Plugin - MQ2Cleric (1 Viewer) 3.1.52471.11

[Sic]

I'm now having the same problem with unfied hand of righteousness any thing will help thanks sic, i have been running BOYS to stop it spamming

well its either because mq2 is saying you don't have it and you need it (and saying it stacks) or you have someone else chain overwriting your spell with something else.

so you will have to determine if you're getting a red "could not take effect" msg in your eq output, and then determine if this is something you should then add to your blocked buffs or not.

if you are using something like druid buffs and want symbol instead of the aego line, you can /clr usesymbol on and it won't use your aego

 

[Sic]

I have read a ton, but I am new to all of this and jumped head first. Thanks for being patient, I will read that now.

keep in mind - the plugins aren't designed for granular specificity - and often times someone who "mains" something and has personal preference for things would find better use with something that they can specificy how *they* want things to work.

 

[tshadow]

Hi, has anyone else been getting crash dumps when exiting their char with plugin enabled. Just started with the latest software update? not sure if plugin or actual vanilla update causing this.

 

[Sic]

Hi, has anyone else been getting crash dumps when exiting their char with plugin enabled. Just started with the latest software update? not sure if plugin or actual vanilla update causing this.

you can pm me 1 or 2 dmps if you like.

are they actually mq2cleric.dmps or eqgame/kernelbase etc? I am unaware of any current crashes with the cwtn class plugins

keep in mind if you do pm me a couple of dmps, it is possible they have character/server information in them.

 

[Cuz]

Ty Sic and ChatWithThisName.

 

[Sic]

Ty Sic and ChatWithThisName.

you're welcome?

well i mean of course you're welcome - but i dunno for what

 

[Xunil]

keep in mind - the plugins aren't designed for granular specificity - and often times someone who "mains" something and has personal preference for things would find better use with something that they can specificy how *they* want things to work.

Sic, I get it. Was just trying to be helpful.

The reason I mentioned MA vs MT. We use a merc for tanking, they cannot be set as MA, EQ wont allow it. So, we are concerned the cleric wont heal the tank properly. Just would be nice to allow switching if they support MA vs MT.

The main goal for my wife and I is to have a full group and if I go afk, she has the bots as well as myself, and if she goes afk/bed I can turn her into an easy cleric etc. Time is short for us and eq time with kids, so we hate building a group to afk on them 10 times or have to leave early.

I am a developer and architect myself of 30 years, you are doing great work, I am impressed.

 

[Sic]

Sic, I get it. Was just trying to be helpful.

The reason I mentioned MA vs MT. We use a merc for tanking, they cannot be set as MA, EQ wont allow it. So, we are concerned the cleric wont heal the tank properly. Just would be nice to allow switching if they support MA vs MT.

The main goal for my wife and I is to have a full group and if I go afk, she has the bots as well as myself, and if she goes afk/bed I can turn her into an easy cleric etc. Time is short for us and eq time with kids, so we hate building a group to afk on them 10 times or have to leave early.

I am a developer and architect myself of 30 years, you are doing great work, I am impressed.

I understand and appreciate your thoughts. At least for the time being, we don't have any plans on changing the ma/mt part. we didn't make them with the intent to handle mercenaries and we just kept in line with "how things are" for better or worse - its definitely something we've looked at and thought about - your life will be *immeasurably* easier with a #RealDealTank same as i recommend a real cleric over a cleric merc.

someone messaged me and said i was being "edgy" in my response to you - if it came across that way my apologies - i have a cold/flu atm and people been keeping my brain pegged at 100% today since i have the brainhaze

 

[Xunil]

I am leveling one! Thanks Sic

 

[an_image]

Sic, I get it. Was just trying to be helpful.

The reason I mentioned MA vs MT. We use a merc for tanking, they cannot be set as MA, EQ wont allow it. So, we are concerned the cleric wont heal the tank properly. Just would be nice to allow switching if they support MA vs MT.

