExceed=600
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=0
MedStart=50
MedStop=80
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
Role=PullerTank
RezAcceptOn=1|20
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1|70
GroupWatchCheck=Cond6
CorpseRecoveryOn=0
EQBCOn=1
CampfireOn=0
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=0
ScatterOn=0
LOSBeforeCombat=0

[Melee]
AssistAt=99
FaceMobOn=1
UseMQ2Melee=1
MeleeDistance=60
MeleeOn=0
StickHow=snaproll !front
TargetSwitchingOn=1

[Pull]
PullWith=Pet
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=650
MaxZRange=125
UseWayPointZ=
PullWait=1
PullRadiusToUse=75
PullRoleToggle=1
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=80
PullPause=0
PullArcWidth=0
PullOnReturn=1

[PullAdvanced]

[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=2

[Spells]
MiscGem=8
MiscGemRemem=1
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KissAssist
CastingInterruptOn=1
CheckStuckGem=1
GemCount=8
Gem1=Vampiric Embrace
Gem2=Drain Spirit
Gem3=Heart Flutter
Gem4=Asystole
Gem5=Renew Bones
Gem6=Invoke Death
Gem7=Augment Death
Gem8=

[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=5
Buffs1=command:/useitem Worn Totem|Dual|Blessing of Swiftness|Me|Cond3
Buffs2=command:/notify AlertWnd ALW_Dismiss_Button leftmouseup|Me
Buffs3=Vampiric Embrace|Me
Buffs4=command:/nav wp camp|Me
Buffs5=command:/sit|Me|Cond3
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10

[Heals]
HealsOn=1
HealsSize=2
Heals1=Drain Spirit|90|tap
Heals2=Renew Bones|90|pet
AutoRezOn=0
HealGroupPetsOn=1

[Cures]

[DPS]
DPSOn=2
DPSSize=3
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Heart Flutter|98|Cond2
DPS2=Asystole|98|Cond2
DebuffAllOn=0

[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=3
AE1=Infectious Cloud|2|Mob|Cond2

[Burn]

[Aggro]

[Mez]

[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=1
MercAssistAt=98

[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0

[KConditions]
ConOn=1
CondSize=6
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=${Me.PctMana}>=88
Cond3=(${Me.PctMana} <= 90) || (${Me.PctHPs} <= 90) || (${Me.PctHPs} < 95 && ${Me.PctMana} < 95)
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE
Cond6=${Me.Snared} || ${Group.AnyoneMissing} || ${Me.Buff[Resurrection Sickness].ID} || ${Me.Buff[Revival Sickness].ID}

[Pet]
PetOn=1
PetCombatOn=1
PetSpell=Malignant Dead
PetBuffsOn=1
PetBuffsSize=1
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
PetForceHealOnMed=0
PetBuffs1=Augment Death

Sic · Oct 27, 2025

is MaxZRange=125 this the correct MaxZRange you want to use? 125 isn't *crazy* small, but I would usually expect to see larger

you also have: Buffs4=command:/nav wp camp|Me which is probably what you're talking about moving around weird.

binutils · Oct 27, 2025

Sic said:
is MaxZRange=125 this the correct MaxZRange you want to use? 125 isn't *crazy* small, but I would usually expect to see larger

you also have: Buffs4=command:/nav wp camp|Me which is probably what you're talking about moving around weird.

Thank you! I'll try larger MaxZRange. I had to do the /nav wp to keep puller from getting stuck trying to go through doorway back to camp indoors. It's almost like the normal ReturnToCamp method doesn't honor the mq2nav mesh.

nitramneb · Oct 27, 2025

binutils said:
Thank you! I'll try larger MaxZRange. I had to do the /nav wp to keep puller from getting stuck trying to go through doorway back to camp indoors. It's almost like the normal ReturnToCamp method doesn't honor the mq2nav mesh.

Do you have doors on in Nav? You can turn on/off with /nav ini OpenDoors 1/0, or open the nav ui and click them on/off in there.

NALGAS374 · Oct 27, 2025

binutils said:

I'm not sure what I've done wrong, my Necro is the PullerTank role but it keeps rotating through targeting group members while console says Looking for Close Range Mobs ... waiting x... while I can see mobs nearby.

It also kept getting stuck trying to navigate through doors with ReturnToCamp=1 so I set it to ReturnToCamp=0 and added the buff line /nav wp camp which doesn't seem to get stuck.

