Plugin - MQ2Cleric (4 Viewers) 3.1.52471.11

[Sic]

So is there a way to set it to try and res someone two times then not try after that? Lots of times folks afk after dying and the cleric is chain casting
rez. Maybe for raid mode at lease? )

nah, not at this time maybe in the future

if its told to rez, its gonna try and rez - you can manually hide corpses of people you don't want to try and rez or can turn off rezzing - no real quick solution for you unfortunately due to people afk / not accepting rezzes

 

[DarkPaladin]

Roger that. Thanks

 

[Jalerian]

My cleric has suddenly starting to use single target Gallantry rk. II to buff pets. He casts it on the pets after he has just cast Hand of Gallantry rk. II...Therefore, the pets already have the spell he is casting on them (because of AA that has group spells land on pets). Is there anyway to avoid this wastage of mana?

 

[Sic]

My cleric has suddenly starting to use single target Gallantry rk. II to buff pets. He casts it on the pets after he has just cast Hand of Gallantry rk. II...Therefore, the pets already have the spell he is casting on them (because of AA that has group spells land on pets). Is there anyway to avoid this wastage of mana?

you could block the single target buff on the pet.

the reason we have to check the pets for single target stuff is there's no way to know if other pet can receive group buffs (because pets get that through their owner's AA, so we cast group buffs on the full team, then check pets - if mq2 says that the buff stacks and the pet needs it - we cast it on them. in this case either a: the pet was created after the group buff went out, b: didn't receive the group buff, or c: mq2 says that the pet can have the buff - in which case we're going to cast it.

Edited to add:
Yup - its just a spell that mq2 says that you need (because it will overwrite)




Later on EQ changes their spells that the ST and the group version both cast the same spell - which then avoids this


but yeah i can definitely see how annoying that is - unfortunately not really something we can do specifically about it because of how the spells are made - without hard coding a bunch of checks against other stuff specifically to code around it mq2 says it stacks, and you need it - so we cast it

 

[jsr09]

So running into an issue with mq2cleric and mq2bst. My cleric and bst will buff initially but will not cast buffs if they've faded or rezed.

 

[Sic]

So running into an issue with mq2cleric and mq2bst. My cleric and bst will buff initially but will not cast buffs if they've faded or rezed.

never heard that before - are you sure you're not invis without a camp set at that point?

When we buff:
the person receiving the buffs is a local character on cwtnbuffs and
during downtime (no mobs on xtarget) and
if you are not in byos mode
if you are not invis, unless you have a camp set
and the person we're checking can receive the buff (not blocked, mq2 says it stacks, etc)

there was an eq bug recently where you didn't have mobs on xtarget, but mq2/eq thought you did - check if this is the case /echo ${Me.XTarget}. if this returns 1, but you don't have any mobs on xtarget, you need to restart EQ

since you're saying it is happening to *both* your cleric and bst, i suspect it is something above.

if none of those things apply

please tell me the following:

class:
class lvl:
confirm byos is off:
confirm that characters are local with cwtnbuffs loaded:
confirm you are not invis:
confirm you are out of combat / no xtarget / not fighting:
what spell are you expecting to be cast?:
then from bottom to top, spell gem by spell gem, i want' you to right-click to unmemorize that gem, and then tell me if any don't get re-memorized.
[code]

 

[jsr09]

Could the issue be because its a single target buff?

 

[Sic]

Could the issue be because its a single target buff?

You said both your clr and bst stopped buffing after initially buffing and deaths.

so I gave you a bunch of stuff to check, and a list to answer if those things are true.

Single buffs, group buffs, self buffs - all are checked the same way that i listed

you're gonna have to help me help you

 

[jsr09]

Clr
112
BYOS is off
not sure what you mean as far as local with cwtnbuffs loaded
not invis
not in combat
Group righteousness
and all spell gems ge memorrized

 

[Sic]

Clr
112
BYOS is off
not sure what you mean as far as local with cwtnbuffs loaded
not invis
not in combat
Group righteousness
and all spell gems ge memorrized

the characters that you are looking to buff need to be locally running on your computer with mq2cwtnbuffs loaded. this is how we check their current buffs, blocked buffs, and what buffs are going to stack with them. We don't buff on characters that are not local on your computer and running cwtnbuffs.

I explain that in the mq2cleric video > HERE <. I would definitely give the mq2cleric video a watch as it goes over this stuff.

3:05 - MQ2CWTNBuffs
5:24 - Settings Tab
13:22 - XtargetHealing
18:29 - Healing Value Settings
22:35 - Spell Lineup
26:40 - Opinions/Suggestions/Blathering

but back to your issue - are those other characters local on your pc that the cleric and beastlord is loaded on?

