Problem - [Mostly Solved] Bard Lies about Mez

[chronosv]

Version of KissAssist.mac?

12.002

When did your problem start?

Tonight (10/21/2025)

Character Role?

1. Puller

What class is having this issue?

1. Bard

How often does this issue occur?

Always

Can you reproduce the issue?

Unfortunately. I set the Mez section. The bard claims to Mez, but it most certainly does not. It begins the Mez song and immediately cancels within a fraction of a second. It then announces to the group that the non-mezzed mob is mezzed.

Basically the title. I have a 76 bard. It's set to be the puller for my group. The actual pulling works great. Pulls with Bellow as instructed, comes back to camp. Rarely any issues with that. However, when it pulls more than 1 mob, it will come back to the group, wait for MA to get aggro on one, then begin to sign my Mez song. It will immediately interrupt that song before it even has a chance to land (or not) and then it will announce that it successfully mezzed while the mob beats the shit out of my group.

This problem started when I got Amber's Last Lullaby as my new Mez song. Everything was working perfectly until then. The only thing I changed was that song. Now it's totally messed up. I deleted my INI, recreated it, rebooted my computer. I've tried everything I can think of but nothing has worked. I even switched it back to my lower Mez song, and it no longer works.

Here is my INI output:

; ==========================================================
; Bard — Level 76 — Puller / coolest bard second to fansy 69420
; Goals: single-target mez (Amber’s), Bellow only for pulls,
; ==========================================================

[General]
KissAssistVer=12.002
CharInfo=Bard|76|FREE

; --- Role & camp behavior ---
Role=Puller
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
CampRadius=40
CampRadiusExceed=400

; --- Med / endurance ---
MedOn=1
MedStart=15
MedStop=100
MedCombat=0

; --- Safety / QoL ---
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
GroupWatchCheck=Cond_HoldCamp
CorpseRecoveryOn=1
RezAcceptOn=1|96
LootOn=0
LOSBeforeCombat=1
ScatterOn=0
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=0
CampfireOn=0

; --- Networking ---
EQBCOn=0
DanNetOn=1
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
UseSpawnMaster=0
XTSlot=0

; Twist stuff
TwistOn=1
TwistMed=3 4 6 7 8
TwistWhat=2 3 4 6 7 8 10


; ==========================================================
; BUFFS — minimal; keep nag-dismiss
; ==========================================================
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
BuffsSize=2
Buffs1=NULL
; Click off F2P nag if it pops
Buffs2=command:/notify AlertWnd ALW_Dismiss_Button leftmouseup
PowerSource=NULL

; ==========================================================
; MELEE — keep range > camp radius so you don’t rubber-band
; ==========================================================
[Melee]
MeleeOn=1
AssistAt=98
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=60
StickHow=snaproll rear
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=1
MeleeTwistOn=0
; Intentionally leaving this blank because I want the twist above to handle it...which has always worked before
MeleeTwistWhat=DPS twist order here
PetTauntOverride=0

; ==========================================================
; DPS — keep light; do NOT use Bellow here (pull-only)
; ==========================================================
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSize=4
DPSInterval=4
DPSSkip=20
DPS1=Kick|99|Mash
DPS2=NULL
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DebuffAllOn=0

; ==========================================================
; MEZ — single-target mez only (no AE mez), Amber’s as primary
; ==========================================================
[Mez]
MezOn=2
MezRadius=70
MezMinLevel=NULL

MezMaxLevel=90
MezStopHPs=80
MezSpell=Vulka's Lullaby
MezDebuffOnResist=0
MezDebuffSpell=NULL
MezAESpell=NULL

; ==========================================================
; AE — disabled (no AE mez, no AE songs forced here)
; ==========================================================
[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=2
AERadius=45
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL

; ==========================================================
; AGGRO — Fade tool not purchased with AAs yet
; ==========================================================
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=1
Aggro1=NULL

; ==========================================================
; BURN — simple and safe
; ==========================================================
[Burn]
BurnAllNamed=1
UseTribute=0
BurnSize=3
Burn1=Puretone Discipline
Burn2=Deftdance Discipline
Burn3=Intensity of the Resolute
BurnTwistWhat=0