INI:

[General]
KissAssistVer=12.002
CampRadius=70
CampRadiusExceed=600
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=0
MedStart=50
MedStop=80
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
Role=PullerTank
RezAcceptOn=1|20
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1|70
GroupWatchCheck=Cond6
CorpseRecoveryOn=0
EQBCOn=1
CampfireOn=0
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=0
ScatterOn=0
LOSBeforeCombat=0

[Melee]
AssistAt=99
FaceMobOn=1
UseMQ2Melee=1
MeleeDistance=60
MeleeOn=0
StickHow=snaproll !front
TargetSwitchingOn=1

[Pull]
PullWith=Pet
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=650
MaxZRange=125
UseWayPointZ=
PullWait=1
PullRadiusToUse=75
PullRoleToggle=1
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=80
PullPause=0
PullArcWidth=0
PullOnReturn=1

[PullAdvanced]

[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=2

[Spells]
MiscGem=8
MiscGemRemem=1
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KissAssist
CastingInterruptOn=1
CheckStuckGem=1
GemCount=8
Gem1=Vampiric Embrace
Gem2=Drain Spirit
Gem3=Heart Flutter
Gem4=Asystole
Gem5=Renew Bones
Gem6=Invoke Death
Gem7=Augment Death
Gem8=

[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=5
Buffs1=command:/useitem Worn Totem|Dual|Blessing of Swiftness|Me|Cond3
Buffs2=command:/notify AlertWnd ALW_Dismiss_Button leftmouseup|Me
Buffs3=Vampiric Embrace|Me
Buffs4=command:/nav wp camp|Me
Buffs5=command:/sit|Me|Cond3
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10

[Heals]
HealsOn=1
HealsSize=2
Heals1=Drain Spirit|90|tap
Heals2=Renew Bones|90|pet
AutoRezOn=0
HealGroupPetsOn=1

[Cures]

[DPS]
DPSOn=2
DPSSize=3
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Heart Flutter|98|Cond2
DPS2=Asystole|98|Cond2
DebuffAllOn=0

[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=3
AE1=Infectious Cloud|2|Mob|Cond2

[Burn]

[Aggro]

[Mez]

[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=1
MercAssistAt=98

[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0

[KConditions]
ConOn=1
CondSize=6
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=${Me.PctMana}>=88
Cond3=(${Me.PctMana} <= 90) || (${Me.PctHPs} <= 90) || (${Me.PctHPs} < 95 && ${Me.PctMana} < 95)
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE
Cond6=${Me.Snared} || ${Group.AnyoneMissing} || ${Me.Buff[Resurrection Sickness].ID} || ${Me.Buff[Revival Sickness].ID}

[Pet]
PetOn=1
PetCombatOn=1
PetSpell=Malignant Dead
PetBuffsOn=1
PetBuffsSize=1
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
PetForceHealOnMed=0
PetBuffs1=Augment Death

are you using plugin?

Sic · Oct 27, 2025

NALGAS374 said:
are you using plugin?

this is kissassist support thread asking a question about their kissassist ini --- what plugin are you asking about?

dal98 · Oct 27, 2025

binutils said:
Thank you! I'll try larger MaxZRange. I had to do the /nav wp to keep puller from getting stuck trying to go through doorway back to camp indoors. It's almost like the normal ReturnToCamp method doesn't honor the mq2nav mesh.

Is the pulling paused because of

GroupWatchOn=1|70

As I believe with the way you have it set, once anybody gets to 70% mana, pulling would stop until 90% mana.

NALGAS374 · Oct 27, 2025

Sic said:
is MaxZRange=125 this the correct MaxZRange you want to use? 125 isn't *crazy* small, but I would usually expect to see larger

you also have: Buffs4=command:/nav wp camp|Me which is probably what you're talking about moving around weird.

yeah i just noticed im slow....

reedreddington · Oct 28, 2025

PullRadiusToUse=75

Pull radius seems pretty small.

Sic · Oct 29, 2025

reedreddington said:
PullRadiusToUse=75

Pull radius seems pretty small.

Not that small..this is the percentage of the range your pull item/ability can be. This won't make it so you never pull with your item and only melee.

reedreddington · Oct 29, 2025

I thought it was an absolute value. Definitely a strange case.

dal98 · Oct 29, 2025

reedreddington said:
I thought it was an absolute value. Definitely a strange case.

I think you are thinking of MaxRadius, which is the size of area you want to try and pull, whereas Sic said, PullRadiustoUse is how far away from the mob you want to be when using an item/aa/ability that has a range to pull from.

reedreddington · Oct 29, 2025

dal98 said:
I think you are thinking of MaxRadius, which is the size of area you want to try and pull, whereas Sic said, PullRadiustoUse is how far away from the mob you want to be when using an item/aa/ability that has a range to pull from.

This makes more sense to me. I use the area my spell would cover on my puller. Since the INI of the OP uses PullWith=Pet to pull I thought it was somewhat strange he has it set to PullRadiusToUse=75

Sic · Oct 29, 2025

reedreddington said:
This makes more sense to me. I use the area my spell would cover on my puller. Since the INI of the OP uses PullWith=Pet to pull I thought it was somewhat strange he has it set to PullRadiusToUse=75

Well, it needs a value. I don't imagine that value is getting used for pet pulling since it isn't an item or a spell.

ctaylor22 · Nov 1, 2025

Turn off ChainPull. You should only use Chain pulling with a pure puller role character. If the Character is targeting other characters, that most likely has to do with the buffs or heals section. As far as not pulling mobs I don't see anything that is jumping out at me. If you create a debug log and send it to me in a PM/DM I will take a look and see what is going on.

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