The main goal for my wife and I is to have a full group and if I go afk, she has the bots as well as myself, and if she goes afk/bed I can turn her into an easy cleric etc. Time is short for us and eq time with kids, so we hate building a group to afk on them 10 times or have to leave early.

I am a developer and architect myself of 30 years, you are doing great work, I am impressed.

Maybe a crazy idea...try doing xtarget and xtended target heals on and add the merc there. I’ve usually done that with cleric outside the teams and it keeps everyone healed (even the merc tanks and pets alive) as long as you add them to that list. Note: back in the day i paid to name the pet...so the name never changes. You can also save your xtar lists...just make sure you leave the cirst slot open for autohater.

 

[Sic]

Maybe a crazy idea...try doing xtarget and xtended target heals on and add the merc there. I’ve usually done that with cleric outside the teams and it keeps everyone healed (even the merc tanks and pets alive) as long as you add them to that list. Note: back in the day i paid to name the pet...so the name never changes. You can also save your xtar list...just make sure you leave the cirst slot open for autohater.

cwtn plugins don't care about what slot you use for xtarget - we only care that you don't have your group assist target or group tanks target target as xtarget slot

it still heals mercenaries - you just can't flag it as "MA" so it won't get the "MA" treatment

 

[an_image]

cwtn plugins don't care about what slot you use for xtarget

it still heals mercenaries - you just can't flag it as "MA" so it won't get the "MA" treatment

Yeah...i just said it’s awesome

 

[poldetson]

I appear to be having this same issue. I have a cleric outside of group (running MQ2Cleric) who will not buff anyone on his XTarget list. I've confirmed UseXTargetBuffing is on. I've rebooted my machine and disabled my anti-virus.

As soon as I add the cleric to the group, he starts buffing everyone. All toons are on the same machine. I've waited well over 30 seconds to see if the buff would occur.

 

[Sic]

I appear to be having this same issue. I have a cleric outside of group (running MQ2Cleric) who will not buff anyone on his XTarget list. I've confirmed UseXTargetBuffing is on. I've rebooted my machine and disabled my anti-virus.

As soon as I add the cleric to the group, he starts buffing everyone. All toons are on the same machine. I've waited well over 30 seconds to see if the buff would occur.

This previous issue was PC-related.

I would double check you are not invis (unless you have a camp set), you have usextargetbuffing turned on and your xtarget window isn't bugged - eq/mq2 still has an issue where if you do a /echo ${Me.XTarget} sometimes it thinks you have mobs on there when you don't. This would prevent you from doing buffing. this can happen if you load xtargets without them being in the zone i've seen. you will need to do a /reloadui or /loadskin default to reload your ui and see if that fixes you if you are having the xtarget window issue

 

[poldetson]

I've ensured I wasn't invisible (/makemevisible), confirmed with /status.

I've issued commands: /clr mode 0; /clr mode 1 to set a camp.

I've removed all toons from my xtarget window and then issued /loadskin default. ${Me.XTarget} returned 0.

I've added the toon (standing next to me) to the xtarget window. (${Me.XTarget} now returns 1).

I stripped off all buffs on the receiving toon just to ensure there wasn't a conflict.


The cleric still won't buff. Any other ideas? I've moved the PC into different slots on the xtarget window also in an attempt to see if that changed anything. Strangely enough, it looks like I'm doing essentially the exact same thing as you are with my SK in a lower slot in the XTarget Window.

 

[Sic]

I've ensured I wasn't invisible (/makemevisible), confirmed with /status.

I've issued commands: /clr mode 0; /clr mode 1 to set a camp.

I've removed all toons from my xtarget window and then issued /loadskin default. ${Me.XTarget} returned 0.

I've added the toon (standing next to me) to the xtarget window. (${Me.XTarget} now returns 1).

I stripped off all buffs on the receiving toon just to ensure there wasn't a conflict.


