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Question - MA Tank does not always engage incoming mob

csblake50

csblake50

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I'm using VV, EQBC, & Kissassist.

Tank is my MA. Group camps with tank. Ranger is my puller.

Often, the puller brings a mob, the tank engages & the group kills the mob.
On a good streak this can go for an hour or two without issue.

Sometimes, the puller brings back a mob & the tank just stands there and doesn't do anything.
Then things generally go from bad to worse.

Do anyone have any suggestions on how to make the MA stay frosty & not miss incoming mobs?
 
Make sure CampRadius and MeleeDistance are large enough so your tank will engage. Is it bringing it directly into your camp on top of your tank?
 
I had to make camp and melee larger and add ambush to Agro section (spell)|<|100|Ambush works on my toon but having a similar problem on my wifes
 
Puller is in same group? Tanks recognize aggro based on xtarget aggro and campradius setting.

Any pattern to the ignore? Like it's a certain type of mob or maybe a non-kos mob?
 
All 6 toons are in the same group.

Can you provide some examples of your increase camp, melee, and ambush settings look like?

I haven't noticed any patterns.
For examples, sometimes it will fail back to back, then the 3rd time it will start working like it should.
It does not appears to be related to a specific type of mob & kos/non kos.
 
This is my 110 SK general/melee settings related to camp/tank. For a pullertank, but he'll grab mobs if they walk in:
Code: 
[General]
KissAssistVer=11.004
Role=PullerTank
CampRadius=45
CampRadiusExceed=300
ReturnToCamp=1

[Melee]
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=front
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=0
DismountDuringFights=0
TargetSwitchingOn=0

I don't use ambush on my tanks, but do on melee dps. It's a DPS tag that tells KA to try to use that DPS entry as the first item. Some abilities require you to be out-of-combat to use them. You could set something like this:
Code: 
DPS1=Wounding Blade|100|Ambush

I see cotto was running in the Aggro section. I haven't tried that. Aggro watches for you to be above/below a certain threshold on aggro percentage. But if the mob isn't on your xtarget list, I don't think it would recognize it as an issue.

Post your tank's ini, so we can see if there is something else causing it to ignore mobs.
 
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csblake50 said:
All 6 toons are in the same group.

Can you provide some examples of your increase camp, melee, and ambush settings look like?

I haven't noticed any patterns.
For examples, sometimes it will fail back to back, then the 3rd time it will start working like it should.
It does not appears to be related to a specific type of mob & kos/non kos.
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I’ll be more then happy to soon as I get home, won’t be back until late Sunday/early Monday.
 
Here is my INI (I haven't made any changes yet)
Maybe I will have better luck if I set my "CampRadius=45" & "AssistAt=99"
What would you suggest for an ambush setting?

Code: 
[General]
KissAssistVer=11.004
Role=Tank
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|96
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=2|20
CastingInterruptOn=0
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Paladin|95|GOLD
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
XTSlot=1

[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KissAssist

[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=20
Buffs1=Righteous Vexation
Buffs2=Marr's Salvation|Caster
Buffs3=Brell's Adamantine Armor
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs7=Zealous Fury
Buffs8=Blessed Aura|Aura
Buffs9=Armor of Formidable Faith
Buffs10=Preservation of Oseka
Buffs11=Rejuvenating Steel
Buffs12=Inquisitor's Judgment
Buffs13=Remorse for the Fallen
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
PowerSource=NULL

[AE]
AEOn=1
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=Prominent Mantle|3
AE2=Deflection Discipline|4
AE3=Armor of the Inquisitor|3
AE4=Fundament: Third Spire of Holiness|2
AE5=Armor of Zeal|2
AE9=Beacon of the Righteous|4
AE10=Pureforge Discipline|2
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL

