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IRL - Old School eq memories to share?

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Thought it would be fun to let some of the newer people know what it was like when eq first started. Here are a few of the things i remember.

When you needed to med you could not the see the world. so you had to med in a safe place.

When you died your body was able to be looted by anyone. so you had to run back fast and make sure your stuff was still there. There were times i ended up naked.

There was this camp for J boots that everone wanted , you had to wait in line for about 15 hours for the camp or longer and everyone was there.

There was a named mob( the sleeper) that could only be awakened once on every server. If you left it there the wardens would spawn special items and many people farmed those special items with a server wide agreement that no one would kill the sleeper. Some guild killed it without the server acceptance and that guild was pretty much done after that.

Lol those were just some of my memories. Anyone have one to share?
 
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I want to add to the medding you had to stare at your spell book if I recall. So you couldn't even look at what was happening around you.

I remember having an extra set of gear in the bank for those corpse runs. Unless you knew a necro to summon sometimes you had to fight back to your corpse.

The game was great back in the day. It was tougher to play. I do miss it but would never have the time to play like I did when it first came out.
 
The running...so much running. Getting from EverFrost to West Freeport felt like a "Lord of the Rings" type of quest. It was nearly impossible until you were in your late teens without a group. Then, if you died, you had to run more to get your stuff back.
 
The distances felt so much more real. Taking boats from place to place for what felt like forever. I can recall falling asleep at the keyboard more than once and waking up to see my character still on the boat and back where I started.
 
Jboots, oof. Typing the list of who would loot in chat as the hours rolled by.

Making bank sitting at plane of hate zl summoning corpses as a Necro.

Lake of ill omen camps
 
I forgot about the running and distance. I had a bot wizard that used to port people all over. I also remember wall camping to get to TOV....I dont think I ever ran through sirens grotto
 
My very first character was a Qeynosian Monk. I decided to stop playing that character when I grouped with a group heading to Paw to level and found that I actively ran slower than everyone else despite all having SoW from the same caster. My computer that I played that character on was so bad it actually affected my in-game run speed.

I rolled a HIE Magician after a computer upgrade. That's when Evercrack really got me. Despite having to stare at my spellbook to regain mana (the joy I felt when they made just sitting down activate meditate is illegal in 53 countries) I was having an absolute blast. The costs of spells and malachite, though, kept me pretty broke until I could start killing dwarves at the docks in BB, and gradually I became an overall better player once I could stop worrying about getting my spells and keeping enough malachite on hand for whatever I was doing at the time. I remember being dismayed when I found out they stopped selling all my pet spells at 16 - then, taking my first trip to Ocean of Tears to pick up the pet spells I couldn't otherwise purchase, because inventory management was, and still is, a game I suck at and doing tradeskills sounded like absolute torture to research my own spells - because what kind of spellcaster doesn't have every spell? Once I picked up my new 16 spells there, I immediately made the great decision to start killing the Sisters and making sure I could never safely go near Kelethin again.

Around the time I hit 35 on that magician is when they made level 35 the level you no longer had to stare at your spellbook and the aforementioned illegal joy sprang up inside of me. The muscle memory, though, of hitting Ctrl+B and hitting the meditate button took a long time to shake off.

My first LGuk group was a doozy. Party had to talk me through swimming down through the tunnel and into the bedroom, where our camp was. I stayed there til about level 40, just shooting the shit with party members or sitting on waiting lists.

Waiting lists. Fucking hell. Remember when groups would put together waiting lists for replacements? I still see it once in a while on TLPs.

I remember soloing all my Temple of Solusek Ro items, and doing all the foci. I was skeptical about them making pets stronger because there was no indication on the items then that they had any kind of focus effect at all - coupled with random pet levels on summon. At least they had insta-Reclaim Energy if you got a bum pet and you could get some of the mana back, if not the precious malachite, when going for a max level pet. Summoning pets over and over again, sending them against level 1 mobs to see their max hit so you knew what level they were. I finally convinced myself the foci were doing what people said they were when I stopped seeing the smallest max hit I'd figured out on pets per level. I was so proud of myself for my Robe of the Elements. It looked so cool. Buying random giant toes off vendors or players was an entertaining game, and tracking down griffons without track became frustratingly difficult, since whenever I didn't want a griffon I'd get one in my face while trying to med up or when I was under level 20, but the moment I wanted to find one, they had an extinction event.