The cleric still won't buff. Any other ideas? I've moved the PC into different slots on the xtarget window also in an attempt to see if that changed anything. Strangely enough, it looks like I'm doing essentially the exact same thing as you are with my SK in a lower slot in the XTarget Window.

mode doesn't matter (outside of only breaking invis if you have a camp set)
does /echo ${CWTN.UseXTargetBuffing} return TRUE?
position in the xtarget window doesn't matter.

are you sure the other characters are running mq2cwtnbuffs?

 

[Sic]

I sent you a pm

 

[Sic]

@poldetson was very generous with his time today so we spent some time and figured out the issue!

it was actually pretty hard to chase down and is a really specific circumstances - but fix will be in next update.

tl;dr bad code combined with being a level that your single target aego buff is higher than group aegolism buff

TYVM pol

definitely a "our bad"

 

[poldetson]

@poldetson was very generous with his time today so we spent some time and figured out the issue!

it was actually pretty hard to chase down and is a really specific circumstances - but fix will be in next update.

tl;dr bad code combined with being a level that your single target aego buff is higher than group aegolism buff

TYVM pol

I appreciate your time as well. Makes my EQing a whole lot better! Thank you!

 

[an_image]

Suggestion for the backlog on this plugin. I’m running a few heroic and regular (non-heroic/ftp) clerics and team heals/spells could definitely be looked into. You guys are aware how costly is to maintain accts; while popping a Krono on clerics i always near the top of the list to get the AA’s autogrants, the plugin is relying on them too much to balance group health.

In the spirit of out-of-box/simplicity it’d be nice if the plugin could detect AA grants and adjust the spell lineup if the aa‘s are not available for group heals maybe via a toggle like ya’ll did for enchanter aoe. Food for thought.

 

[Sic]

Suggestion for the backlog on this plugin. I’m running a few heroic and regular (non-heroic/ftp) clerics and team heals/spells could definitely be looked into. You guys are aware how costly is to maintain accts; while popping a Krono on clerics i always near the top of the list to get the AA’s autogrants, the plugin is relying on them too much to balance group health.

In the spirit of out-of-box/simplicity it’d be nice if the plugin could detect AA grants and adjust the spell lineup if the aa‘s are not available for group heals maybe via a toggle like ya’ll did for enchanter aoe. Food for thought.

It doesn't rely on anything over something else. It uses the thing It has available to It when it is set to use them

 

[Sic]

The game, however is designed for you to have the expected and appropriate gear and aa for the content you are doing.

 

[an_image]

The game, however is designed for you to have the expected and appropriate gear and aa for the content you are doing.

Sic ... try it and you'll see what I mean. I have a 110 Heroic SK in full snowbound and full tov drop gear (Max AA), paired up with a cleric using the same Snowbound/TOV drop gear gear, all spells available to ftp and the team keeps dying killing in camps in FM. That however doesn't happen with a T1 (not T5) cleric merc.

Running SK, 2X Berserker (CWTN), Bard, Enchanter (CTWN), Cleric (CWTN)...once it gets north of 5-6 mobs on tank the cleric script begins to struggle keeping up. It gets even worse if its just a FTP (Not heroic)...I don't disagree with your point that aa's / gear make a difference, but it's underperforming compared to a lowly merc.

Don't take my word for it...test it and you'll see.

(Full AA's it rocks my world, no doubt...without it's not optimal yet)

 

[Sic]

Sic ... try it and you'll see what I mean. I have a 110 Heroic SK in full snowbound and full tov drop gear (Max AA), paired up with a cleric using the same Snowbound/TOV drop gear gear, all spells available to ftp and the team keeps dying killing in camps in FM. That however doesn't happen with a T1 (not T5) cleric merc.

Running SK, 2X Berserker (CWTN), Bard, Enchanter (CTWN), Cleric (CWTN)...once it gets north of 5-6 mobs on tank the cleric script begins to struggle keeping up. It gets even worse if its just a FTP (Not heroic)...I don't disagree with your point that aa's / gear make a difference, but it's underperforming compared to a lowly merc.

Don't take my word for it...test it and you'll see.

(Full AA's it rocks my world, no doubt...without it's not optimal yet)

I have many ftp clerics.

