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Question - New user with some questions on buffing.

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BayouGator

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Signed up this past Sat. and am still trying to figure out everything. I am having problems with my toons buffing who they are suppose to.

Here are some examples:
My Shaman
Buffs1=Inner Fire|ME|CLASS|Ber (Will cast on themselves but not on Zerker)
Buffs2=Feet Like Cat|MA|CLASS|Ber (Will cast on Main Assist but not on Zerker)
Buffs3=Scale Skin|ME|CLASS|Ber (Will cast on themselves but not on Zerker)
Buffs4=Dexterous Aura|MA|CLASS|Ber (Will cast on Main Assist but not on Zerker)

My Cleric
Buffs1=Center|MA|ME (Will cast on Main Assist but not themselves)
Buffs2=Holy Armor|MA|ME (Will cast on Main Assist but not themselves)

I have tried different combos like:

Buffs1=Center|MA|CLASS|CLR but it still does the same thing.

I'm sure what I'm doing wrong is staring me in the face but I stumped right now. Oh and I know very little about programming.

Thanks
 
BayouGator said:
Signed up this past Sat. and am still trying to figure out everything. I am having problems with my toons buffing who they are suppose to.

Here are some examples:
My Shaman
Buffs1=Inner Fire|ME|CLASS|Ber (Will cast on themselves but not on Zerker)
Buffs2=Feet Like Cat|MA|CLASS|Ber (Will cast on Main Assist but not on Zerker)
Buffs3=Scale Skin|ME|CLASS|Ber (Will cast on themselves but not on Zerker)
Buffs4=Dexterous Aura|MA|CLASS|Ber (Will cast on Main Assist but not on Zerker)

My Cleric
Buffs1=Center|MA|ME (Will cast on Main Assist but not themselves)
Buffs2=Holy Armor|MA|ME (Will cast on Main Assist but not themselves)

I have tried different combos like:

Buffs1=Center|MA|CLASS|CLR but it still does the same thing.

I'm sure what I'm doing wrong is staring me in the face but I stumped right now. Oh and I know very little about programming.

Thanks
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howdy @BayouGator

Sorry for your troubles

I believe it is because you're trying to me ME and MA WITH the Class tag - you will need to use one or the other (if you do class just include your class as well)

Looks like you're well on your way to greatness tho - don't sweat the "very little about programming"

INI: 
What to buff.
MA, Me, Melee, Caster, Class are valid targets flags.
Kiss automatically detects self-only buffs, but single target and group buffs can apply the Me tag if you only want them cast on you. The MA flag also works out of group.
The Class tag requires an additional paramater, and must follow the Class tag. Use with single target spells only. See below in the Examples.
Examples:
Buffs3=Flameshield of Ro (This will cast on everyone)
Buffs3=Flameshield of Ro|MA (This will only cast on MA)
Buffs3=Flameshield of Ro|CLASS|WAR,SK,PAL (This will only cast on Warrior, Shadow Knight, or Paladin)
 
You should be able to just use

Buffs1=Inner Fire

dont put anything after it. It should start buffing everyone in the group including the Berzerker :) Once you get group versions of your buffs then you can make changes to your setup
 
i have noticed that if i want buffs for multiple targets but dont want everyone buffed, ill just do them double. for example:
Buffs4=Clarity|Ma
Buffs5=Clarity|caster

Also started few days ago and trying to figure all these things out :)
 
I just signed up as well, the problem i am having is the cleric bot is only buffing himself and nobody else in the group. Made a thread about it but just saw this one. He heals everyone in the group like he's supposed to, just won't cast HP buff around the group. Any suggestions? **edit spelling**
 
Copied from my original post. Grabbed it straight from the ini library, but also the default one after i had generated the original /mac kissassist it had the same behavior, only buffing himself with hp buff. (I'm sorry for hijacking the thread).

INI: 
[General]
KissAssistVer=11.005
XTSlot=1
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
EQBCOn=1
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Cleric|1|FREE
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=5
Buffs1=Courage
Buffs2=Holy Armor
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
Buffs3=NULL
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
PowerSource=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSize=5
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Yaulp|98
DPS2=Strike|95
DebuffAllOn=0
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
[Heals]
HealsOn=1
HealsSize=5
Heals1=Minor Healing|80
Heals5=Divine Aura|20|cond1
AutoRezOn=0
AutoRezWith=Your Primary Rez Item/AA/Spell
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
[Burn]
BurnSize=3
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
UseTribute=0
[GoM]
GoMSize=3
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
GoMSpell3=NULL
[KConditions]
ConOn=1
CondSize=5
Cond1=${Me.CurrentMana} > 10 && ${Me.PctMana} < 10
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE
[MySpells]
Gem1=Minor Healing
Gem2=Courage
Gem3=Holy Armor
Gem5=Strike
Gem7=Divine Aura
Gem8=Yaulp
Gem4=NULL
Gem6=NULL
Gem9=NULL
Gem10=NULL
Gem11=NULL
Gem12=NULL
Gem13=NULL
[Spells]
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
CastingInterruptOn=0
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KissAssist
Gem1=Minor Healing
Gem2=Courage
Gem3=Holy Armor
Gem4=NULL
Gem5=Strike
Gem6=NULL
Gem7=Divine Aura
Gem8=Yaulp
Gem9=NULL
Gem10=NULL
Gem11=NULL
Gem12=NULL
Gem13=NULL
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=0
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
 