I also entertained myself by figuring out the best way to get bolt spells to hit twice. Elevation differences and slopes, how the fuck do they work? Nobody at Verant seemed to know, but I had a pretty good inkling, and I could pretty regularly, if zone geometry permitted, to get a bolt spell to hit twice 90% of the time. I never did check and see if arrows had a similar logic and double-hit thing that could be pull off; I figured it'd probably be possible, I just wasn't gonna level up a Ranger to test, no matter how cool they looked in Thorny Vine. I still can't get them to on P99 or TAKP, though - probably because the bug was fixed by the time the Titanium Client and EQMac were a thing. (Fun fact, levitation made double-hit bolts way easier to pull off, and many Rings of Levitation got burnt through for it.) I doubt I could manage it now even if it did work; young me was a clever little bitch that found tons of exploits in all kinds of games. Old me just plays things the intended way cause fuck that noise.
 
My main character is the original, from 1999. Most anoying thig was to go get everything on corpse when we die. I remember calling a friend when LD to ask him to please log on and loot my corpse for me cause was out conection.
In fact, internet was something really different by then. Ping was crazy. Raid was something if noone LD at least once.
Old Days. Old Days.
 
The things I remember most were using bandages to get a little health back. They were essential. Now we destroy them when we make a new toon because they just take up space.

The other thing I remember is how hard my 20s were. I camped some crazy places in my 20s all over the map. Now I just go to Echo B put on damage shield and let the mosquitoes beat themselves to death on my new solo toons.

Leveling was killing mobs sometimes for days on end. Now it's mostly missions and quests.

Getting killed was punitive. It hurt and it costed real XP. Your only Rez was a high level Cleric.

Choosing a race with night blindness was punitive as well. You had better be able to see at night.
 
Definitely the distance. The Qeynos to Butcherblock run was amazing. Especially the hugging wall when running around Kith to get to commonlands.

The joy at camping an item for 8+ hours to get an additional marginal upgrade in stats. (ex. Paw of Opolla on my original druid)

One of the biggest game changing experiences for me was my small guild's first run into PoFear (pre Kunark) and the multiple wipes we had. Then the elite guild of the server (Recon on E'ci) came over and broke the entrance and let us go in and do corpse recovery. I remember thinking how chaotic things were for my group/guild and watching them just perfectly spread out and organized and handling things without any sign of chaos. It was an eye opening experience to know that there was definitely a lot of strategy involved in the end game.

 
There was a named mob( the sleeper) that could only be awakened once on every server. If you left it there the wardens would spawn special items and many people farmed those special items with a server wide agreement that no one would kill the sleeper. Some guild killed it without the server acceptance and that guild was pretty much done after that.

Nope. It was actually a joint effort across the server and the real story comes from when the devs despawned it (because it wasn't meant to be killed) and then had to backtrack. There were some server politics around why it was done (Rallos Zek).

 
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I remember camping Grimfeather as a kid on new years, and the bugger skipped his spawn. I stayed up for 28 hours before falling asleep.

Woke up at like 4 am, would have been hour 33 and i could hear the sound effect of flapping wings. He was up, i got the kill and my map piece. Looked around in 3rd person and saw another player sitting there Fd'd. He said grats and i ran off and went to bed.

That guy could have taken the kill, but he honored the camp code.
 