Its not like the plugin says "if i don't have xyz don't do anything".

it does all the non-stuff you have exactly the same.

sounds like you should consider autogranting your cleric so you have the appropriate tool for the job you're trying to do. a 0 aa f2p toon is not the right tool

 

[burdsjm]

Sic any progress to the twin cast and splash

 

[Sic]

Sic any progress to the twin cast and splash

Spoiler

No

 

[burdsjm]

Spoiler

No

lol

 

[an_image]

I have many ftp clerics.

Its not like the plugin says "if i don't have xyz don't do anything".

it does all the non-stuff you have exactly the same.

sounds like you should consider autogranting your cleric so you have the appropriate tool for the job you're trying to do. a 0 aa f2p toon is not the right tool

Appreciate the reply, will do in due time.

 

[Cuz]

I managed to get the toons to assist me however, I have to log them on one at a time and then get on each one and type /mac kissassist with the tank targeted. I still had fun. After following the video here on how to log on all toons at the same time, I discovered that my mq2 is an app and I can not right click on it and open a character profile. I started trying to improvise and screwed up the whole thing however, after turning off my pc and re-downloading some stuff it is up and running again. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 

[Sic]

I managed to get the toons to assist me however, I have to log them on one at a time and then get on each one and type /mac kissassist with the tank targeted. I still had fun. After following the video here on how to log on all toons at the same time, I discovered that my mq2 is an app and I can not right click on it and open a character profile. I started trying to improvise and screwed up the whole thing however, after turning off my pc and re-downloading some stuff it is up and running again. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Howdy Cuz, Sorry to hear you're having issues.

mq2cleric and all the cwtn plugins do not use kissassist at all. running kissassist over mq2cleric can and will cause you issues and it is not something that you should do.

if you are having issues chasing your tank and moving around - it is likely you didn't notice the message saying you were missing meshes?

have you installed and setup mq2nav with all the meshes?

 

[Sic]

Here is the info for setting up mq2nav

 

[Cuz]

Howdy Cuz, Sorry to hear you're having issues.

mq2cleric and all the cwtn plugins do not use kissassist at all. running kissassist over mq2cleric can and will cause you issues and it is not something that you should do.

if you are having issues chasing your tank and moving around - it is likely you didn't notice the message saying you were missing meshes?

have you installed and setup mq2nav with all the meshes?

Hello Sic, yes I installed mq2nav and all the meshes and it is working fine however, I tried to make a three box group on Rizlona and kissassist will not seem to work. A plug and play program that does it all could be worth a $500, ransom.

 

[Sic]

Hello Sic, yes I installed mq2nav and all the meshes and it is working fine however, I tried to make a three box group on Rizlona and kissassist will not seem to work. A plug and play program that does it all could be worth a $500, ransom.

I'm not understanding your question.

This is the MQ2Cleric thread for the plugin MQ2Cleric - this isn't for kissassist as mentioned before.

are you saying "I'm having an issue with kissassist loading over mq2cleric?"

For the CWTN plugins we currently have MQWar, MQ2Eskay, MQ2Cleric, MQ2Berzerker, MQ2Rogue, MQ2Monk, MQ2Bst, MQ2Shaman, and MQ2Enchanter (in pre-release)

 

[Cuz]

I'm not understanding your question.

This is the MQ2Cleric thread for the plugin MQ2Cleric - this isn't for kissassist as mentioned before.

are you saying "I'm having an issue with kissassist loading over mq2cleric?"

For the CWTN plugins we currently have MQWar, MQ2Eskay, MQ2Cleric, MQ2Berzerker, MQ2Rogue, MQ2Monk, MQ2Bst, MQ2Shaman, and MQ2Enchanter (in pre-release)

No i am not saying that I am loading kissassist over mq2cleric; I understand that mq2cleric does not use kisassist. The rest of my group has been using kissassist to assist the tank which seems to run separately from mq2cleric.. My question is in regard to logging in all of my group at the same time instead of logging them in one at a time. My MQ2 icon does not allow me to pull up a profile of my characters.