Will get back with you in about 3 hrs also what characters are you using, any mercs. And are the characters on the same or different computers?
 
same computer, running VV got all patched up from the redguides launcher.

i currently have a warrior (im driving), cleric, sham, druid, enchanter, and berserker. no mercs.

i queue up the EQBC (select standalone), have all the chars autoconnecting to it on login. have a profile that i setup that logs them all in.

they are all fresh level 1's until i get the kinks out and start rolling, so, they respond with healing each other and they do assist melee, just only buff themselves.

thank you in advance i appreciate it.
 
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Is everybody running KA? or kissbuffs? Same Vanilla install folder? KA requires all toons to be able to read the same kissassist_buff.ini file for who needs buffs.

Do they buff at start up? or never?
 
it's all launching from the same EQ folder, i created a profile to have them all launch at once from a single profile when you right click the MQ2 icon in the task tray.

the KA ini files for each character are all lined up in the same folder, that's where I pulled the cleric one from that i had posted.

i run the macro /mac kissassist on each character independently while targetting the tank (since it demands a target to assist)

it sounds like it may be something quite trivial like a command im missing entering at this point, not sure.

as soon as i type /mac kissassist on the cleric (while targeting my war) he will buff himself within a minute's time or so (if there is no buff or it is low on time remaining).
 
the only thing i can see that may be a problem is the conditions. I don't know how to write them so can't help you there but try turning off conditions and change
Heals5=Divine Aura|20|cond1
to Heals5=Divine Aura|20|Me
and ConOn=1 to ConOn=0
and see if that fixes it i'm not sure if
Cond1=${Me.CurrentMana} > 10 && ${Me.PctMana} < 10
is the right way or not. it's worth a try just to eliminate a possible error.
 
sure i will try it but im more than certain it was nonfunctional out of the box before i even swapped to that ini. i figured it was more likely i was entering the commands incorrectly than it being broken. will be back at the pc in a couple of hours to get back to troubleshooting hands on.

have been researching most of the day on the topic in my off time and i don't see anyone else having this type of issue which makes me think the former.
 
My answer might not be the best, but is it possible the cleric is too low on mana after the first cast so he stops casting?
 
i thought this might be a thing but even after he casts the buff on himself he'll med to full and literally just stand there until he needs to buff himself again. If i am running the /mac kissassist on that char it should just be running that ini file as the macro am i wrong in saying that? only thing I can think of is there is some reason he's not seeing the ka buffs ini file in that folder (even though it's definitely there). does another plugin need to be running other than EQBC for them to read/write to that file?
 
I know this is going to sound funny but are they all in the same group? On my group I first Autologin, then I /invite them to form a group (got a hotkey to do this). Once everyone is in the group I then have them (in an other hotkey) target tank and KissAssist him. They start buffing and all goes like its supposed to. So I was just wondering if it might be the sequence you use to group them and use KissAssist.
 
Okay so after slamming my head against a wall for mannnny hours last night I figured out what the hangup is (sort of). and you are on the right track. I got the team to start buffing each other, but only after I spam "/bca //target (charname of the tank)" and then spam the "/bca //mac kissassist" hotbuttons I created.

I started noticing that when I made those commands as hotbuttons SOMETIMES some of them would start buffing, sometimes not, and it was directly related to whether those two commands ran in sequence or at all.

I am at a point now where I have to spam those keys in order to get the whole team to cooperate, I don't know if it's lag or what but 1, 2 or even 3 of them sometimes I will just notice are standing still and I gotta re-spam the keys again to get them to engage/come to life.
 
How fast is your computer? I'm running Asus rig itx maximus impact viii 16gigs ram Intel 6600k oc to 4.3ghzs gtx 950 it runs 3 tons with no problem. I can run 6 but it gets a little laggy at times. Plan to build a rizen for the extra cores, but not anytime soon.
Might also look into running eqplaynice to lower the rendering demand on the video card.
 
runnin a i7-2600k cpu 3.4GHz w/16GB ram with a RTX2070, mobo is super old, im thinking at least 6y/o maybe 7 at this point. definitely overdue for a new build, something i've been pricing out recently.

was looking at possibly implementing some new plugins to help automate some things for me / make things easier.
 
Ya try eqplaynice and see if it helps the demand on the cpu. Your GPU looks fine.
 
thank you for the tip, i'll check it out, i hope someone else learns from this experience too. turns out it was not necessarily something not working as much as it was caused by an outside variable (lag of commands executing across the toons)
 
Have you tried setting the roles of your characters using the group window? Alot of times I have funniness going on, that is the reason. Set your tank as main tank and assist and puller in the group window.
 
that was one of the things i recently setup during that time, the autogroup autoaccept stuff. i'm sure it helped as well!
 
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