I remember :-
  • zoning into Blackbarrow for the 1st time on my 1st ever character (Druid) and learning about grouping / wiping / grinding
  • running to the zone and jumping just to squeeze some extra speed to try to survive
  • jumping off boats before they docked as I was KOS to everything in town
  • waking up at ungodly hours to race to a raid boss that had spawned
  • grinding after raids to recover some of the experience I would lose on raids (learning raids could be real painful in time & exp lost)
 
I started in 2001 as an ogre sk and as I was killing in south ro in my teens , a troll sk comes up to me and gives me a set of fine steel armor, telling me how nice it was to see a new player .. lol
 
Oh, I just remembered the best old school memory - spamming the screenshot key to stutter the client while angling into the wall while zoning out of Befallen to bypass the zone line and get into the Cat Room behind it. I'd run there just to AFK because it was neat.
 
Going into Mistmoore, and was greated with the OOC, "train to entrance, Rangers and children zone first." By the time I loaded, I was dead, but appreciated the warning.
 
My first day of EQ is permanently etched in my memory - Created a Human Necromancer in freeport. Entered the game at night, and it was raining my 14 year old world went from black and white to color that day, even though as a human I couldn't see 3 feet between the short draw distance, fog, and UI that obscured 2/3rds of the screen. Tried to make my way to the necromancer guild, no maps or find features existed and I went the wrong way and fell into a sewer area with zombies in the water and died leaving my corpse along with my starter dagger, food and water at the bottom of a pool with monsters that way outleveled me. I couldn't find my way back to my corpse so I deleted the character and remade him.

I also deleted and remade that second character when I gave the book to the preist of discord only to find out i'd ruined the character forever.

I was SO afraid to travel because of losing my corpse/gear permanently - have a vivid memory of getting into a group for pre-change splitpaw and getting trained and dying DEEP inside and needing to get a rogue from my guild to come loot all the gear from my body and give it back to me (bags, plat, everything, you repawned completely naked) and for me that was freeport so something like freeport > north ro > oasis > south ro > feerott > rathe mountains > lake rathe > south karana > split paw at a snails pace with no movement buffs and no maps basically from memory. "from memory" for me meant do i hug the left zone wall or the right zone wall to get to the next zone.I autorun into the invisible zone edges on an angle to run along the absolute boarder and hope nothing attacks me.

Even when I got to the zone my body was in, I was helpless, i couldn't get to it myself.

Boats: The boat from freeport to butcherblock took FOREVER, something like I want to say 45 minutes? so you'd not only have to wait forever for it to come, it was a LONG ride. Every other stop had mobs that would attack me so I'd need to hide on the boat to avoid being attacked. These were dial up days for me - so I have another fun memory of going link dead on the boat. Guess where you come back? In the ocean of course! No land in sight, no maps and a terrible swimming skill. Sense heading was a real skill you needed to work on -I didn't work on it, thank god I had gate (yay waiting for the boat back in freeport again)

Link dead: was always fun to go link dead at prime hours and then not be able to log back on because the sever was FULL. "I sure hope someone is still camping Frenzy when I can get back online."

Random: bronze armor sold player to player for 1pp per AC, people were actually using bronze armor.
 
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Waiting to kill the same 2-3 mobs on a 19 minute timer all night with an entire group

Just remembered, TUMPY TONICS. There was a huge tumpy tonic crazy because the quest gave a ton of experience and you could turn in stacks at a time, it required a trip from freeport to butcherblock buying materials from the sister island in ocean of tears (koala nut? iirc), I made some of my first decent platinum running to buy the ingredients and selling them to players to turn in for the quest.. got nerfed after a week or so
 
That was the way to riches back then. Porting and rezzing.
I made more plat selling SOW in Freeport/Commons.
So much the Shaman I made to do it literally has Sow in the name and became my main for most of my EQ raiding time.

Now getting that character from Halas to EC took me so many attempts.
 
raiding... the group who did the most dps got the kill in raids. no raid window yet.
 
Random: bronze armor sold player to player for 1pp per AC, people were actually using bronze armor.
Your server was certainly more generous than mine. Banded was 1pp per AC and Bronze was 2-3pp per AC.

Levitation used to bob you up and down... am I misremembering?
No. The bobbing went away at some point. Levitation bobbing is the only time in my life I have ever been motion sick at all.
 
