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Plugin - MQ2Druid 3.1.52471.11

Hiya Sic, any word on the BYOS use of Arboreal Absolution? Feel like I'm the one messing up if no one else has reported.

Running an offbeat pal/dru/enc group though and figured it'd be helpful for a few more expansions.
 
Hiya Sic, any word on the BYOS use of Arboreal Absolution? Feel like I'm the one messing up if no one else has reported.

Running an offbeat pal/dru/enc group though and figured it'd be helpful for a few more expansions.
no, otherwise there'd have been notes =p

the 120 one works as expected every time

it is something to do with how the spell is made differently than "every other single fucking spell we use" and some side case that isn't being accounted for, or something that is failing, or some eq nuance that isn't working.

when i have a fix/update/whatever, it'll be there
 
Hey Sic,

I'm playing a level 95 druid. I have my druid in DPS loadout. The plugin is loading the lvl 74 dot Sunscorch instead of the lvl 94 dot of the same name Sunscorch. I have tried moving both spells around in my spell book. Iv also tried loading the level 94 with BYOS turned on. It wont cast.

Also, thank you for all your plugins they have been amazing!
 
Hey Sic,

I'm playing a level 95 druid. I have my druid in DPS loadout. The plugin is loading the lvl 74 dot Sunscorch instead of the lvl 94 dot of the same name Sunscorch. I have tried moving both spells around in my spell book. Iv also tried loading the level 94 with BYOS turned on. It wont cast.

Also, thank you for all your plugins they have been amazing!
Okies will take a look, thanks!
 
Not sure if this is intended or not, but the AA Swarm of Fireflies is casting on the assist's target rather than on the tank and ends up being wasted.
 
Not sure if this is intended or not, but the AA Swarm of Fireflies is casting on the assist's target rather than on the tank and ends up being wasted.
Hmm, it's casting on the MT in my group in LS zones with tank as MT/MA every time. Not sure but you might need to provide some more details for Sic/CWTN to reproduce.
 
Not sure if this is intended or not, but the AA Swarm of Fireflies is casting on the assist's target rather than on the tank and ends up being wasted.
we only cast it on MA

you are probably just looking at target instead of looking at whom it is being casted upon (both in output) and in actual buff landing. we'll swap back to the mob if we have stuff to do to continue to do stuff to the mob, but we only cast it on the MA
 
Sorry, you're right. I saw it being casted without my Druid flipping targets to the tank (who is the MA in my case), but watching the MA, they are indeed getting the buff. Sorry for the false alarm!
 
MQ2Druid does not seem to want to cast Chant of the Napaea (group corruption cure from the TSS era). I have the spell memmed with BYOS Custom enabled on my level 75 Druid for fights where it is needed. However, my druid will never cast this spell.

A quick search of the forum showed a post for a similar issue with MQ2Shaman from 2022 that appears to have been corrected.
 
MQ2Druid does not seem to want to cast Chant of the Napaea (group corruption cure from the TSS era). I have the spell memmed with BYOS Custom enabled on my level 75 Druid for fights where it is needed. However, my druid will never cast this spell.

A quick search of the forum showed a post for a similar issue with MQ2Shaman from 2022 that appears to have been corrected.
need more context,

what does your "Group Cure Corruption" spell say for the spells we use
 
Here are some examples from Frostcrypt:

 
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Distillate of Clarity XXI

I was adding this to the AddClicky, Mana Self area. The toon would just continuously use the potion while the buff "Elixir of Clarity XXI" was still on.

Did I miss something?
 
Distillate of Clarity XXI

I was adding this to the AddClicky, Mana Self area. The toon would just continuously use the potion while the buff "Elixir of Clarity XXI" was still on.

Did I miss something?
Manaself is "when my mana is at/below my threshold click this".


You want downtime.
 
is there anyway to change the aura that is cast from Frostcloak Aura to Wildblaze Aura, I run a crew with mostly fire nukes and the druid herself uses fire nukes even though i have her set for mix she still insists to use fire I don;t care about what line she uses but if they are using fire then the wildblazed will be more beneficial.
Thank you Sic
 
is there anyway to change the aura that is cast from Frostcloak Aura to Wildblaze Aura, I run a crew with mostly fire nukes and the druid herself uses fire nukes even though i have her set for mix she still insists to use fire I don;t care about what line she uses but if they are using fire then the wildblazed will be more beneficial.
Thank you Sic
not currently, dbg stopped having a heal aura after 70, and stopped having new fire ones after 97, so when i was doing options and spells i didn't put in a way to pick --- unfortunately this would mean someone lvl 150 in 2035 would end up using a lvl 70 aura because they didn't notice they adjusted something

in the meantime you can turn off useaura and manuall cast it


but just want to point out - auras all have a "fall off" --- 97 wildspark aura falls off at 105, so if you're current level, you're going to be getting none-benefit
 
Is it possible for CWTN plugins, such as MQ2Druid to cancel a cast of a nuke or DoT to cast a heal? I know at higher levels, it's not as big of a deal because nukes, and especially DoTs, cast much faster, but at lower levels, it can be a bit of a problem. For example, at level 75 I was just killing a boss in which I was using my druid as my only healer. My druid chose to cast a Nature's Blazing Wrath when my tank was at 14% health and then immediately followed it up with another nuke while my tank was now at 11% health. I have my heal threshold for MA set to 60%.

