Problem - Healers Stopping Navigation

[gogreth]

Version of KissAssist.mac?

11.004

When did your problem start?

After latest update

Character Role?

1. Assist

What class is having this issue?

1. Cleric

How often does this issue occur?

Always

Can you reproduce the issue?

Yes, by running the macro and attempting to navigate the healers

Whenever I try to navigate my group or navigate my healers individually they will cease navigating after 1-3 seconds. I've noticed that if a mob is aggored and on the extended target window they will nav fine. I'm not sure what's changed as in the previous versions of KA my healers never did this. Below are the INIs for the Shaman and Cleric.

CLERIC
[General]
KissAssistVer=11.004
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=85
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|96
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
CastingInterruptOn=0
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Cleric|75|GOLD
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
ConditionsOn=0
XTSlot=0
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsCOn=0
BuffsSize=20
Buffs1=Hand of Tenacity
Buffs2=Aura of Purpose
Buffs3=NULL
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
BuffsOn=0
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll rear
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMCOn=0
GoMSize=3
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
GoMSpell3=NULL
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AECOn=0
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSCOn=0
DPSSize=20
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=NULL
DPS2=NULL
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DPS16=NULL
DPS17=NULL
DPS18=NULL
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
DebuffAllOn=0
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
HealsCOn=0
HealsSize=15
Heals1=Ancient: Hallowed Light|70
Heals2=Word of Vivication|65
Heals3=Elixir of Redemption|80
Heals4=Water Sprinkler of Nem Ankh|0|rez
Heals5=NULL
Heals6=NULL
Heals7=NULL
Heals8=NULL
Heals9=NULL
Heals10=NULL
Heals11=NULL
Heals12=NULL
Heals13=NULL
Heals14=NULL
Heals15=NULL
XTarHeal=1
XTarHealList=all
AutoRezOn=1
AutoRezWith=Water Sprinkler of Nem Ankh
HealGroupPetsOn=0
XTarHealList=1
AutoRez1=NULL
AutoRez2=NULL
AutoRez3=NULL
XTarHeal2=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Burn]
BurnCOn=0
BurnSize=15
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
UseTribute=0
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullPause=30|2
PullArcWidth=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[KissError]
LastCMD:=/endmacro
ErrorDateTime:=08/05/2019 01:05:47
ErrorMsg:=Cannot end a macro when one isn't running.
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=18132453
BuildDate:=20190717
CurrentUI:=default
[KConditions]
ConOn=0
CondSize=5
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE



SHAMAN
[General]
KissAssistVer=11.004
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=0
MedStart=60
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|96
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
CastingInterruptOn=0
EQBCOn=1
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Shaman|75|GOLD
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
ConditionsOn=0
XTSlot=1
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=0
BuffsCOn=1
BuffsSize=20
Buffs1=Champion|Melee|Always
Buffs2=Ancient: Ancestral Calling|Mana|95|20
Buffs3=Cannibalization|mana|80|80
Buffs4=Talisman of the Dire|MA
Buffs5=Talisman of Celerity
Buffs6=Talisman of the Tribunal
Buffs7=Spirit of Bih`Li
Buffs8=Talisman of Fortitude
Buffs9=Talisman of the Stoic One
Buffs10=Talisman of Foresight
Buffs11=Lingering Sloth|MA|Always
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
[Melee]
AssistAt=98
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=50
StickHow=snaproll rear
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMCOn=0
GoMSize=3
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
GoMSpell3=NULL
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
AECOn=0
[DPS]
DPSOn=0
DPSCOn=0
DPSSize=20
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Time's Antithesis|98|debuffall|slow|conditional|Turgur's Insects
DPS2=NULL
DPS3=Talisman of the Panther|99|MA
DPS4=Malis|99|debuffall|conditional|Malis
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DPS16=NULL
DPS17=NULL
DPS18=NULL
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
DebuffAllOn=2
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
HealsCOn=0
HealsSize=15
Heals1=Ancient: Wilslik's Mending|55
Heals2=Spiritual Serenity|80
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
Heals6=NULL
Heals7=NULL
Heals8=NULL
Heals9=NULL
Heals10=NULL
Heals11=NULL
Heals12=NULL
Heals13=NULL
Heals14=NULL
Heals15=NULL
XTarHeal=1
XTarHealList=all
AutoRezOn=0
AutoRezWith=Your Rez Item/AA/Spell
HealGroupPetsOn=0
XTarHealList=1
AutoRez1=NULL
AutoRez2=NULL
AutoRez3=NULL
XTarHeal2=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=0
PetSpell=YourPetSpell
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=0
PetBuffsSize=8
PetBuffs1=NULL
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetCombatOn=1
PetAssistAt=95
PetToysSize=6
PetBreakMezSpell=NULL
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
MoveWhenHit=0
PetHoldOn=1
PetForceHealOnMed=0
PetAttackDistance=115
[Burn]
BurnCOn=0
BurnSize=15
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
UseTribute=0
[Pull]
PullWith=Burst of Flame
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=1350
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=0
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=95
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullLevel=20|70
PullPause=30|2
PullArcWidth=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[KissError]
LastCMD:=/if (!37) {
ErrorDateTime:=08/04/2019 23:43:08
ErrorMsg:=Cannot end a macro when one isn't running.
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=13218823
BuildDate:=20190717
CurrentUI:=default
[KConditions]
ConOn=0
CondSize=5
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE

 

[ctaylor22]

Any character that can buff, will stay out of the buff routine while they have aggro. It is going to be something in buffs most likely. Can you get a debug log of this while it is happening and PM the file to me?

