Question - Dropping agro with a rogue? (2 Viewers)

[Epiceclipse]

I would love some direction either via ka or mq2melee or something that can help me manage agro with a rogue, spec to the velious era, i tried just having hide on all the time via mq2melee but that spamming of hide doesnt seem to work, just at a general loss? any helps or direction to previous content about this subject would be great, ty.

 

[Trapper]

make sure to keep up the buff "Practiced Reflexes" or the equivalent for your level. if you take a hit it will instantly drop you to 0 agro and can be instantly re-applied.

there's also abilities like "Cozen" that lowers your hate whenever you hit it.

as for hitting Hide, Its been a long time since Ive had to but I think you have to make a button that attacks off, hide, attack on. so not sure if mq2melee does this or not.

 

[Derple]

mq2melee is pretty far outdated and kinda trash. I recommend against it.

 

[Epiceclipse]

mq2melee is pretty far outdated and kinda trash. I recommend against it.

any suggestion what direction to go in regard to trying to drop agro?

 

[naamloseeen]

You have to turn off auto attack and then hide in order to use the old-school evade to drop aggro. That's why it's not working with mq2melee.

I ended up writing a Lua script that paused my automation, turned attack off, used hide, and then unpaused the automation to get going again.

Depending on how aggressive you want to be with it, you can do it whenever hide off cooldown, but it's probably better to just check you aggro percentage.

If you need help with the script, I can dig it up again. I'm just not really playing at the moment.

 

[dal98]

If you are uding KissAssist, I do the following with my sub 60 rogue and it appears to be working.

[DPS]
DPSOn=2
DPS2=Backstab|98
DPS3=command:/keypress 8|97|Cond1

ConOn=1
Cond1=${Me.AbilityReady[Hide]}

So then in my Hotkey Bar at 8 is a EQ social that does /attack off /doability 1 /attack on (each on their own line, and in my ability bar, Hide is in spot 1.

Alternatively, in the DPS3 line, you could do if you don't want to use an EQ social macro

DPS3=command:/multiline ; /attack off;/doability 1;/attack on|97|Cond1

 

[Epiceclipse]

You have to turn off auto attack and then hide in order to use the old-school evade to drop aggro. That's why it's not working with mq2melee.

I ended up writing a Lua script that paused my automation, turned attack off, used hide, and then unpaused the automation to get going again.

Depending on how aggressive you want to be with it, you can do it whenever hide off cooldown, but it's probably better to just check you aggro percentage.

If you need help with the script, I can dig it up again. I'm just not really playing at the moment.

would be very interested in this

 

[Epiceclipse]

If you are uding KissAssist, I do the following with my sub 60 rogue and it appears to be working.

[DPS]
DPSOn=2
DPS2=Backstab|98
DPS3=command:/keypress 8|97|Cond1

ConOn=1
Cond1=${Me.AbilityReady[Hide]}

So then in my Hotkey Bar at 8 is a EQ social that does /attack off /doability 1 /attack on (each on their own line, and in my ability bar, Hide is in spot 1.

Alternatively, in the DPS3 line, you could do if you don't want to use an EQ social macro

DPS3=command:/multiline ; /attack off;/doability 1;/attack on|97|Cond1

So for this its just doing it at 97% on hide cool down i assume? Im wondering is there a noticeable drop in dps by doing this on cooldown?

 

[dal98]

So for this its just doing it at 97% on hide cool down i assume? Im wondering is there a noticeable drop in dps by doing this on cooldown?

Since I use DPSOn=2, the %health part of the DPS line just determines order...so my rogue is backstabbing and "evading" on cooldown, where I backstab 1st then evade. If you don't want to do it on cool down, you could add some part to the condition to only do it if your aggro reached a certain level...but I haven't checked any parses to see about any dps loss.

 

[reedreddington]

What dal98 has listed would be what you want. Once you get some AA's that offer aggro reduction things become a little easier.

 

[Epiceclipse]

Since I use DPSOn=2, the %health part of the DPS line just determines order...so my rogue is backstabbing and "evading" on cooldown, where I backstab 1st then evade. If you don't want to do it on cool down, you could add some part to the condition to only do it if your aggro reached a certain level...but I haven't checked any parses to see about any dps loss.

excellent thank you!

 

[dal98]

Since I use DPSOn=2, the %health part of the DPS line just determines order...so my rogue is backstabbing and "evading" on cooldown, where I backstab 1st then evade. If you don't want to do it on cool down, you could add some part to the condition to only do it if your aggro reached a certain level...but I haven't checked any parses to see about any dps loss.

If you want to use an aggro conditon, I think the following would work..so change my Cond1 to this:

Cond1=${Me.AbilityReady[Hide]} && ${Group.Member[0].PctAggro} > <whatever aggro threshold you would like to use to trigger the evade>

I haven't tested that out, but I believe that would work.