 

[jsr09]

thank you!

 

[njk70]

@Sic has any thought been given to a buffs monitoring solution that isn't limited to characters running on the same machine. My current setup is weird and is effectively two different machines. I saw earlier netbots plugin which provided some way to monitor characters over eqbcs but maybe isn't working so great. I know I am an outlier case so understand if thats just not an issue of interest to address. Or maybe a way in the ini file to specify the path to the file to use, i might be able to get a shared file space between the machines but that might be hokey. Didn't mean to derail your problem solving, just perked up my ears when I realized things might be working as well as they could be on my setup.

 

[Sic]

@Sic has any thought been given to a buffs monitoring solution that isn't limited to characters running on the same machine. My current setup is weird and is effectively two different machines. I saw earlier netbots plugin which provided some way to monitor characters over eqbcs but maybe isn't working so great. I know I am an outlier case so understand if thats just not an issue of interest to address. Or maybe a way in the ini file to specify the path to the file to use, i might be able to get a shared file space between the machines but that might be hokey. Didn't mean to derail your problem solving, just perked up my ears when I realized things might be working as well as they could be on my setup.

nah not a derail.

yes of course we've thought about it, but we don't have that solution now or any time on the visible horizon. We've spent a ton of time trying to solve that, and settled on what we have for the time being.

You definitely don't want to try and share the file across your network, you'll end up with poopy results trying that

 

[njk70]

nah not a derail.

yes of course we've thought about it, but we don't have that solution now or any time on the visible horizon. We've spent a ton of time trying to solve that, and settled on what we have for the time being.

You definitely don't want to try and share the file across your network, you'll end up with poopy results trying that

Its not actually across the network, like I said its a weird setup due to the kind of work i do and sharing machines with other IT/Software Engineering projects I do professionally. Hopefully I'll get this all moved onto a dedicated machine in the not too distant future (my kids stole my spare machines for online education so they didn't have to use the crappy chromebooks the schools gave out).

 

[Sic]

Its not actually across the network, like I said its a weird setup due to the kind of work i do and sharing machines with other IT/Software Engineering projects I do professionally. Hopefully I'll get this all moved onto a dedicated machine in the not too distant future (my kids stole my spare machines for online education so they didn't have to use the crappy chromebooks the schools gave out).

tl;dr each toon is writing their infos into a file - let's say its "sic" it would be sic_buffs.ini - the buffing toon checks their mq2directory release folder that that sic_buffs.ini file and then checks out the information from that file. every so often Sic reupdates his sic_buffs.ini file - so if your toons can easily read/write to that file in the directory without using something like one drive or sharing or something else that would cause delays or hiccups etc, you're fine - but if you try and do cloud stuff or over network copying the file any time it changes, you'll probably end up with poopy results.
hopefully that helps

 

[njk70]

tl;dr each toon is writing their infos into a file - let's say its "sic" it would be sic_buffs.ini - the buffing toon checks their mq2directory release folder that that sic_buffs.ini file and then checks out the information from that file. every so often Sic reupdates his sic_buffs.ini file - so if your toons can easily read/write to that file in the directory without using something like one drive or sharing or something else that would cause delays or hiccups etc, you're fine - but if you try and do cloud stuff or over network copying the file any time it changes, you'll probably end up with poopy results.
hopefully that helps

I might try but I think it would only work if I could specify a path outside where these instances are installed, anything trickier probably would be poopy as you eloquently put it My time would probably be better spent fixing my setup to be "normal" especially adding a 5th toon soon.

 

[crs399]

So far not impressed with this plugin. Love MQ2zerker and started using the shaman version both work great. Cleric however does not seem to keep up at the same level as some of the KAs with CoV mobs/missions. I’ve watched the video and checked the appropriate boxes is there anything else I can do to make this more aggressive?

 

[Sic]

So far not impressed with this plugin. Love MQ2zerker and started using the shaman version both work great. Cleric however does not seem to keep up at the same level as some of the KAs with CoV mobs/missions. I’ve watched the video and checked the appropriate boxes is there anything else I can do to make this more aggressive?

I would check your heal values - they are separated with MA and notMA heal values.

so if for some reason you never assigned your tank as MA, then he would be getting healed at the notMA values.

now to be clear - definitely ensure you're not standing in front of the dragons taking frontal damage/cone and dying.

they mission AoEs are also a bit overtuned atm and will be tuned down.

but hearing that outside of those things it doesn't keep up - that's the first time we've heard that.