 

[gogreth]

Wouldn't let me upload the log file in .txt format. Here is the error I found when attempting to navigate to another group member while KA is running.

[2019/08/06 11:44:16] [MQ2Nav] Navigating to spawn: Audzen (21241)

[2019/08/06 11:44:17] [MQ2] COMBAT L:2324 T:52 Sub: CombatReset: Enter 0 MainLoop4

[2019/08/06 11:44:17] [MQ2] PULL L:8382 T:52 Sub: PullReset Enter

[2019/08/06 11:44:17] [MQ2Nav] Stopping navigation


Thank you for taking a look at this.

 

[ctaylor22]

I downloaded the file. Saw it had character names so I deleted it from here.. Will take a look at it.

 

[surfdog21]

Yes I had this exact issue of my cleric stopping his mqnav pathing after a few seconds in the Temple of Droga, when all of my other toons would individually find anyone in group without stopping, on the same pc. I downloaded all of the map packs and reinstalled them and it fixed it though it is odd that only the cleric was having that issue.

 

[ctaylor22]

What command are you using to navigate to the other character?

 

[Armyboxer99]

Having exactly the same issue with my cleric and shaman, using standard 'come to me' or ' follow me' buttons.

 

[gogreth]

The command I used is /nav ${Target.ID}

 

[ctaylor22]

You do know there are commands you can use in kiss, that was put in place to help fix this problem.

/trackmedown param1 param2 param3
param1 - 1=When you arrive at the final destination turn stick off, 0=Leave Stick on.
param2 - 1=Use Navigation only to move. 0=Use anything available to move.
param3 - 1=Ignore distance, 0=Use CampRadiusExceed distance.

From the character you want everyone to run to, use /trackmedown 1 1 1 Everyone in the group will take off running. If your running them across the zone be ready for a train.

use /chaseme command. This command turns chase on, but not on the one executing the command. This sets chase on for the rest of the group members and sets the member, who issued the command, as the one to chase. Then kiss will take over and start chasing.

/chaseme uses the normal chase code in kissassist, so keep that in mind when using.

 

[Sic]

If you just pause your dudes before trying to nav, you will navigate fine.

 

[ctaylor22]

@Sicprofundus I wish I could get every macro user to think the way you do.

 

[watisthis]

@Sicprofundus I wish I could get every macro user to think the way you do.

/nod
Sic's Hotkeys is honestly one of the coolest resource pages. They, combined with his basic info vid, show all the hotkeys needed to make everything work.

 

[gogreth]

Pausing works well for now as does the /chaseme command. I've noticed that while out of combat with no mobs on extended target window my cleric will clear his current target every second. If I target a group member or mob with the cleric his target is almost immediately cleared. When try to target something else the target window is immediately cleared again within one second. Changing the TargetSwitchingOn settings has no effect on this behavior. Changing roles has no effect on this behavior either. This target clearing behavior also coincides to when stopping navigation happens.

 

[Sic]

Pausing works well for now as does the /chaseme command. I've noticed that while out of combat with no mobs on extended target window my cleric will clear his current target every second. If I target a group member or mob with the cleric his target is almost immediately cleared. When try to target something else the target window is immediately cleared again within one second. Changing the TargetSwitchingOn settings has no effect on this behavior. Changing roles has no effect on this behavior either. This target clearing behavior also coincides to when stopping navigation happens.

Can you try changing your secion for Xtarheal to either XTarHeal=0 or XTarHealList=2 (instead of 1) --- I have seen healers have issues trying to use xtar slot 1 for extended heal - not sure if this is causing your target clearing, but it might be.

I also see some duplicate entries in those inis

For example:
XTarHeal=1
XTarHealList=all
XTarHealList=1


If i were in your position I would start with a fresh ini and then build outwardly from there - whatever ini you're using still has stuff in it like HealCon and since i did find duplicate entries of settings lines - it would be worth starting fresh.

 

[gogreth]

Removed the old ini and started with a fresh one. Nav stopping and target clearing was still the same as before without making any adjustments to the newly created ini.

 

[ctaylor22]

Well there were some changes made to the last version of kiss for non-DPS roles. The changes allow non DPS/Melee characters to do some of the things that DPS/Melee characters do, without actually /attack(ing) the target.

I think the issue is that Combat reset is now being called, and combat reset will clear your target. The problem with the navigation getting stalled, is Pullreset gets called from CombatReset, and PullReset stops all movement. I have made a change to the line that /calls PullReset to include a check for Puller in the role, this should fix the /nav issue. I just now need to figure out a way to /call CombatReset only after a mob has died for the non-DPS/Melee characters.

If you want to make the change and test it out, just find the CombatReset routine and look for the below code:

        /varset CalledTargetID 0
        /varset AggroTargetID2 0
        /varset MyTargetID 0
        /varset MyTargetName
        /varset ValidTarget 0
        /varset MercAssisting 0
        /varset CombatStart 0
        /varset Pulled 0
        /varset NamedCheck 0
        /call PullReset

What you want to change is the last line. Change it to this:

/if (${Role.Find[puller]}) /call PullReset

 

[gogreth]

Applying this code change to the macro seems to work perfectly. Thank you so much for taking the time to find it. Cleric is navigating without issue now.