It makes no sense to me that the plugin would be trying to cast nukes while the MA is so far below the heal threshold. It also seems like it would be beneficial for it to be able to cancel a cast for a nuke to cast a heal instead in the event that a tank takes a large damage spike.
 
Is it possible for CWTN plugins, such as MQ2Druid to cancel a cast of a nuke or DoT to cast a heal? I know at higher levels, it's not as big of a deal because nukes, and especially DoTs, cast much faster, but at lower levels, it can be a bit of a problem. For example, at level 75 I was just killing a boss in which I was using my druid as my only healer. My druid chose to cast a Nature's Blazing Wrath when my tank was at 14% health and then immediately followed it up with another nuke while my tank was now at 11% health. I have my heal threshold for MA set to 60%.

It makes no sense to me that the plugin would be trying to cast nukes while the MA is so far below the heal threshold. It also seems like it would be beneficial for it to be able to cancel a cast for a nuke to cast a heal instead in the event that a tank takes a large damage spike.
we check heals before we check nukes on all priest classes (and check emergency type stuff well before anything else)
 
How does that explain a druid casting 2 nukes in a row with a tank below 15% hp?
It doesn't, but I'm just responding to what information you gave.

Nature's blazing wrath and then what secondary nuke?
 
Winter’s Flame.
so for wintershock to be loaded you're either byos or you are in dps loadout (which doesn't change priorities, but wanted to point that out since you're having "tank dying due to death" issues - you might want to use heal loadout)

we check everything in the heal section (obviously varies by level and aa available and spells loaded) which is ~13 AAs (including burn ones), 9 healing spells
then before winter's flame we check ~11 AAs before we check for dots and nukes, which there are 14 dots, and 3 nukes BEFORE winter's flame so it just sounds like an unfortunate timing situation - you should swap to heal loadout and perhaps increase your heal threshold so you have more time to resolve casting.

completely unrelated, I've been having random clients in a 6 man with 500 ping vs the others with 80 or 100 or whatever
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and for me, this has - under some circumstances - caused similiar issues because the client thinks everyone is full health, and thinks the mob is safe to attack, so we do so, but from a different toon's screen that isn't the case

just something worth thinking about --- but i'd make the loadout and heal threshold adjustments and see how you fair
 
Sorry for the side question, but how do you do that ping command for each client?
 
so for wintershock to be loaded you're either byos or you are in dps loadout (which doesn't change priorities, but wanted to point that out since you're having "tank dying due to death" issues - you might want to use heal loadout)

we check everything in the heal section (obviously varies by level and aa available and spells loaded) which is ~13 AAs (including burn ones), 9 healing spells
then before winter's flame we check ~11 AAs before we check for dots and nukes, which there are 14 dots, and 3 nukes BEFORE winter's flame so it just sounds like an unfortunate timing situation - you should swap to heal loadout and perhaps increase your heal threshold so you have more time to resolve casting.

completely unrelated, I've been having random clients in a 6 man with 500 ping vs the others with 80 or 100 or whatever
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and for me, this has - under some circumstances - caused similiar issues because the client thinks everyone is full health, and thinks the mob is safe to attack, so we do so, but from a different toon's screen that isn't the case

just something worth thinking about --- but i'd make the loadout and heal threshold adjustments and see how you fair
The ping thing is an interesting point that I haven’t considered. I’ll have to look into that. The good news is that my tank didn’t actually die in this situation. I was able to swap windows to the druid quickly enough to pause the plugin, cancel the cast on my nuke, stabilize my tank with Convergence of Spirits (which was still available because MQ2Druid doesn’t seem to use it very often for some reason that I have to get figured out), and toss a couple of heals to get my tank topped off.

To be clear, this was not a large spike of damage that took my tank this low on hp. It took quite awhile to get him there. I can probably still pull up the logs for this if you’re interested. I think my druid cast a total of 5 healing spells (including I think 2 that I cast manually). My SKs self healing was able to handle most of the necessary healing which is why I was using the druid instead of my cleric for healing in the first place. I just wanted the fight to be over faster :)

For context I always run BYOS for all of my characters without exception. Some of the spell choices that the default load outs make in the level 70-75 range have been very questionable (i.e. the very low DPS stun + magic nuke for druids).

It’s possible that I’m just not the target audience for these plugins, but my experience so far has been that they play most classes well enough to kill stuff but they don’t play most classes well, at least not in the level range that I have experience with.
 