Back when I first started playing my graphics card was so old that NPC names and player names just showed up an a pixelated box above everyone's head. I was playing on a dial-up modem and everything was slow and janky. In the freeport newbie zone I was callously killed by a vicious pvp character. "Stop!" I begged, typing as quickly as I could, "I'm new!" This did nothing, he didn't seem to care but the city guards took care of him quickly. I managed to find my body and spot the offending player with his back turned. I figured I had the advantage but, alas he and a friend managed to overpower me. I logged off, frustrated and defeated, sure that all my stuff was lost. The next day I told my friends about the encounter and they asked me why I'd decided to be a PVP player, after all, they had guided me through character creation and were sure I wasn't on a PVP server. I told them I had no idea what they were talking about but this guy and his friends had ganked me twice!

They confirmed that I didn't talk to the Priest of Discord and were scratching their heads trying to figure out how another player was killing me in the newbie zone. That night, they agreed to log on with me and help me get some gear while they kept an eye out for anyone training me or otherwise griefing. I happily started killing rats and snakes and the occasional skeleton when I saw him, the guy that ganked me! I told my friends he was here and they looked around, dumbfounded saying they didn't see anyone. So I run over and attack the guy, shouting to the whole zone: "Here, he's here!! This is the guy!" They don't move (I later found out that's because they had fallen out of their chairs laughing).

So, it turns out the "Ganker" I'd been being griefed by the previous night and bemoaning all the next day, the guy I'd sworn vengeance on and promised to one day defeat... was an orc pawn.
 
I'm going to take you back in time to the winter of 2005. Fireplace is crackling away with flames roaring as my roommates and I crack open celebratory drinks after a long work day.
We all have our desks setup along the longest corner of our basement opposite the fireplace. My friends log in their toons, a warrior and a cleric, and myself on my bard.
Dragons of Norrath was still fresh, but all of us were still leveling on a new server. So with my selo's ticking we make our way to our favorite Wayfarer camp.
Manually twisting buff songs, crowd control and damage while also pulling was brutal at times but we had some good fun clearing those old missions.
Clearing Mistmoore's Catacombs and Deepest Guk formed some core memories of EQ for me, good times!
 
Many memories, I started a Monday evening in April 1999. EQ was 2 months old. While on the phone with a dear friend who guided/helped me create and get started. It was a Mage on E'Ci. I liked a built-in protector. However, there were some problems. Oh my God so many problems, like an almost 100% chance you would crash trying to zone anywhere. Odds were excellent you'd go link-dead, before recovering (restarting EQ, attempting to login to the server, trying to get back to wherever you're body lays. Plan on spending lots of time begging help. And many hours daily researching online. And back then the info was pretty rare. And the constant hunt for upgrades. Or begging again to someone to take your scarce hard won plat, to craft something you need. So much more, later.
 
I remember playing an ogre in Oggok, and there was a mob there that blinds you. Every time it happened I genuinely thought my video card had glitched, so I’d turn the computer off to reset it… 😅


I feel a bit stupid admitting that now, but it was pretty funny when someone finally told me what was actually happening!
 
I remember it used to broadcast the results of duels between two players to the entire server. And the game had a lot of glitches at first. So I remember people making funny character names to troll the devs using duels. So you would see things like, "Commonsense has defeated Verantdevs in a duel to the death!" Also you used to start with rusty weapons, but someone must have exploited it by creating lots of new characters and selling all the rusty weapons. So they had to change the starting gear to be non-sellable. Lame.

I remember the community was really nice and totally different to how the internet became years later. EQ was especially mature, the first few people I met were all 30+ years old and a stay at home mom or a small business owner running EQ on a second PC. But there were still a few trolls. Whoever did the most damage to a mob would get the xp. So I was in a group in Highpass killing orcs. And after a while we noticed we weren't getting xp anymore. Turns out a little gnome wizard was hiding nearby and would land his huge nuke on each orc while our group would fight it. And he got the xp. They had no play nice rules or anything back then so he got to troll people and got away with it. But he became well known / hated by groups so it probably backfired.