 

[crs399]

I would check your heal values - they are separated with MA and notMA heal values.

so if for some reason you never assigned your tank as MA, then he would be getting healed at the notMA values.

now to be clear - definitely ensure you're not standing in front of the dragons taking frontal damage/cone and dying.

they mission AoEs are also a bit overtuned atm and will be tuned down.

but hearing that outside of those things it doesn't keep up - that's the first time we've heard that.

@Sic Thank you I didn’t assign tank for MA. Is this the assignment in game like assigning main assist, tank puller etc? or is it thru MQ2Cleric?

 

[Sic]

@Sic Thank you I didn’t assign tank for MA. Is this the assignment in game like assigning main assist, tank puller etc? or is it thru MQ2Cleric?

its in your group window via everquest. you can use mq2autogroup to set those settings.

our cwtn tank classes (eskay and war) will auto set themselves to tank/ma if they're group leader and in tanking mode - but otherwise you'll want to just have something to ensure your roles are set - i have an autogroup info vid in my signature if that helps.

 

[Myysterio]

My cleric is FREQUENTLY getting stuck spell gems. I have checkstuckspellgems on and not sure quite whatelse to do.

 

[Sic]

My cleric is FREQUENTLY getting stuck spell gems. I have checkstuckspellgems on and not sure quite whatelse to do.

did you check the FAQ?

This almost certainly means you have your background fps too low.

I misread your msg - you were asking about stuck spell gems - the eq bug. Sorry.

 

[Myysterio]

did you check the FAQ?

This almost certainly means you have your background fps too low.

the spellbook thing is addressed in each of the FAQ of each of the plugins. it is 99% likely that it is a *you* issue and not a plugin issue.

Unfortunately, if you have too low of a background fps set, and "instructions are missed" or whatnot - mq2 won't be able to report back the correct information about it. The is the same thing that will happen with follow or nav or even combat routine skipping stuff when your background fps is too low - just in this instance, we're not being given correct information about the state of your window.

Q. I sometimes get stuck in my spell book?
A. This is often due to your background fps not being high enough. It is strongly advised to utilize at LEAST 30 fps for background, recommended 60+ background fps. The fps cycle for eq is where "work" is done. If your background fps is set to "min" you can and will have undesired results with all sorts of automation activities.
Alt-O -> Display -> Advanced - > Max Background FPS

what is your alt-o in game background fps set to? do you have isboxer limit your background frames, or other software?
those should be 60+ otherwise you're likely going to run into those issues i spoke about.
eq does "work" during the fps cycle - if it is set too low --- work is skipped. the normal memming kicks you out of your book - and we check if the book is open more faster than you can count.

but if you are in manual mode - and the instruction after you memorized a spell was skipped due to your low frame rate - then you can and will get skipped because manual mode only takes you out of the book if you memorized a spell - if you manually open the book, then we don't kick you out - so if your frames being too low skips that communication and you're in manual mode - you're gonna be chilling in the book because it looks like you wanted to be in the book.

tl;dr - you need to check your in game fps settings in your alt-o window -> advanced as well as check what you have isboxer limiting your frames to.

limiting background frames is sweet for boxing - until you need them to do automation. since you already run eqwire you shouldn't need to limit those frames anyhow - eqwire just makes it not "draw" the stuff, but the "fps cycle" still occurs

I adjusted it, but the headache is i am not stuck in my spellbook. I could have read your faq 30 times and never known that. My cleric is just standing there with blacked out spell gems. I gotta hit group ITU to make the spells unlock.

 

[Myysterio]

also, I have autoforage on my cleric, so she'll occasionally stand up to forage and forget to sit back down. Im indoors so there's no mounts.

 

[Sic]

I adjusted it, but the headache is i am not stuck in my spellbook. I could have read your faq 30 times and never known that. My cleric is just standing there with blacked out spell gems. I gotta hit group ITU to make the spells unlock.

yeah that's not sutck in your spellbook - I misread your post. Sorry

we *have* stuck gems check in the caster plugins (its an eqbug with quicktime).

did you turn it off? /clr checkforstuckgems on

we use yaulp if we detect your spell gems are stuck. --- you might also just turn on usemelee and have the cleric in an assist mode, so they use some of their other AAs - but im not seeing a reason why you wouldn't do the stuckgem thing - unless you turned it off (which you said you didn't) or its broken in a different way than it was before and our check no longer works)

unfortunately, it has been over a year and dbg hasn't fixed it - they've even repeatedly said that they have fixed it heh.