The ping thing is an interesting point that I haven’t considered. I’ll have to look into that. The good news is that my tank didn’t actually die in this situation. I was able to swap windows to the druid quickly enough to pause the plugin, cancel the cast on my nuke, stabilize my tank with Convergence of Spirits (which was still available because MQ2Druid doesn’t seem to use it very often for some reason that I have to get figured out), and toss a couple of heals to get my tank topped off.

To be clear, this was not a large spike of damage that took my tank this low on hp. It took quite awhile to get him there. I can probably still pull up the logs for this if you’re interested. I think my druid cast a total of 5 healing spells (including I think 2 that I cast manually). My SKs self healing was able to handle most of the necessary healing which is why I was using the druid instead of my cleric for healing in the first place. I just wanted the fight to be over faster :)

For context I always run BYOS for all of my characters without exception. Some of the spell choices that the default load outs make in the level 70-75 range have been very questionable (i.e. the very low DPS stun + magic nuke for druids).

It’s possible that I’m just not the target audience for these plugins, but my experience so far has been that they play most classes well enough to kill stuff but they don’t play most classes well, at least not in the level range that I have experience with.
we use convergeance of spirit as one of the first things in our "omg MA is gonna die" situation if they are under 30% health and not a corpse. I'm, sure you are, but please make sure your sk is not only MT, but also MA in your group window, it is increasingly sounding like it isn't the MA.

Since it didn't seem to heal when you expected, and it didn't use convergence of spirit - it makes me feel like there is something amiss with what your toon perceived your MA's health to be at

the 70-75 range is definitely not the primary target range, and quite frankly, dbg's sloppiness in classes linear toolkit doesn't really normalize until 85+ even on TLP that become supported with MQ - the timeline is very accelerated compared to a live expansion, so having a "smooth flow" of abilities that evolve and upgrade is important to the "feel" of the automation during the leveling process.

if you have specific spell/spellgroup feedback on things that aren't useful please feel free to share (in pm or here is fine), some spell lines for various classes fundamentally change at a point, and some spells are just wholly useless (look at wizard with their ridiculously bloated nuke toolkit)
 
we use convergeance of spirit as one of the first things in our "omg MA is gonna die" situation if they are under 30% health and not a corpse. I'm, sure you are, but please make sure your sk is not only MT, but also MA in your group window, it is increasingly sounding like it isn't the MA

the 70-75 range is definitely not the primary target range, and quite frankly, dbg's sloppiness in classes linear toolkit doesn't really normalize until 85+
SK is always set as MA for my group.
 
SK is always set as MA for my group.
Since it didn't seem to heal when you expected, and it didn't use convergence of spirit - it makes me feel like there is something amiss with what your toon perceived your MA's health to be at.

eq does (and always has) had a bug where if you zone, sometimes you have to click on someone to get updated with their health/mana, but it is usually seeing 0, not seeing something like they're full or high health --- which makes me wonder about the ping thing -

windtender's survival is checked first (which you dont get till 80)
then Survival of the fittest (78)
then conv of spirit

so if you don't have wildtender's survival AA or survival of the fittest spell

that would make conv of spirit the literal first thing we check everytime we go into the heal routine
 
Since it didn't seem to heal when you expected, and it didn't use convergence of spirit - it makes me feel like there is something amiss with what your toon perceived your MA's health to be at.

eq does (and always has) had a bug where if you zone, sometimes you have to click on someone to get updated with their health/mana, but it is usually seeing 0, not seeing something like they're full or high health --- which makes me wonder about the ping thing -

windtender's survival is checked first (which you dont get till 80)
then Survival of the fittest (78)
then conv of spirit

so if you don't have wildtender's survival AA or survival of the fittest spell

that would make conv of spirit the literal first thing we check everytime we go into the heal routine
What is the threshold for Convergence of Spirits BTW? Is it based off of your MA heal threshold or is it a static value? It’s possible that it actually cast right before I swapped to the druid’s window. My hotkey for the druid is Alt+E and my hotkey for Convergence is E so that key combo can be executed very quickly.

If the threshold is low, then it would make sense that my druid rarely casts it because I usually have the druid focused on DPS and the cleric focused on healing.
 
It is 30, which I said earlier.

So yes if the ma isn't meeting that requirement, then it wouldn't use it.

You said it never uses it. And now it might have?
 
I said it doesn't use it very often. If the threshold is 30%, then that would explain why. My tank isn't often below 30% hp.
 
Okay this bad boy girl actually saved my bacon a few times today and did fine with mana in hunter tank mode running around 105 zones in pretty much heroic gear.
 
Using the portal search window a fair bit, very handy between this and the wiz I have. Maybe add in the translocate spells? Bind and guild.
One thing I find the tool tip on the icon of the wiz ver saying groip/self/evac invaluable because the colours are not too different to my eyes, so I need to read something. So adding that to the druid ver would be helpful
 
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