Question - Group

[Birdman]

Alrighty so I have a 105 War 11k AA (TDS group gear) 105 Bard 13k AA (TDS raid gear) 105 Cleric (CoTF T2 raid gear) and x3-97 wiz 8157 AA (RoF group gear, waiting for 100 for castaway).
I hear people on here that can murder shit etc etc I have been fiddling with my INI from time to time and I'm still lost on how people can go to thulisar and fuck shit up. I cant even go to cotf half the time or I die. my necro/warrior/bard/cleric with 2 cleric mercs can handle tds just fine but it is a short period like 3 hours and I die from an double add or something. if anyone can help id be glad to donate kronos or something. Posting INI below

105 Warrior

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[Merc]
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105 Bard

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[Merc]
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105 Cleric

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IRCOn=0
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DPS11=NULL
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Burn11=NULL
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[Merc]
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And all 3 97 Wizards are the same

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[Merc]
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Heading to work till 430pm EST will check at that time... Thank you in advance

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no one? anyone? willing to donate kronos for help ?????

 

[Warl0ck45]

I don't use KA so, I canna help there.

Outside of that, your bard ought to be handling any adds, to a point. Your DPS is limiting your ability to kill stuff fast until you get them built up and with the right AA and gear.

Frankly, just work missions or farm TBM stuff for now, gearing up while you XP.

 

[Birdman]

???

 

[ninalia]

you have some ini for each class in forum for kiss , afnuke for wiz , autocleric for cleric if youwant to opti you r group

 

[Inkie]

are you dying to nameds or to adds?

assuming it's to an unexpected add, I think you warrior could benefit from some changes to the AE section:

If the bard's mez gets resisted there's nothing the warrior is doing to pull aggro off the bard, I forget the exact name but look for AE effects that do not have a damage component to help the warrior pull aggro off the bard (call of challenge or etc.)

Bard slow is possibly in your twist but could be just a single cast and might be better...

It might work out better to put the Crescendo spell as one of the first dps spells instead of a buff, it may time out better with when the heal fires.

your wizards might perform better using afnuke85 (afnuke100 when they get that level) it has some things in it that KA isn't specifically designed for.

 

[Birdman]

are you dying to nameds or to adds?

assuming it's to an unexpected add, I think you warrior could benefit from some changes to the AE section:

If the bard's mez gets resisted there's nothing the warrior is doing to pull aggro off the bard, I forget the exact name but look for AE effects that do not have a damage component to help the warrior pull aggro off the bard (call of challenge or etc.)


Will try that with bard and warrior I tend to die to an add on and nameds like their just flat out weak, I want to run DH missions to lvl up wizzy and max out AA but I gpt all the files downloaded but nothing happens when I do /mac scoutingahead

Bard slow is possibly in your twist but could be just a single cast and might be better...

It might work out better to put the Crescendo spell as one of the first dps spells instead of a buff, it may time out better with when the heal fires.

your wizards might perform better using afnuke85 (afnuke100 when they get that level) it has some things in it that KA isn't specifically designed for.

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Like I see people making 100mil 100mil this that this that and I'm over here struggling to make 1 mil and I run a solid group and actually I run 2 groups from tiem to time and I cant make shit. its getting old because I'm tring to make Redguides more fun by knowing what I'm doing to help pass on and show people new spots etc etc but I cant

 

[Inkie]

...like their just flat out weak...

are you playing them manually or as an automated group?... are you manually playing the warrior and letting the other 6 be automatic?

 

[Birdman]

are you playing them manually or as an automated group?... are you manually playing the warrior and letting the other 6 be automatic?

All auto.. I want to run like TDS missions and COTF missions but knowing my shitty ass luck ill die within the mission and sit their like an idiot. I wanna run missions with either 105 necro/warrior/bard/cleric and 2 mercs or cleric/war/bard/wiz/wiz/wiz

 

[Inkie]

ok, that group should probably be able to do the dead hills missions on auto with some tweaking to the .ini's. I don't think anyone has a TDS mission macro that runs the whole mission through to completion.

I mean this in a helpful way:

I would start by getting the group up to speed and preforming consistently and then work on breaking into doing DH on auto. The DH macros will require some edits to change what you pull with and etc but first get the group running smoothly so you know what to expect.

Shard's landing would be my suggesting starting place, starting with the .ini you have, look at the abilities listed for the class on eqresource and decide when the toon should use them or if there are specific reasons to not use them. Some examples:

It doesn't appear that your warrior does anything different for a named, he should most likely be using last stand disciple and No Time to Bleed or Pain Doesn't Hurt, and a handful of other things that go with it. And I would argue that should be running Stout Defense the rest of the time.

On the other hand Rampage and ... Stormwheel Blades... (could be wrong on name) are neat AE things but cause damage so with the bard on mez duty we don't want the warrior breaking mez so they're not likely to be included in the AE section for the warrior but Roar of Challenge (PBAE +hate) and area taunt would be good to have in the AE section to minimize the chance that the bard (or cleric) is tanking.

Set the group up somewhere pulling a camp that has the opportunity for a named and let them work, if the named is beating them and the cleric can't keep up, the burn section needs some tweaks, if the bad pull or add while fighting a named kills the group, then look for things to put in the AE section. If the warrior is losing aggro to the wizards then the aggro sections (for both) could use some tweaking. I might drop 2 wizzie's and do a cleric merc and wiz merc to get started, that way you're not as dependent on your cleric .ini settings.

 

[Birdman]

ok, that group should probably be able to do the dead hills missions on auto with some tweaking to the .ini's. I don't think anyone has a TDS mission macro that runs the whole mission through to completion.

I mean this in a helpful way:

I would start by getting the group up to speed and preforming consistently and then work on breaking into doing DH on auto. The DH macros will require some edits to change what you pull with and etc but first get the group running smoothly so you know what to expect.

I can kill in RoF quite fine my cleric doesn't use mq2heal and wiz don't use afnuke yet I tried DH but it just wouldn't move my toons so gotta look into that I guess