; ==========================================================
; PULL — bard puller: Bellow tag, large radius & Z, mana gates
; ==========================================================
[Pull]
PullRoleToggle=1
; Pull ONLY with Bellow (NOT in DPS twist)
PullWith=Bellow of Chaos
PullMeleeStick=0

; Geometry / reach
MaxRadius=525
MaxZRange=90
UseWayPointZ=0

; Rhythm
PullWait=4
PullRadiusToUse=95
PullOnReturn=1
PullArcWidth=0

; Pull-twist Selo's
PullTwistOn=1
PullTwistWhat=8

; Target gating
PullLevel=45|78
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=40
PullPause=30|2|Cond_PullPause
PullCond=(!${Target.ConColor.Equal[Red]} && !${Me.Snared})

[PullAdvanced]
PullLocsOn=0

; ==========================================================
; SPELLS — 10 gems; Gem10 is your flexible situational slot
; ==========================================================
[Spells]
Gem1=Vulka's Lullaby
Gem2=Largo's Assonant Binding
Gem3=Eriki's Psalm of Power
Gem4=War March of Muram
Gem5=Bellow of Chaos
Gem6=Song of Sustenance
Gem7=Cantata of Restoration
Gem8=Selo's Accelerating Chorus
Gem9=Selo's Song of Travel
Gem10=Psalm of Veeshan


MiscGem=10
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist

; CRITICAL: Do NOT interrupt mez casts
CastingInterruptOn=0


; ==========================================================
; HEALS / CURES — not used here
; ==========================================================
[Heals]
HealsOn=0
HealInterval=0
HealsSize=1
Heals1=NULL
AutoRezOn=0
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=NULL
HealGroupPetsOn=0
RezMeLast=0
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50

[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL

; ==========================================================
; MERC / AFK
; ==========================================================
[Merc]
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window

[AFKTools]
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game

; ==========================================================
; CONDITIONS — camp hold / pull pause / mana gates
; ==========================================================
[KConditions]
ConOn=1
CondSize=16

; --- Camp-safety hold ---
Cond_HoldCamp=${Me.Snared} || ${Group.AnyoneMissing} || ${Me.Buff[Resurrection Sickness].ID} || ${Me.Buff[Revival Sickness].ID}

; --- Example mana gate for your healer/casters (adjust names if you want strict checks) ---
; Stop new pulls if ANY are low:
; - SK < 20% mana
; - Cleric < 25% mana
; - Druid < 25% mana
Cond_ManaGate=${Group.Member[Othername].PctMana}<20 \
|| ${Group.Member[Healername].PctMana}<25 \
|| ${Group.Member[Druidname].PctMana}<25

; Pause pulls if camp is scuffed, you’re snared, OR the mana gate is tripped
Cond_PullPause=${Cond_HoldCamp} || ${Me.Snared} || ${Cond_ManaGate}

; AE logic placeholders (kept false since AE mez is disabled)
Cond_AE_MezOK=FALSE

; Placeholders
Cond_TRUE=TRUE
Cond_FALSE=FALSE
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE
Cond6=TRUE
Cond7=TRUE
Cond8=TRUE
Cond9=TRUE
Cond10=TRUE
Cond11=TRUE
Cond12=TRUE
Cond13=TRUE
Cond14=TRUE
Cond15=TRUE
Cond16=TRUE

 

[Sic]

Please take care not to post your toon name. Posting toon name and server you might as well ask dbg for a ban

 

[chronosv]

Noted! That makes sense.

Given that I have tried several steps unsuccessfully I'm wondering if there are suggested troubleshooting steps that I should take? I'm pretty new to this. I only started playing EQ and using MQ a couple weeks ago. I've read all of the KissAssist documentation and searched through forum posts, but I couldn't find anything related to this specific issue.

It's frustrating because when I first started...from level 1-50, the bard would not mez at all. Then, I read some more documentation and finally got it working and she would mez perfectly from level 51-75. Now, at level 76, all I did was change the song name and it broke everything.

 

[Caddylax]

Is the mob in the level range for the mez to land? Or possibly not even mezzable? Or out of range for that version? Just my guesses from playing a bard.

 

[Motojeff]

Although it should work just fine with it set to 0, Maybe try setting casting interrupts to something like 6 and see if it acts different.

there is a note in the kissassist wiki about advanced options:

"You can now determine the interrupt(s) you want checked. Using 1 in the INI file turns on all Interrupts by defaulting CastingInterruptOn=62.
Each Interrupt check has been given a value:
Buffs = 2, Heals = 4, DPS = 8, Mez = 16 and Cures = 32
By doing this you are now able to control any of the interrupts you want turned on.
To turn on more than one interrupt simply add the values together.