 

[Myysterio]

yeah that's not sutck in your spellbook - I misread your post. Sorry

we *have* stuck gems check in the caster plugins (its an eqbug with quicktime).

did you turn it off? /clr checkforstuckgems on

we use yaulp if we detect your spell gems are stuck.

unfortunately it has been over a year and dbg hasn't fixed it - they've even repeatedly said that they have fixed it heh.

I set it to on. Should it be off?

 

[Sic]

The other alternative is to stop using quicktime which is a poopy solution to a poopy problem.

but yeah, its not mq2cleric's fault - its a dbg fault that's been over a year now

 

[Sic]

I set it to on. Should it be off?

it should be on if you want it to check for stuck spell gems. (you also want to not be in manual mode)

 

[Myysterio]

it should be on if you want it to check for stuck spell gems. (you also want to not be in manual mode)

For a cleric, it should be assist mode?

 

[Myysterio]

The other alternative is to stop using quicktime which is a poopy solution to a poopy problem.

but yeah, its not mq2cleric's fault - its a dbg fault that's been over a year now

I dont have quicktime installed on this laptop. F apple in the A

 

[Sic]

For a cleric, it should be assist mode?

well assist mode sits you down and returns to a camp between pulls - it doesn't mean you have to be meleeing and such. if you have usemelee off its not going to melee.

Mode:
/clr mode - Manual|Assist|Chase|Vorpal 0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8
Has access to all of the CWTN plugin "Modes"
(Only difference for cleric in manual or an assist mode is it will only break invis if it has a camp set - so manual mode will not break invis to heal)
Mode 0 - Manual --- Manual
Mode 1 - Assist --- assist your MA and returns to camp
Mode 2 - ChaseAssist --- chases and assists your MA
Mode 3 - Vorpal Mode (Assist but no camp or chase)
Mode 4 - Tank --- tank stuff
Mode 5 - PullerTank --- pull and then tank
Mode 6 - Puller Assist pull and then assist MA
Mode 7 - SicTank Mode --- sets a camp, and does tank stuff, but doesn't return/sit down
Mode 8 - Hunter Tank mode --- runs around and kills stuff

 

[Sic]

I dont have quicktime installed on this laptop. F apple in the A

quicktime is a bard AA.

I absolutely do not mean the quick time player sticks your spell gems.

 

[Myysterio]

quicktime is a bard AA.

I absolutely do not mean the quick time player sticks your spell gems.

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My bard is in POK.... not with my cleric.

 

[Sic]

My bard is in POK.... not with my cleric.

well I can't speak for daybreak as to exactly ALL the things that sticks the gems - I just know it is a frequent issue with quick time. And according to some of the follow eq threads - can happen while casting items as well

EQ Thread
EQ Thread
EQ Thread
EQ Thread
EQ Thread
Anotherone
EQ Aug Patch Notes

- Corrected an issue that periodically caused the spell bar to become locked out, either after activating an item or while casting spells with the highest ranks of the Bard AA ability Quick Time active.

 

[asmotic]

I might try but I think it would only work if I could specify a path outside where these instances are installed, anything trickier probably would be poopy as you eloquently put it My time would probably be better spent fixing my setup to be "normal" especially adding a 5th toon soon.

@njk70 - Just saw post, and even though this is a little late in responding thought i'd mention what I do. My crew is "currently" all on a single machine, however I used to have them split up over a couple machines. I ended up installing MQ and all related files onto a Dropbox which I shared between all the computers. Even was able to use this setup when I was over at a buddy's place playing on a laptop. If you still have trouble, might be worth a try.

Note: with every zone Nav Meshed it does push the Dropbox to a little over 2Gig, which I think is the limit of the free account. So you wouldn't be able to use the Dropbox for anything else. hehe. Good luck!

 

[Redbot]

Redbot updated MQ2Cleric with a new update entry:

12/21/2020

- Color'd the heal input boxes.

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[Dallas41]

My cleric mems the rez spell instead of using the AA. Any way to have the cleric use blessing of rez instead of a spell?

 

[Sic]

My cleric mems the rez spell instead of using the AA. Any way to have the cleric use blessing of rez instead of a spell?

The only time we memorize the rez spell is if you don't have blessing of resurrection and you don't have epic 1.0

 

[Redbot]

quicktime is a bard AA.

I absolutely do not mean the quick time player sticks your spell gems.

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[Dallas41]

The only time we memorize the rez spell is if you don't have blessing of resurrection and you don't have epic 1.0

My cleric has the AA. I manually use it all the time. It may use the AA during combat, I don't watch the cleric at this time, but in the lobby when I have to corpse summon it uses the spell.