 

[Cuz]

This plugin mq2cleric royally owns all! We can kill nameds in Cobalt Scar with only this running on one cleric and no J5 merc in group. Depending on what you click on will determine how the cleric heals; I tried it with splash off and on. This is like a J5 merc on roids and heals way quicker than a merc. It will fire heals on a named pull whether needed at the moment or not, which often mitigates big punches and you can click your epic balance in the middle of a heal (often at beginning of a fight if necessary) Cleric must have the old aa's from auto grant to do this (paid account). 2 things.. 1) Don't whip out your 2 hander and tank a TOV named.. Keep it practical; you wouldn't do this with 2 mercs :-) 2) Stay mindful of the cleric's mana before pulling, on a named the cleric will dump 75 - 90 percent of his mana.

 

[ChatWithThisName]

No i am not saying that I am loading kissassist over mq2cleric; I understand that mq2cleric does not use kisassist. The rest of my group has been using kissassist to assist the tank which seems to run separately from mq2cleric.. My question is in regard to logging in all of my group at the same time instead of logging them in one at a time. My MQ2 icon does not allow me to pull up a profile of my characters.

You're wanting to look into the MQ2Autologin plugin, this thread is specifically for MQ2Cleric
Here is a link to that plugin's overview page.

Utility - AutoLogin (core plugin)

2018 ESA Winner *** The old MQ2AutoLogin video has been removed, there will be a new AutoLogin Video in the future*** Here is one @grimmier made until RG has their new Official AutoLogin Vid MQ2AutoLogin is a core Macroquest plugin that...

www.redguides.com

 

[Sic]

This plugin mq2cleric royally owns all! We can kill nameds in Cobalt Scar with only this running on one cleric and no J5 merc in group. Depending on what you click on will determine how the cleric heals; I tried it with splash off and on. This is like a J5 merc on roids and heals way quicker than a merc. It will fire heals on a named pull whether needed at the moment or not, which often mitigates big punches and you can click your epic balance in the middle of a heal (often at beginning of a fight if necessary) Cleric must have the old aa's from auto grant to do this (paid account). 2 things.. 1) Don't whip out your 2 hander and tank a TOV named.. Keep it practical; you wouldn't do this with 2 mercs :-) 2) Stay mindful of the cleric's mana before pulling, on a named the cleric will dump 75 - 90 percent of his mana.

Cuz,

like cwtn said, you will want to setup autologin.

 

[Cuz]

You're wanting to look into the MQ2Autologin plugin, this thread is specifically for MQ2Cleric
Here is a link to that plugin's overview page.

Utility - AutoLogin (core plugin)

2018 ESA Winner *** The old MQ2AutoLogin video has been removed, there will be a new AutoLogin Video in the future*** Here is one @grimmier made until RG has their new Official AutoLogin Vid MQ2AutoLogin is a core Macroquest plugin that...

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Hello CWTN, and thank you. I will tinker with this. By the way, can you get the cleric epic rez or any other rez that takes ten full seconds out of the lineup for in fight things to do. This alone will wipe a group :-) Yes we can turn it off but if this accidentally gets turned on your customers may question why you put this in (haha)
Congrats on the success of MQ2Cleric, tc
Cuz

 

[Sic]

Hello CWTN, and thank you. I will tinker with this. By the way, can you get the cleric epic rez or any other rez that takes ten full seconds out of the lineup for in fight things to do. This alone will wipe a group :-) Yes we can turn it off but if this accidentally gets turned on your customers may question why you put this in (haha)
Congrats on the success of MQ2Cleric, tc
Cuz

no - we won't be forcing people's options to differ from what they they save them as.

If you don't want to use the epic rez, you can turn it off.

if someone turns it on, then they want it on.

 

[Cuz]

no - we won't be forcing people's options to differ from what they they save them as.

If you don't want to use the epic rez, you can turn it off.

if someone turns it on, then they want it on.

Default is on sir. Your conscience will be the rule and guide of your actions.
Cuz