Example:
To Interrupt Mezzing(16) and DPS(8) set CastingInterruptOn=24 To Interrupt Buffing(2) and Heals(4) set CastingInterruptOn=6 To Interrupt Just Mezzing(16) set CastingInterruptOn=16"

or maybe the dps kick mash call is causing it? maybe try |99 instead of |mash?

 

[chronosv]

I'm not sure what did it, but I did wipe out my DPS section and I let MQ2Melee handle kick now. I deleted my INI files for that character, restarted the game, loaded KA, and then edited my INI back to mostly the same. It's working now. Wondering if the kick mash was the problem...but I've had that in there forever...

 

[chronosv]

I spoke too soon. As soon as I switched it back to Amber's Last Lullaby, it broke again. There is something odd about this particular mez song. Has anyone else gotten Mez to work using this song?

 

[Sic]

wonder if it is related to this

ItemDisplay - Spell information for "special ruleset" servers reports normal information · Issue #667 · macroquest/macroquest

some ruleset servers get special adjustment to spells, but mq appears to still be reporting the "normal/standard" spell information on vaniki with special ruleset this spell, for example, will work...

github.com

are you on a special ruleset server?

 

[dal98]

It is a wind instrument, compared to singing...does your character have appropriate wind skills? Do you have an armor piece with a wind skill modifier on it?

 

[Motojeff]

Skill Wind maybe?

 

[chronosv]

OMFG, the one skill I suck at. I bet that's it because I just downgraded to Queen Eletyl's Screech and it works perfectly. I will level up wind and see if that fixes it. Holy hell. I'm also on Drinal which, I think, is just a boring normal server.

 

[hackzimus]

OMFG, the one skill I suck at. I bet that's it because I just downgraded to Queen Eletyl's Screech and it works perfectly. I will level up wind and see if that fixes it. Holy hell. I'm also on Drinal which, I think, is just a boring normal server.

A friendly heads up to make sure you're in /role or /anon.

 

[reedreddington]

A friendly heads up to make sure you're in /role or /anon.

I felt this in my core. I have 3 bards for.... reasons..... and every time I forget to be on /role or /anon one of the big guilds on the server will have a recruiter sending me a tell. I finally had to just set every toon to /role just to stop the tells.

 

[chronosv]

I felt this in my core. I have 3 bards for.... reasons..... and every time I forget to be on /role or /anon one of the big guilds on the server will have a recruiter sending me a tell. I finally had to just set every toon to /role just to stop the tells.

Why is that? I put all of my chars in /anon after that post, but I kind of assumed that all the guilds on my server would be good at this point. I played a bard from launch through OoW when I quit, and I was very busy, but coming back after so long I kind of expected there to not be a shortage of them since they are, as I'm sure you are aware, the best class by far.

 

[Sic]

Why is that? I put all of my chars in /anon after that post, but I kind of assumed that all the guilds on my server would be good at this point. I played a bard from launch through OoW when I quit, and I was very busy, but coming back after so long I kind of expected there to not be a shortage of them since they are, as I'm sure you are aware, the best class by far.

to /anon is sus, to /role is sus, to not do anything is sus - it all depends on who is looking for sus.

please let's not turn this into a baspend thread.

 

[reedreddington]

Why is that? I put all of my chars in /anon after that post, but I kind of assumed that all the guilds on my server would be good at this point. I played a bard from launch through OoW when I quit, and I was very busy, but coming back after so long I kind of expected there to not be a shortage of them since they are, as I'm sure you are aware, the best class by far.

All the big guilds are recruiting bards - on my server anyway. And then they sometimes try to recruit my SK. Or other random class lol. Aye. No more derailing of a thread. Sorry.

 

[chronosv]

I wanted to update this thread and mark the main issue as solved:
The bard was lying about mez because I was using a Wind Instrument based mez and my skill sucked. Using a Singing mez worked perfectly. Later on, I raised my skill in Wind and the Wind Instrument mez worked perfectly.

My only wish is that if mez fails, the character does not report that it succeeded in DanNet or whatever channel.