[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSize=20
DPSSkip=0
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Force of Oseka|99
DPS2=Lesson of Remorse|99
DPS3=Crush of Tides|99
DPS4=Disruptive Persecution|99
DPS5=Provocation for Honor|99
DPS6=Glorious Exculpation|99
DPS7=Crush of Oseka|99
DPS8=Renounce|99
DPS16=Gift of Life|50
DPS17=Valorous Rage|99
DebuffAllOn=0
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DPS18=NULL
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL

[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
AggroSize=10
Aggro1=Taunt|95|<|Mob
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
Aggro6=NULL
Aggro7=NULL
Aggro8=NULL
Aggro9=NULL
Aggro10=NULL

[Heals]
HealsOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=Burst of Splendor|50
Heals2=Lay on Hands|20
Heals3=Hand of Piety|70|Group
Heals4=Contrition|30
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
AutoRezOn=0
AutoRez1=Your Primary Rez Item/AA/Spell
AutoRez2=Your Secondary Rez Item/AA/Spell
AutoRez3=Your Third Rez Item/AA/Spell


[Cures]
CuresOn=1
CuresSize=5
Cures1=Radiant Cure
Cures2=Purification|Me
Cures3=Blessing of Purification
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL

[Burn]
BurnSize=15
BurnAllNamed=1
Burn1=Prominent Mantle
Burn2=Armor of Zeal
Burn3=Projection of Piety
Burn4=Fundament: Third Spire of Holiness
Burn5=Ageless Enmity
Burn6=Undivided Affirmation
Burn7=Armor of Courage
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
UseTribute=0

[GoM]
GoMSize=3
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
GoMSpell3=NULL

[MySpells]
Gem1=Burst of Splendor
Gem2=Contrition
Gem3=Crush of Tides
Gem4=Force of Oseka
Gem5=Lesson of Remorse
Gem6=Provocation for Honor
Gem7=Glorious Exculpation
Gem8=Armor of Formidable Faith
Gem9=Crush of Oseka
Gem10=Protective Dedication
Gem11=Preservation of Oseka
Gem12=Rejuvenating Steel
Gem13=NULL


[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=0
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL

[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=1000
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0

[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0

[KConditions]
ConOn=0
CondSize=5
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
 
Does this return to camp setting help? If you're running a mobile/chase type group then leave it =0.
Code: 
[General]
ReturnToCamp=1

Is it when the Pally is buffing? My pally is a pullertank but I've noticed he does seem to get stuck when redoing buffs for longer than my SK or Warrior. Like he can have a 20 second pause where KA isn't updating anything in the window, then he exits the buff phase and goes back to pulling. I was suspicious it was Marr's Salvation which has a longer recast, so might be he was waiting to see if it would refresh for another cast. You could try removing that line:
Code: 
Buffs2=NULL

Any chance the tank is getting a Divine Aura from healer? Cleric with Bestow DA in their [Heals] section?
 
I have a hotkey that that sets return to camp =1 one once I'm setup and ready to go.

You may be onto something with buffing!!
The first pull is always the the most sketchy (it's hit or miss). I usually need to intervene to get things started.
Once he's in steadily in combat he seems to do fine.
Given that, it's very possible that he 'sometimes' gets slow/stuck in buffing cycle after a med break or waiting for respawns.
This could explain the seemingly randomness on the time intervals on when it would fail.

I removed Marr's Salvation. We'll see how things go.
I'll also test it out with buffs off & see if that helps narrow things down.

The cleric or pally are not using their DAs.
I removed them earlier to remove that as a possibility.
 
I have had similar issues with my pally casting buffs when a mob is coming to camp as well. I changes this and he now engages quickly.

CastingInterruptOn=0
 
I seem to be having some initial success.
The Paly/tank seems to be more responsive after simplifying buff section as suggested & setting CastingInterruptOn=1.
This makes those first initial pulls, from buffing to combat, more reliable.
I'm going to continue testing, but I think this might do it.

I'd like to thank everyone for their inputs. Your help is greatly appreciated!
 
I had this today on my SK and it was because I had stickhow set to snaproll, as soon as I put front it started engaging again
 
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