I remember before there were any expansions, the few high level zones would get super crowded. Most nights Lower Guk would reach 100+ players. Every mob would be dead and some people would resort to camping a single frog. My favorite memory is that nobody knew how to play at first. Even things like tank/dps/cc were not concepts that people knew about. So you would get groups forming with just a wizard, druid, and me (Bard). It was total chaos. Druid would nuke and the Orc or whatever would beat him up and he would run away typing /yell. Then the wizard would nuke and it would go after him instead. And I would run around like a ping pong trying to chase it and land a hit.
 
We stayed up all night for the killing of the Mechanical Guardian by the high levels helping all of us get whatever it was we were getting :)
I can't rememebr but it was truely fun!
 
was doing wizard epic on the morell thule server and decided to bind at the golem in plane of fear, but forgot that i did that so the next time i died was stuck in a death loop for ages until i could muster up a raid force to recover all my corpses
 
Most of my old memories revolve around PvP (Sullon Zek'er) and taking the world so seriously because so many people I knew were playing so it was like part of our social interaction.

Big wars over Cleric epic spawns, all night training to keep other teams from getting bosses/flags, absolute degenerate levels of griefing, etc.

I'm glad I did it, and lots of memories, but I'd also never do it again. I just can't take a game that seriously and have that level of investment anymore. I mean, I'll still play a lot, but it's much more clinical nowadays.
 
I hate to be Debbie Downer, but I have zero nostalgia for the pre-2007 versions of EQ. I thought the game sucked and was too much of a time sink for too little reward. Which explains why I never played often and quit early on. And does anyone remember how absolutely obnoxious the player base was? Words like "turd", "dickhead", and "loser" spring to mind to describe most of them. Post "The Serpent's Spine, the game is fun. But even with all the improvements and the great community we enjoy, I would stop playing tomorrow if it wasn't FtP and/or we couldn't automate our characters.
 
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I hate to be Debbie Downer, but I have zero nostalgia for the pre-2007 versions of EQ. I thought the game sucked and was too much of a time sink for little reward. Which explains why I never played often and quit early on. And does anyone remember how absolutely obnoxious the player base? Words like "turd", "dickhead", and "loser" spring to mind to describe most of them. Post "The Serpent's Spine, the game is fun. But even with all the improvements and the great community we enjoy, I would stop playing tomorrow if it wasn't FtP and/or we couldn't automate our characters.
Oh, absolutely.

I'm a fan of the game since 1999 but I will not hesitate to tell people that it's objectively a bad game in so many ways. Classic era was even worse, but it's still busted in every area imaginable.

Many of us are likely still playing it out of nostalgia, or out of appreciation for the systems that encourage boxing, team building, etc. (There are often so many buttons to use with niche applications that I forget to press them until the wipe happens and I remember I could have saved it...)
 
I agree I couldn't bare to play classic era EQ, as it was '99-'03, as an adult today. I loved the classic era of the game as a teenager since I had nothing else to do. It was good times indeed.

So back then I was in one of the top guilds on my server. The guild was known as the "scum of the server" and I think there was some other names passed around but I'll keep it PG. There was definitely a lot of drama, but it was an invited experience since I was a teenager and so were many of my other guild-mates. I think it was 2004 or something and the guild started to fall apart and I remember having to call CS (pretending to be my dad cuz I'm like 17) to get my Warrior's name changed so I could play in one of the other top guilds that despised me because of the guild I was in. The name change turned into a big fiasco; since, I happened to get connected to a person that happened to be a GM and had a big beef with our guild. I did eventually get my name changed and I was able to keep playing as a 1337 warrior of the time in other top guilds. I was a good boy after that.
 
The /q glitch that made you hit for 225 damage. (instead of like 20)

There was a glitch in the early days and when you did a /q when engaging a mob, your character changed to LD and stats changed to NPC You had unlimited mana and you could rampage, quad hit and hit for max damage then. Think it was 225.

Some top guilds cleared PoH with a LD paladin as tank. ;)

You basically became as tough as the Priest of Discord.
 
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