Request - looking for some pointers and opinions on raiding ToL content

[519helvis]

a buddy and i are currently raiding CoV content with our force. and were looking to jump into ToL. we've attempted shei a few times and keep having a few issues. mainly with the healer mobs spamming shei once were down to like 15% on her. i understand its still content people may not want to share info on. any thoughts and suggestions would be of help. can always inbox me as well =)

cheers to the greatest boxing community out there

 

[Grpsmashin]

Can you describe the healer mobs part? Dieing usually spawns these

 

[Eltai86]

The only thing that spawns those is deaths, 1 per death. What are you doing for cures? How many people are you trying it with? What is killing people?

 

[Davros]

If dying is the only thing that spawns the healers, what is the penalty for not baning the alien mobs that spawn on the ground floor in time? I thought those spawned the healers if they went active?

 

[Leo]

The penalty for not banishing the aliens is they summon someone and kill them, which then spawns a healer mob. So while they don't directly spawn healer mobs, they will as an indirect result of killing someone.

 

[Davros]

OK, that makes a lot more sense. Appreciate the help you all.

 

[519helvis]

ok soo good to confirm that at least its a death causing the spawn, we've gotten shei down to 2% at one point than bam all of a sudden we get swarmed with healer mobs. the fact my buddy and i are on test doesnt give us a lot of folks to bounce ideas off of ... thanks for confirming some things

there is three of us running a crew on it. for the above question. we've setup some simple scripts to deal with baning. just were not sure what caused the healers to spawn

 

[Eltai86]

Shei's AE gets more powerful as more people are near her, I go after this with 24 with a breakdown as follows:
2 sk
2 pal
1 clr
3 shm
3 nec
2 enc
3 rng
2 ber
2 bst
2 brd
1 war
1 mnk

Brd/enc/nec/rng/pal are on bane duty (Event with the largest spawn count the adds don't last long)
Pal's I use an event for dbl splash

 

[Grpsmashin]

Best advice. no more than 24 on platform, make sure no one dies, deal with banes. See below for group setup i run

 

[Hylander]

1. Manage aggro. ensure mark (reverse DS) is only on the MT. SKs, BST and MNKs have a knack of acquiring aggro despite your best efforts. You get aggro, you get mark, you beat yourself to death.
2. Manage cures. pally splash is ez mode
3. Manage banes. Get the aliens dead asap.

zero deaths is your objective

 

[Sic]

1. Manage aggro. ensure mark (reverse DS) is only on the MT. SKs, BST and MNKs have a knack of acquiring aggro despite your best efforts. You get aggro, you get mark, you beat yourself to death.
2. Manage cures. pally splash is ez mode
3. Manage banes. Get the aliens dead asap.

zero deaths is your objective

darkened cone of the mystics = win (or fishing rod etc)

 

[519helvis]

we found 22-24 on the platform was about the max we could handle from the ae ... so it def sounds like our main issue is dealing with the dancefloor and avoiding deaths down below. much thanks for all the great advice!

 

[Leo]

we found 22-24 on the platform was about the max we could handle from the ae ... so it def sounds like our main issue is dealing with the dancefloor and avoiding deaths down below. much thanks for all the great advice!

It's actually easier to only take in the 24 up on the platform and not deal with dancing below. Leave them in raid but outside instance until you get the win. Then zone them in before you pop chest. When we do it as a guild, we take in only 29 and they are all up on the platform, everyone else in the raid waits outside until told to come in.

 

[Eltai86]

It's actually easier to only take in the 24 up on the platform and not deal with dancing below. Leave them in raid but outside instance until you get the win. Then zone them in before you pop chest. When we do it as a guild, we take in only 29 and they are all up on the platform, everyone else in the raid waits outside until told to come in.

This. I usually broadcast a port in from guild hall to banner around 2-4% depending on how I'm feeling with the dps. Don't be overconfident though because if they land in and she aes.....insta wipe.

 

[Grpsmashin]

All good advice in this tread. For newbies trying COV or TOL raid content. Dont be scared to watch youtube videos of raids.

There is basic raid mechanic to each raid, so therefore will always be your ground work first.

 

[WiseTrapper]

When you are baning the adds, if you use root - be sure your rangers turn off autoattack/autofire. Otherwise the shot from the bow will wake them and the damage from the root of course will make the summon - then you're going to suffer. Mez is the safest and best way to control the bane adds as you won't find enchanters often using autoattack while they mez.
slow rolling the dps on shei will spawn the bane adds at a slower rate giving you more time to mez/root them to death

 

[Cryptonomicon]

This. I usually broadcast a port in from guild hall to banner around 2-4% depending on how I'm feeling with the dps. Don't be overconfident though because if they land in and she aes.....insta wipe.

If you are only doing this for currency, you can leave them in the guildlobby. You get coins when opening as long as they are in raid, regardless of zone, now. For loot them would still need to be there!

 

[Eltai86]

If you are only doing this for currency, you can leave them in the guildlobby. You get coins when opening as long as they are in raid, regardless of zone, now. For loot them would still need to be there!

I’m well aware, been boxing raids for nearly two years now. I had issues with being able to loot from chest for shei if toons weren’t in zone when it spawned so started doing it that way to ensure I can put the loot where I want it

 

[Trapper]

you could also try the other 2 easy raids-
Swarm Commander, has no mechanics just chase an MA and off tank the boss.. best to have 3-4 Tanks with drivers. but can be done with 2 if the tanks are beefy.
Zelnithak, falls in the same tank type category best to have 4 tanks(1 boss, 3 adds) but can do with 2 if beefy.. (this event does have 1 run mechanic, and 1 reposition mechanic.)

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[Grpsmashin]

you could also try the other 2 easy raids-
Swarm Commander, has no mechanics just chase an MA and off tank the boss.. best to have 3-4 Tanks with drivers. but can be done with 2 if the tanks are beefy.
Zelnithak, falls in the same tank type category best to have 4 tanks(1 boss, 3 adds) but can do with 2 if beefy.. (this event does have 1 run mechanic, and 1 reposition mechanic.)

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Dont forget the switch of Melee/caster for the DPS check in Zelnithak

 

[Turaj Steelfist]

On your Shei fight, not sure if you are aware, but once shei hits 30% the adds and curses come faster. We just burn Shei at the start and slow kill after it fades.

 

[Trapper]

On your Shei fight, not sure if you are aware, but once shei hits 30% the adds and curses come faster. We just burn Shei at the start and slow kill after it fades.

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