Problem - HELP - 1 char causing eqgame.exe to poof (no crash messages)

[BlankStare]

Version of KissAssist.mac?

11.005

When did your problem start?

2 weeks ago when I started playing the Cleric

Character Role?

1. Assist

What class is having this issue?

1. Cleric

How often does this issue occur?

Always

Can you reproduce the issue?

Yes - just run KA

I have two running KA. Paladin on Tank or Pullertank modes, running just fine.
My Cleric was using IHC with no crashes, but better tuning is in KA, yet he causes the game instances to vanish. Not crash, just poof gone. No dump files, etc. There's no errors in his KissAssist profile, and in fact I just re-did the whole profile from the ground up (renamed old file, ran mac to generate the black profile again, re-typed things, etc.)

He buffs fine, heals/DPS is all fine, but every few mobs his instance will disappear, or all other instances except his will disappear, or once I had all 4 instances disappear.

My setup:
Paladin - KA
Monk - MQ2Monk
Rogue - IHC
Cleric - IHC fine, KA (or MuleAssist) causes crashing
2x merc

Can anyone think of reasons as to why this is?

Below is the new .ini file:

[CODE lang="ini" title="KA Cleric 110"][General]
KissAssistVer=11.005
Role=assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=80
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
EQBCOn=0
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Cleric|110|GOLD
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
XTSlot=0

[Spells]
MiscGem=12
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
CastingInterruptOn=0
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KissAssist
Gem1=Mark of Shandral
Gem2=Merciful Remedy
Gem3=Syllable of Mending
Gem4=Merciful Light
Gem5=Merciful Intervention
Gem6=Mystical Intervention Rk. II
Gem7=Unyielding Judgment
Gem8=Fifteenth Emblem Rk. III
Gem9=Unyielding Hammer of Zeal
Gem10=Ward of Assurance
Gem11=Shining Fortress
Gem12=Unified Assurance
Gem13=NULL

[MySpells]
Gem1=Mark of Shandral
Gem2=Merciful Remedy
Gem3=Syllable of Mending
Gem4=Merciful Light
Gem5=Merciful Intervention
Gem6=Mystical Intervention Rk. II
Gem7=Unyielding Judgment
Gem8=Fifteenth Emblem Rk. III
Gem9=Unyielding Hammer of Zeal
Gem10=Ward of Assurance
Gem11=Shining Fortress
Gem12=Unified Assurance
Gem13=NULL

[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=20
Buffs1=Aura of Divinity Rk. III|Aura|Aura of Divinity Effect III
Buffs2=Aura of the Reverent Rk. III|Aura|Aura of the Reverent Effect
Buffs3=Unified Assurance|dual|Assurance
Buffs4=Saint's Unity|dual|Armor of the Merciful
Buffs5=Shining Fortress|CLASS|PAL,SK,WAR
Buffs6=Shining Fortress|Me
Buffs7=Divine Response Rk. II
Buffs8=Ward of Assurance|CLASS|PAL,SK,WAR
Buffs9=Ward of Assurance|CLASS|MNK
Buffs10=Ward of Assurance|MA
Buffs11=Veturika's Perseverance|Mana|80
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=Familiar of the Emerald Jungle|dual|Familiar: Emerald Sokokar
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL

[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
HealsSize=15
Heals1=Fifteenth Emblem Rk. III|35
Heals2=Merciful Remedy|80
Heals3=Spiritual Remedy Rk. II|80
Heals4=Merciful Intervention|95
Heals5=Mystical Intervention Rk. II|95
Heals6=Merciful Light|60
Heals7=Divine Guardian|99|Tank
Heals8=Divine Arbitration|50
Heals9=Beacon of Life|30
Heals10=Burst of Life|80
Heals11=NULL
Heals12=NULL
Heals13=NULL
Heals14=NULL
Heals15=Blessing of Resurrection|0|rez
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
AutoRezOn=1
AutoRezWith=Blessing of Resurrection

[Cures]
CuresOn=1
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=Purify Soul
Cures3=Group Purify Soul
Cures4=Ward of Purity
Cures5=NULL

[Melee]
AssistAt=98
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=0

[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSize=10
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=1
DPS1=Yaulp|99
DPS2=Mark of Shandral|99|debuffall
DPS3=Unyielding Hammer of Zeal|98
DPS4=Vicious Rabbit|97
DPS5=Amulet of the Drowned Mariner|96
DPS6=Turn Undead|90|mob|Cond1
DPS7=Miniature Horn of Unity|99|Cond5
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=Unyielding Judgment|95
DPS10=Veturika's Perseverance|99|Cond5
DebuffAllOn=1

[KConditions]
ConOn=1
CondSize=5
Cond1=${Target.Body.Name.Equal[Undead]}
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=${Me.PctMana}<80

[AE]
AEOn=1
AESize=5
AERadius=50
AE1=Spire of the Vicar|3|Tank
AE2=Celestial Regeneration|3|Tank
AE3=Celestial Hammer|3|Mob
AE4=Divine Retribution|4|Me
AE5=Flurry of Life|5|Me

[Burn]
BurnAllNamed=1
BurnSize=14
Burn1=Celestial Rapidity
Burn2=Miniature Horn of Unity|Tank
Burn3=Signet of Gannar|Tank
Burn4=Dreamweave Illuminator Breastplate|Tank
Burn5=Spire of the Vicar|Tank
Burn6=Divine Guardian|Tank
Burn7=Celestial Regeneration|Tank
Burn8=Turn Undead|Mob|Cond1
Burn9=Divine Avatar|Mob
Burn10=Exquisite Benediction|Mob
Burn11=Celestial Hammer|Mob
Burn11=Divine Retribution|Me
Burn12=Flurry of Life|Me
Burn13=Focused Celestial Regeneration|Tank
Burn14=Battle Frenzy|Me
UseTribute=0

[Pull]
PullWith=Mark of Shandral
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0

[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSize=1
GoMSpell1=NULL

[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=1
GMail1=NULL

[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=1
Aggro1=NULL

[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0

[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[/CODE]

I really want to use KA, as IHC is missing so many solid customization features, but my group is wiping when my characters just lose their game window entirely.

I wanted to note, this happens in combat when my Cleric is meleeing. I found IHC to not use Cleric melee all that well, and I recall years ago when I would use KA for this Cleric, and it worked great. I have not crashed/poofed during non-combat, on the Cleric, or at all with the Paladin during any time.

 

[Fried]

Can you provide what plugins you have running?
May also try not using advanced looting,and see if that might cease your issues.

 

[BlankStare]

Can you provide what plugins you have running?
May also try not using advanced looting,and see if that might cease your issues.

Are you saying the /advloot new looting window?

I disabled MQ2Monk, that wasn't the root cause. Here's the rest:



I don't even know what some of these plugins are, they auto-loaded, I don't use them, or they are innate in the game and I don't directly use /commands for them.
The only other thing I could possibly think of, but it doesn't happen on the Paladin, is trying to forage when swapping between melee and healing.

 

[Fried]

Mq2autoforage is whats automating your forage it can be unloaded ,eqbugfix can be unloaded, with your current grouping you can unload mq2xassist,
Ihc requires dannet so you need that ,but i would also unload eqbc.
Eqbc and dannet may be causing a conflict,unload the above and try running without autoloot to see if that wont remedy your issue.
If it is stable ,re-enable auto loot afterwards.

 

[BlankStare]

I tried running KA12, and I had all 3 melees poof (everyone but the Cleric) after a few mobs.

I'll try unloading the four above. EQBC is nice because of the "come to me", "follow me" etc commands. I'll test and see how it goes.

 

[BlankStare]

Still poofed all windows minus the Cleric. It was going good for a solid 10 minutes or so.

 

[Fried]

Unload;
mq2dpsadv,mq2dmgparser,mq2spawnmaster,mq2cast,mq2aaspend.
If that dont work im outta ideas, turn off advloot in game.
Also make sure your all up to date on plugins ,macros and VV.

 

[BlankStare]

Unload;
mq2dpsadv,mq2dmgparser,mq2spawnmaster,mq2cast,mq2aaspend.
If that dont work im outta ideas, turn off advloot in game.
Also make sure your all up to date on plugins ,macros and VV.

Everything is up to date. I'll certainly try this, but it's just weird that I have one character using KissAssist without any problems or hesitations, and another which forces the rest of the group to disappear, like they /q out. Cleric isn't even the group leader.
Does MQ2 keep logs of commands characters use, or have in their MQ2 window?

 

[Crush2305]

Did you ever figure out the root of the problem?

 

[BlankStare]

I did. And the answer is so fucking obscure and random, that I doubt **ANYONE** else will run into this problem.


Back several years ago, I joked that I was a DPS Cleric. I would tank on raids in the RoF/CotF era because I had massive AC, and with Turn Undead, heal nukes, nuke heals, and other things, I would top-20 DPS parse in the guild while still hitting Top 1 or Top 2 heal parse.
So, I used a pet rename potion, and changed my hammer pet to the name of my Cleric. Now it looks like my Cleric has the ability to backstab and do better DPS in parses.

Wait, it gets better here.

When I was doing this testing a month ago or so, I literally turned everything off on my Cleric to test with. MQ2 unloaded, etc. I, crazy enough, *STILL* caused my other guys to crash to desktop, by doing my normal Cleric routine.
What I realized is that when I would cast my hammer pet, and the pet died from riposte, logs looked like my Cleric had died instead, due to the same name. Now I am guessing that somewhere there, my other guys see a group member's name in a death message, and go to check the status of my health to confirm it; they see me not dead, don't know how to parse that, and crash.

I don't know what plugin is checking the health of dead characters in the group, but I eventually gave up, removed casting the pet with my Cleric's name from my KissAssist routine, and have had zero crashes since.
I guess the permanent fix here is to figure out what seeing my pet die with the Cleric's name giving the death message, would cause the other members in the group to entirely crash to desktop. It's a bug for sure, but it's so obscure and random that you would need to deliberately do what I did to reproduce it. Any ideas on what that would be, would likely be your answer for what could be fixed on the MQ2 side. Someone really good with MQ2 development, like @eqmule or someone on that level, would maybe know offhand what caused it.

 

[BlankStare]

This thread could also be relocated to a more general area, and is not related to KissAssist. Originally my troubleshooting was relating to a KA problem, but I debunked that when turning off MQ completely on this character.